Pal transfers and duplicate frames

here in china... editing a 35mm feature.... editing in beijing.... shoot is in henan provence and the lab and transfer house is in shanghai...
the transfer house is transfering to dvcam with the following settings: timecode @ 25fps and telecine or "tk" speed @ 25fps... they are doing the adding one frame deal... and not the speeding by 4%
when i conform from 25 to 24 in fcp 5 i see a duplicate frame every 25th frame... the transfer house tells me this is normal...
trying to confirm that this should be the norm.... also hearing from other editors when doing the 4% speed up method, no dup frames are seen...
thanks,
henry

thanks for all the help...
things are a lot clearer now...
to sum up: pal telecine
tk speed @ 25fps = the 24@25 method (speeding up 4.166%)
tk speed @ 24fps = the 24&1 method (adding a field every 12 frames)
with the 24@25 method - no dup frames will occur after conforming footage
with the 24&1 method - dup frames will occur every 25th frame after conforming footage
it was also important to get the tk speed and the methods correctly... without the flex file, cinema tools asks the tk speed setting - i didn't wanted to add more problems with wrong tk setting...
it was encouraging that my test of a one minute dialogue sequence had matching in/out tc and kk numbers between original telecined dvcam and conformed fcp media file...
however, i'm thinking the best thing is to have the transfer house re-do the enitre show with the 24@25 method... i really don't like the idea of seeing dup frames especially after confirming... fortunately, the transfer house had provided me with several different 1.85 letterbox settings so they need to redo most of the footage anyway... go figure...
just had a thought - is it possible that some telecine machines can not perform the 24@25 method....
as you had mentioned before, going the route with the 24&1 method will be problematic at best...
do you know if avid supports the 24&1 method...
''they simply log the KK on the punch hole, which will relate to a timecode as logged by the TK guy's and written on the can, and then they can create pull/assembly lists from their own software.''
not sure if the neg cutters in beijing have their software
thanks again for all the info and tips - extremely helpful
henry
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