Palm Treo 680's Chinese and English datas + HotSync + Mac OS X?

Hello!
I am wondering if it is safe to get an Apple MacBook Pro for a client
who uses a Palm Treo 680 with English and Chinese datas (with CJKOS --
http://www.dyts.com/en/cjkos.html ). Currently, he uses his Windows
2000 SP4 on his old Dell Optiplex PC and Hotsync (via USB) his datas.
It has MS IME and TwinBridge to read and write Chinese characters.
Is he going to have any problems if he were to buy a new MacBook Pro
with the latest Mac OS X? I read that he will need a third party
softwares (Missing Sync for Palm v6.0 --
http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_palmos.php [not free] and Palm
Encoding Setup -- http://lokiware.info/Palm-Encoding-Setup ). I was
told that using Palm Desktop is messy and complex. Also, is it safe to
mix both PC and Mac to share Palm datas? All these third parties and
fancy setups seems complex for a guy who doesn't know computers well.
Thank you in advance.
Post relates to: Treo 680 (Unlocked GSM)
Post relates to: Treo 680 (Unlocked GSM)

I have no experience with using a handheld with chinese character sets, but mac osx will natively support a range of chinese and japanese character sets. The best place to go is contact apple and check the correct sets are supported.
As for how messy etc palm desktop is, some people love it and others can't stand it. Personally I don't mind it but for people who have the same set of contacts they sync with isync and palm desktop I can see it getting very annoying even with missing sync (which I don't have). I'd recommend you find someone with a mac and actually have a go with it before you make any definite decisions you could regret.
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In my requirement in smart form, the standard text and values to be printed should appear both in english and chinese language.
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See the attached 2 OSS notes for your problem
OSSNote:960341
Symptom
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Other terms
CONVERT_OTF, SAPscript, Smart Forms
Reason and Prerequisites
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[ 278 333 500 633 633 1000 758 333 333 333 633...
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Solution
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Header Data
Release Status: Released for Customer
Released on: 30.06.2006 12:44:06
Priority: Recommendations/additional info
Category: Consulting
Primary Component: BC-CCM-PRN Print and Output Management
Secondary Components: BC-SRV-SCR SAPscript
OSS Note: 776507
Symptom
Documents printed via SAPscript or SmartForms do not print with correct special characters, e.g. ### prints instead of Japanese or Russian characters. What to do?
Other terms
SAPscript, SmartForms, printing, device types, OTF
Reason and Prerequisites
Help required to choose proper fonts in a SAPscript or SmartForm
Solution
When using SAPscript or SmartForms to print (or email or fax) a form from a business application, many factors influence the outcome of the actual text within the form. All these factors must be checked in order to ensure a correct printout:
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To solve this problem, font families in SE73 have language attribute assigned, e.g. some fonts are characterized as being suitable only for certain languages. And when a replacement has to be chosen because the original font from the form is not available in the device type, a replacement font is chosen which has the same language attributes.
If no fonts for the language in question exist in the device type, the resulting font will not be able to print the special characters and you will see "wrong" output characters in the printout.
Note on SAPscript/SmartForms Print Preview:
The OTF Print Preview available in Windows GUI (e.g. from transaction SP01) will sometimes not show the "wrong" characters which appear on the final printout. Here is the reason: since the Print Preview runs in Windows environment, it will use Windows fonts to represent the actual printer fonts. A Windows font typically has more available characters (i.e. covers more character sets) than are actually available in a printer's resident font.
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Which fonts are suitable for a given language?
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Latin-1 (Western Europe/Americas) *******
DE,EN,FR,ES,NL,SV       COURIER, HELVE, TIMES
                        (LETGOTH, LNPRINT)
Latin-2 (Central Europe) ****************
PL, CZ                  COURIER, HELVE, TIMES
ISO 8859-4 (Baltic) *********************
ET, LT, LV              COURIER, HELVE, TIMES
ISO 8859-5 (Cyrillic) *******************
BG, RU, SR, UK          COURCYR, HELVCYR, TIMECYR
ISO 8859-7 (Greek) **********************
EL                      COUR_I7, HELV_I7, TIME_I7
ISO 8859-8 (Hebrew) *********************
HE                      COURIER, HELVE, TIMES
ISO 8859-9 (Turkish) ********************
TR                      COURIER, HELVE, TIMES
Simplified Chinese **********************
ZH                      CNHEI, CNKAI, CNSONG
Japanese ********************************
JA                      JPMINCHO, DBMINCHO, DBGOTHIC
Korean **********************************
KP                      KPBATANG, KPDODUM, KPGULIM
                        KPGUNGSE, KPSAMMUL
Traditional Chinese *********************
ZF                      TWDPHEI, TWMING, TWSONG
Thai ************************************
TH                      THANGSAN, THDRAFT, THVIJIT
Arabic (Unicode systems only) ***********
AR                      ANDALE_J
Verify your output by examining the OTF data
When analysing printing problems of this type, be sure to check the OTF data which gets produced by SAPscript or SmartForms. OTF or "Output Text Format" is the intermediate page-description format generated from SAPscript or SmartForms. OTF will contain the final printer font names and character set/language identifiers which help to solve the problem. OTF will even name the form and the language of the form used to create the output.
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Goto->Display Requests->Settings
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//XHPLJ8000    0700 00000000001
IN04EALEXTEST_ZEBRA
IN05%PAGE1
OPDINA4 P 144 240 1683811906000010000100001
IN06%WINDOW2
MT0024401289
CP11000000E
FCHELVE 120 00109XSF100SF101110000067E X
UL +0000000000000
SW00067
CT00000000
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//XHPLJ8000    0700 00000000001
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IN04EALEXTEST_ZEBRA
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CP11000000E
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FCHELVE   120 00109XSF100SF101110000067E X
Header Data
Release Status: Released for Customer
Released on: 22.08.2005 09:57:20
Priority: Recommendations/additional info
Category: Customizing
Primary Component: BC-CCM-PRN Print and Output Management
Secondary Components: BC-SRV-SCR SAPscript
BC-SRV-SSF Smart Forms
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Post relates to: Treo 680 (AT&T)

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Synchronizing Palm Treo 680 Unlocked with Outlook 2003 on Windows 7

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gallinago wrote:
I downloaded v.6 onto my new Windows 7 computer. When I try to hot sync, I get a window stating that the driver is missing and I cannot find a driver on your site or on windows to download. I don't think Outlook is involved here; I don't use it.
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I'm back for a bit before I go out to walk the dog.
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Post relates to: Centro (Verizon)

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Cause the phone has been unlocked does not mean that u use the updater for the unbranded devices. The updaters is not based on the subsidation status but the build of the phone. Since you're using a ATT Treo 680, the appropriate/only update avail for your phone is the 2.11 updater found here:
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