PAL with NTSC video

Hello - if I record video using NTSC standard, I can use Premirere to output to PAL standard as well. What are the drawbacks? Is the PAL "quality" going to be equivalent? I know that the frame rate between NTSC and PAL (PAL using more frames, 25p vs 24fp, for example) is different, but how's that going to affect my final product? Can anyone clarify this?
Thanks.
Roberto

If your end product is going to be a dvd for a PAL country leave it in NTSC.
NTSC will play just fine on almost any standalone PAL dvd player.
BTW PAL is better than NTSC.

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Stream: VTS011.VOB
Path: /Volumes/Sample/VIDEOTS/VTS_011.VOB
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thanks for getting back to me so quickly Jim. I really appreciate it.
I'm trying to convert a video so that I can edit it and put some titles in for a friend. When I volunteered to help I didn't realize the DVD was PAL. I've always been able to convert and edit without Compressor so unfortunately I don't know how to use it. Would Compressor correct the audio gaps? Is the program a quick learn?
In Streamclip I've been using "export to DV" and deinterlaced it.

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I am with Steve, on not knowing how one might be able to do what you want, other than converting from NTSC to PAL. However, with PrPro 1.5, I would post to the PrPro CS4 and Earlier Forum, as many folk there do both PAL and NTSC work, and might have some nifty tips for you.
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Hey guys,
I have just a quick question.
I am making a home made video. I did all the editing in FCP and made a great DVD in iDVD. I would like to do the same thing in PAL format so I can send it to my parents in Europe. My original footage is in NTSC. I did my own research and tried using compressor to change format to PAL.
I tried several different settings (PAL DV, Mpeg 2 PAL) but the outcome movie is always missing chapter markers.
I also tried to import the PAL movie (after conversion in Compressor) to FCP and added chapter markers but did not work.
Does anybody know how to convert the format from NTSC to PAL and keep the chapter markers at the same time? I would like to mantain as high quality as possible.
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Well, this seemed to work. However, being completely new to converting to PAL, I was surprised to see the "jumpiness" that goes along with the frame rate drop. Looking at it taxes the eyes as it seems like its dropping frames every so often. I realize, through more research that this is due to the 25 FPS nature of PAL plus the fact that I'm converting and not just authoring from PAL material. Having said this, is there a tried and true way of "smoothing" this jumpiness that anyone would share?
A friend of mine suggested that when I place the file into DVDSP, I choose the TOP field in the encoding tab, prior to burning the disk. In the past I have always left the FIELD menu set at Auto. He says that setting it to TOP might help a little.
He also told me that a lot of the software based converters don't do the best of jobs. Although acceptable results may come from tweaking the settings, the best way to convert NTSC to PAL (with the most pleasing results) is by using a very high end converter (not a computer). Although you have to weigh out the circumstances such as how many disks will eventually be converted compared to available budget, is it worth spending a little extra for a master that will ultimately see 1,000 copies?
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Transferring the film to video best practice and combining PAL and NTSC

Could anyone help me with the following 2 questions that I was asked in our small school video lab, I don't really have much experience with negative film and NTSC. Thankyou so much.
1. "I may be going back to the film negative to cut it, based on the FCP EDL. This means that Final Cut has to maintain perfect synch. I know that with AVID, it's more reliable to transfer the film to video at 25 fps rather than 24 fps. Do you have any idea whether this is also the case with Final Cut??"
2. "Some of my source materials is on PAL and some is on NTSC. Is that going to be a nightmare?? Will I be able to convert from one to the other when I import?? Or will I need to get the NTSC miniDV tapes transfered to PAL so that your PAL deck can read them? "
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There is a wealth of information in the Cinama Tools handbook and Help menu item.
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Merging two versions; one w/PAL Audio one w/NTSC Video

Here's an oddity...for a project was given a 2 hour video file in NTSC w/really bad sound levels. When I asked for it to be given a corrected copy, I got one with PAL video, with bad picture but great sound. Trying to get a third copy (third time is the charm) but for fun trying to see if there is a way to merge the two. First thing I tried was using the PAL Audio under the NTSC video (which of course didn't work, as the audio was longer due to frame rate, I assume). Then tried to change the length of the PAL audio in ProTools, changing it's speed by a small percent so the final length matched the NTSC video (fun experiment, but the synch wasn't at all right). Even tried converting the footage via Nattress, but no such luck.
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If it is set to 1.5meg than that is fine.
I say downoad as it has to match this when people have a asymetric service like most (A)DSL services are.
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http://www.auditmypc.com/internet-speed-test.asp
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Creating a PAL DVD from NTSC Video camcorder

Can the latest version of iMovie create a PAL DVD from NTSC Video camcorder? What are best practices and workflow to create a PAL DVD from NTSC sources.

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NTSC video into Pal

Have spent a while trying to solve this. Have just upgraded from Express to Pro. I have an edit of one of my Daughters Wedding, which was all Pal. My Brother who came over from Boston, Mass. Did some video in NTSC and there are a couple of bits, not a lot, that I would like to get into my project.
The video plays fine on my Sony HDR-HC1e and connects to the computer MacBook Pro into the back of one of my many hard drives, which always works fine with my video's.
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I'm sure that I have been through most things that can be stopping this. But hope that someone can see the problem. Then when I've got this into FCP. I hope that I can convert it to pal as seen in one of the Nattress Teaching video's.
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David Wilson

Thank you Tom and Nick, for your help. At the moment the video from the NTSC reel, Is not looking as bad as I'd feared. It is not an HD project as at the time the video was done on my TRV900e.
Even though I could select it in the pal timeline and select Nest, there were no G standard conversion in the "effect folder" to find G converter V2.0 as I'd seen done on the Nattress Tutorial site. link here http://www.nattress.com/Movies/NTSC%20DV%20to%20PAL.mov I have three pal video camera's a TRV900e and two HDR-HC1e, but do not have access at the moment to an NTSC camera.
When you say Tom, to get my brother to capture it. How would this work and what would be the method for him to get it to me from the US to UK. Also thank you for pointing out that I am now on the FCP forum site.
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I have families overseas and would like to send them family movie video. But the problem is they have NTSC format or signal system and we have PAL here in Australia. Is it possible for a video made by PAL video camera burn as NTSC to dvd using iDVD?
I have just bought my new Mac Mini Intel Core 2 Duo Leopard. I don't know anything about iDVD and I still have to use and try it.
Can any one help me.
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