Pan & zoom for stills

Has anyone tried CoreMelt's ImageFlow Fx V2 in FCE? There are always a lot of questions about how best to handle slideshows in FCE without tedious keyframing. This plug-in looks like it would save a ton of time doing Ken Burns effects. US$129
http://www.coremelt.com/products/v2/imageflow-fx-v2.html
I also saw a free plug-in from Noise Industries - Fx Factory Freebie called Pan & Zoom 2.
http://www.noiseindustries.com/fxfactory/panandzoom/
Anyone have any experience with either of these options for photo slideshows?

Carolyn,
I use Lyric's Pan Zoom Pro. Works from within the FC Express Video Generator and is easy to use. Cost is $50. and worth every penny to me. You can download a demo version to try out.
http://www.lyric.com/fcp-plugins/index.htm#pzp
Michael

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"Stuttering" when panning/zooming a still image...?

Hello.
I'm working on a small project which is basically a series of zooms/pans on still images. The pans/zooms are quite slow and take place over about 6-8 seconds. There's nothing too fancy going on here, but I notice that when I do a RAM preview or render out a comp, I get small "stutters" in some of them. Does anyone have any ideas why this would be happening and any suggestions on making these animations a little more "smooth". I mean, these things aren't complex at all, and overall they're quite smooth, but there's still times when I get these stutters and I can't figure out why they'd be happening? Would appreciate some advice!
Thanks,
Kristin.

There are certain speeds that sync up with frame rates so that they cause judders, jitters, stuttering or whatever you want to call it. The slower the frame rate the more obvious the problem.
If you've ever watched a western on TV or at the movies you've seen the stagecoach wheels turn backwards at various speeds. This is an example of the problem. It's actually called a stroboscopic effect. Mechanics, in the good old days when cars had carburetors and distributors, used to hook up a timing light to the #1 spark plug so that a light flashed on a timing mark on the crankshaft pulley. This light had the effect of stopping the rotation visually. That's exactly what's happening when you are moving your photograph across the frame at one of the critical speeds. Your eye is fooled and your brain can't process the movement smoothly.
There are also other cases where the sub pixel interpolation between frames causes areas of detail to flicker between frames. The latter problem can be seen by viewing your comp a frame at a time while zoomed in to say 800% and observing the edge detail. This problem can be especially nasty when you're trying to do a smooth title or credit roll. The horizontal lines that make up fine type can almost completely vanish between fields or frames if the text is moving at the wrong speed. You can test this out by creating a single pixel high horizontal line in AE and animating it from bottom to top of the frame. The only speed where you'll get a nice solid line in every frame or field is one that is an exact multiple of the frame rate. IOW, 1 frame 1 pixel of movement, 1 frame 2 pixels of movement, and so on. Move at 1 frame and 1.33 pixels of movement and the line will appear to completely disappear then return.
If you are working at 24fps progressive you'll find that the juddering caused by motion at critical speeds is much more problematic than projects at 29.97 fps. Interlacing, as was mentioned before, helps and gives you a wider range of motion, but interlacing can introduce more pronounced flickering in the detail if you are right at one of these critical speeds.
This problem extends to shooting as well. Cinematography manuals contain critical panning speed charts that list the number of degrees per second you can pan with various lens (angle of view) and shutter speed combinations. There isn't a videographer out there that's tried shooting 24P video and not ended up with an unusable pan due to these critical speeds.
The solution to successfully animating detailed images is to use the right speed (pixels per second) for your frame rate, add extra motion blur to hide the problem, or reduce the amount of detail in the image. These are the only solutions that I know of. They all limit design and timing, but what good is your design if it makes your eyes go buggy.
The best way I know if to tell if the problem is a playback issue is to use a device or program that tells you when you're dropping frames. You can use QT (by looking at the playback rate) or in FC or PPro by having the program report dropped frames. If it's a data rate issue you need more horsepower or a better codec.

Does Premier Pro CS5 have Pan & Zoom for VIDEO ?

Have been looking for a straight answer on this and all I find is a bunch of stuff about still image effects in Premiere Pro using key frames.
Just dropped a lot of coin on Master Collection CS5 and trapped for a time in Premier Pro CS4 because I now have to buy a new 64Bit platform; No matter because I'm really impressed with what Adobe is doing across the board. Lord knows I could be missing something right in front of me.
The question here is will I find a standard pan and zoom capability - FOR VIDEO NOT IMAGES - in Premiere Pro CS5 when I finally spend ALL of my disposable income or should I just stick with my $100 Sony Vegas NLE on my 32Bit platform ;-)
On a related note, how can you have a VIDEO editor of consequence without pan and zoom ? Am I the only one who find this curious ? Is this issue like the crazy aunt in the attic that no-one wants to talk about ?

On a related note, how can you have a VIDEO editor of consequence without pan and zoom ? Am I the only one who find this curious ? Is this issue like the crazy aunt in the attic that no-one wants to talk about ?
Look before you leap in with an ill informed opion.
A little more hands on time and maybe breaking out the help or manual files would have lead you to the discovery of what Colin pointed out.
You will discover a world of power and tricks within the CS5 applications. Not all are immediately evident but they become fundamental and instinctive after a bit of time. Many of us can still be shown a trick or two after many years with the apps. Colin B. is a source of many of them.

Eliminate zoom for still photos

I am making a movie with stills and music. Each photo zooms in. Can I stop the zoom?

Hi
YES - Ken-Burns Effect can be most annoying. I also wished that I was asked to turn it on when needed - Not being forced to turn it off - ALWAYS - as I never use it. (A 100% irritation factor)
• Select all photo clips in Project.
• Click on the small double L-shaped black symbol in one of them
then select Adjust (Anpassa) - followed by Done (Klar)
Usually this takes effect on all selected Photos.
Yours Bengt W

How to pan and zoom multiple stills in a grid

Hello,
happy new year to the community!
I recently did a lot of research in this forum and for the most problems in my project i could find adequate solutions in PrE 11 which I treated myself to purchase at Xmas
But there's still something left: I'd like to align several rectangular cells in a grid, each containing a still image that is animated by some pan and zoom.
I cannot achieve it via the pan and zoom tool since it is restricted to the frame ratio and displays full screen. Then I tried to use key framing for the pan and zoom and cropping the photos. But the crop was scaled together with the photos and didn't remain fix. My last hope was to use an alpha mask which would have the advantage that i could create a fixed grid. But the mask was affected by the animation as well...
I suspect, after reading the post http://forums.adobe.com/thread/996581, that this is not possible without creating intermediate video files for all photos. So my question is if there's still some way to achieve the task or if it can be confirmed that the intermediate videos are the only way.
Regards,
phylome

The only way I know to do this in Premiere Elements is to create your pan & zoom for each image and then output each using Publish & Share/Computer/AVI with the DV preset.
Once you've created all of them, put each on its own separate video track, stacked on above the other, sizing and positioning each to fit in your grid.

Ease in/Ease out is clunky for pan/zooms

I'm using FCP 5 with 10.5.6. When panning and zooming around in a still image (photo), I just can't get an easy landing or stop at the end of the motion, no matter how I adjust the ease in/ease out speed. After choosing Ease in/ Ease out on a keyframe, I shove the little blue speed-control bead toward or away from the keyframe along the motion path, but that distance is limited, and I see very little difference in the result. The motion still stops with a perceptible jerk or clunk.
I have used applications like Photo-to-Movie that have great control on the speed of pans and zooms, and the motion of a pan or zoom starts or stops very gently and almost imperceptibly. Photo-to-Movie costs only $25, so I can't see why an expensive professional program like Final Cut can't do the same thing. I can do smooth pan/zooms in PTM, export the result as a DV clip, and then drop the clip into Final Cut, but I can't adjust the motion within FCP. And working in an outside application to import the results is a real slow-down.
Assuming that the Ease in/Ease out control is all the control you have for smoothing pan/zooms in FCP, and it's inadequate, is there any plug-in for FCP 5 (free or at least inexpensive) that will produce gentle starts and stops?
Tom

Thanks for all the comments everyone, and thank you also Tom Wolsky for your great tutorial books and DVDs that have helped me to gain some competence with Final Cut. I recommend them highly to anyone learning the program.
To shed some light on the purpose of my original post, the project I'm working on contains both video footage and still images. In this video I'm demonstrating how to paint pictures, while using still images of historic paintings as examples of how the old-time painters did things, compared to what I'm doing now.
So in this video I alternate from live demonstrations of painting, to still images of old paintings, slowly panning and zooming around the old paintings and stopping to analyze portions of them.
I find that there is something comfortable and soothing about good pan/zooms as compared to the unsettling feelings and irritation caused by watching jerky starts and stops, with unnatural acceleration and deceleration between.
You have all made it clear to me (thanks again) that it is a matter of the mathematics involved in Final Cut's treatment of pan/zooms that makes it hard to get smooth movements of that type in FC. I still think it's odd that I can get wonderful pan/zooms from a cheapie little program like Photo-to-Movie but not a pro application like Final Cut, but at least PTM can get the job done for me, although it is a slowdown to have to use it. I first have to create the pan/zooms on still images in PTM and then export them as DV clips to drop into Final Cut. If a pan/zoom then needs adjustment, I have to throw the clip away, go back to PTM and modify the movement, and then export a fresh clip. Very slow.
By the way, I visited the Photo to Movie website, which I haven't done for a long time, and I see that the price of the program has now doubled to $50. The authors have apparently gotten big ideas and have added transitions, titles, and other kinds of editing besides just movement. On their demo webpage <http://tinyurl.com/yfej3j4> you can see sample pans and zooms created by the program. The third sample movie down from the top, with the zebras, shows some of the types of motion I'm after, such as the scene that zooms gently in on the turtle's head or the dog near the end of that movie. Note how smooth the starts/stops are.
In my own YouTube movie <http://tinyurl.com/yh8hl38>, which I created in Final Cut in 2008, the paintings that leap out at you with music at the beginning were also created in Photo to Movie and dropped into Final Cut. In that case the motion is almost violent, and no doubt I could have done it just as easily in Final Cut, but at that time I was new to keyframing in Final Cut and had gotten so accustomed to the ease of doing such things in PTM that I used it for that too. A few minutes further along in that video you can see the kind of gentle pan/zooming by PTM that I'm trying to create again now in a new video. My failed attempts to do it in Final Cut a couple days ago are what led me to ask for help here.
Maybe if I can gain a better grasp of Motion 2 I could do better with it than my first attempt yesterday, and I could also also round-trip between Motion and Final Cut to quickly adjust the movements, but I just don't know the program well enough yet to do that. I'll search for tutorials and demo movies on Motion. Someone above has also said that Motion 2 is inferior to version 3 in this respect, and I don't have 3, so I guess I'm stuck with Photo to Movie for the present to get smooth pan/zooms.
Thanks again everyone for all the enlightenment on this subject.
Tom B.

Pan & Zoom Not Working in PP4

Using PP CS4 with 8 years experience with Premiere, am having trouble with this effect. Effect Controls > Motion > Position & Scale controls are all there but the resizing for keyframes is not having any visible effect in either Source or Program monitors. The clip remains exactly as it was imported at full, uncropped view. Please help. Thx

Just for clarification, are you using the Pan & Zoom for a SlideShow in Encore, or are you using the Fixed Effects>Motion>Scale & Motion>Position in PrPro?
If the latter, then I would post to the PrPro CS4 and Earlier Forum.
In the meantime, and in case you ARE encountering this issue in PrPro, let's go over the steps to do Pans & Zooms in the Effects Control Panel.
First, in your Timeline, Select your Still Image (or Video Clip).
If not in focus, get Effects Control Panel open and in front in its Pane.
Place the CTI (Current Time Indicator) /Playhead at the first Frame of that Still/Clip.
Look at the Fixed Effects list in Effects Control Panel, and for Motion, twirl that Open, to reveal both Scale and Position. Twirl those Open, to reveal their sliders.
For a Zoom, click the little Stopwatch icon next to it, to toggle Keyframe animation ON, and place a Keyframe on that First Frame.
At this point, that Keyframe will have a value of 100%, or original size. If one needs to adjust that, say for a Zoom Out to full Scale, but needs to start Zoomed In, set it to where you wish to start.
Move to the time (on the Timeline, or on the mini-timeline in Effects Control Panel - the CTS's are linked), where you want the Zoom Out to end, and click the New Keyframe button, the filled circle in the ◄●► icon. A new Keyframe is added at that spot. Now, adjust the Scale to what is desired there.
One can adjust the Interpolation between those Keyframes, if desired, but that is something that one will be better off, if they read the full section on Keyframe Interpolation in the Help Files.
If one wishes to add a Pan, then the same process is repeated, but for the Fixed Effect>Motion>Position.
Good luck, and hope that helps,
Hunt

Pan & zoom overlay will not pan until after user has zoomed in or out

I've been trying to lay out a large table of data so that when you first see the page, it's zoomed right out. It's just an imported png image, with its own frame defining over what area of the screen it should be visible, and then set to pan & zoom mode using the overlay creator).
In this initial state, the width of the image matches that of the frame; only the bottom part of the image is hidden by being outside the frame.
So it needs to be able to pan at any time regardless of the zoom level, so that a user can see all the content. But what's happening is that it refuses to respond to any swipe (i.e. pan) gestures until you have first zoomed in or out to some extent. Once you've done that the panning works perfectly in all directions.
I've experimented with different aspect ratios & relative sizes of the content & the frame, but the same thing always happens, so this seems to be deliberate. Does anyone know of any workarounds, or any options in the viewer builder (which we don't yet have) that might fix this?

I think this has to do with the fact that you have to "activate" the interactive overlay with a single tap. After that you can pinch and zoom. Before that, even a swipe is not possible.
That is different for the action "Pan only", wich is automatically activated.
I hope this will get fixed in the future. We need the autoplay option even for Pan & Zoom for instant access to that interactive overlay.
—Johannes

How do I create motion for still photos/pictures. I'd like to pan/scan & zoom. Please help!

How do I create motion for still photos/pictures. I'd like to pan/scan & zoom. Please help!

You kind of answered your own question..
Check out Motion in the FX Control Window and learn how keyframing works..

What's the best webcam for Mac with tilt/pan/zoom?

I am trying to find a good quality webcam to use for videoconferencing with my Mac (MacBook Air actually). The camera is to be positioned on the 60-inch screen on the wall in our boardroom so the built-in Facetime camera doesn't do the job. It needs to have tilt/pan/zoom (in software). When I started on this search I had no idea such a thing was going to be so hard to find. There is no shortage of such products for Windows but I can't find a single one for the Mac.
There are a lot of webcams that claim to support Mac but on closer investigation not a single one of them (that I've found so far anyhow) provides any conrol features like tilt/pan/zoom - nor even brightness and contrast control for that matter. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places because it's hard to believe the Mac world really is lacking such products. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Would be much appreciated.

You're most welcome, Julie.
dreamdoc wrote: ... I don't have a cam corder, but that's a great solution ...
If you are still shopping, you might be able to find a compatible used camcorder at a local store that sells used cameras or electronics. One with a failed tape mechanism that otherwise works would likely be very low priced. The same store may also have compact tripods.
Because your MBA is so portable, it is easy to take with you so you can test any camcorder before you buy to be certain it meets your needs.
dreamdoc wrote:... I also appreciate the reminder to close out my inquiry...
Per the Respond to answers tutorial page, you decide when to mark an answer that "solves your question."
I certainly did not intend any reminder. As a user like you, I have not authority to remind or otherwise instruct you about your participation in Discussions. As explained in ¶ 1.11 of Apple Support Communities - Terms of Use, the Apple Hosts would be the ones who would address any concerns with you if necessary.
Have fun shopping!
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Please tell me you can use pan/zoom tool for photo slideshow with photos not cropped to screen?

I'm new to Mac and Premiere Elements (former PC/Sony Vegas Movie user), and am trying to do a Ken Burns type photo slideshow wherein my photos are left in their normal cropped state. Right now it seems all photos get cropped to fill the screen size (i.e. 16:9). I saw where you could uncheck the scale photo size to media (or something to that effect) under the general setting in preferences, but using the pan/zool tool still shows photos cropped to fill screen. I realize conflicting aspect ratio will result in black bars top/bottom or left/right of frame, and that's ok/what I want. I'm hoping this is doable? Thanks, Jim

jimdrought
The primary question that I have is what is the end product...DVD-VIDEO Standard on DVD disc, DVD-VIDEO Widescreen on DVD disc or other?
Let us assume for now DVD-VIDEO Widescreen on DVD disc. The next question that falls into line is the one relating to what you describe as an assortment of photos going into this project...what are the pixel dimensions (what range of...) and aspect ratio. For aspect ratio, are we talking 4:3 or 16:9. How many of these photos are landscape oriented or how many portrait oriented.
In generalities at this point, I would ask you to look at:
a. bringing your photos appropriately sized into a Premiere Elements project with an appropriate project preset.
b. leaving Edit Menu/Preferences/General with its Default Scale to Frame Size with a check mark.
c. in the workspace, scaling the photos to just fill the space in the Edit Mode Monitor
d. then one by one pan and zoom a photo with the Pan and Zoom Tool.
If you use this Tool, you should get good results. One consideration is that the process results in the Timeline photo having a much larger duration AFTER than BEFORE. If you see any pros in using this tool for your purposes, then you might want to explore the technique that I described for applying a pan and zoom effect from this Tool to more than one photo at a time.
http://www.atr935.blogspot.com/2013/05/pe11-pan-zoom-tool-more-than-one-photo.html
You also might want to explore fxEffects/Presets for horizontal and vertical pans or zoom. The catch in the presets is that you can apply a pan OR zoom, not a pan AND zoom to each photo.
Keyframing of Scale (for Zoom) and Position (for Pan) should be explored under Applied Effects/Applied Effects Palette/Motion Panel expanded/Scale and Position properties.
With more details from you, we could go step by step in any of the above.
We will be watching for your progress.
Thanks.
ATR

How do you batch edit still photos with panning/zooming effect in FCP X?

Hi,
I was making a slideshow with a lot of photos. I had to manually add two keyframes in each photo (one in the beginning and one at the end), and then manually adjusted the scale/position for each photo so they pan/zoom during the slideshow.
Is it possible to accomplish the samething with multiple photos in a batch? It would sure save a lot of time. Thanks.
Regards,
Nelson

Build the effect that you want on one photo.
Right click that photo on the Timeline and choose Copy.
Select the other photos that you want to have the same effect.
Right click one of them and choose Paste Attributes.
In the Attributes dialog, place a check mark next to those you want. In the case of the effect described in your post, that would be Motion Attributes. If you had also included Filter effects such as color correction, you would check those too.

Does Premiere Elements use a "rate curve" for pan/zoom?

Does Premiere Elements pan/zoom feature have a sort of accelerate/decelerate option, either user-selectable, or built in to the pan/zooms?
By accelerate/decelerate, I mean the pan/zoom will start very slowly, then over a period of just a second or two, accelerate to whatever constant speed it needs to move the user-defined distance in the user-defined time, and then at the end of the pan/zoom, decelerate over the last second or two, to a stop.
Makes the pan/zoom seem much more "human/organic"...as opposed to, "robot-like" if the pan/zoom does not gently accelerate/decelerate at the start and end.
Thanks...
Bill

Bill NM Aerial Photos
If you are referring to Bezier Curves and interpolation methods, yes with regard to keyframing the Motion Scale property (for Zoom) and the Motion Position property (for Pan). The Pan and Zoom Tool keyframes can also be adjusted. Keyframing of some other properties can also be adjusted.
From Premiere Elements 13/13.1 on Windows 7 or 8.1 64 bit.
Below is an example from keyframing of the Crop property.
What version of Premiere Elements do you presently have and on what computer operating system is it running? If you do not already
have Premiere Elements 13/13.1, please evaluate the tryout before purchase to determine the compatibility of the program with your
computer environment and video editing goals.
Please let me know if I have targeted your question. Any questions or need clarification, please do not hesitate to ask.
Thank you.
ATR

Which software for panning & zooming on artwork?

I need to insert some graphics of artwork into a project, and need to pan & zoom. I've tried MovingPicture from Stage Tools but I find I can't achieve a constant panning speed after a ramp, and I also get jaggy verticals. I believe After Effects will do the job, but I don't have it. Is Motion the software I should be using? Or is there another solution? I presently have FC Studio installed.
Many thanks
John
G4 Quicksilver 867, G4 Powerbook 1.67 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

I have just bought the Lyric Media Pan & Zoom software and it is FANTASTIC. ( ....as far as a plug-in goes).
The motion tool in FCP is horrendous for ease in / out, & adds a hiccup to the motion if you convert "center" to ease in / out. This plug-in ($49) allows for huge soft splines (beziers) and real nice movement to the footage or photo.
No idea how this compares to AE, but it gets you out of the woods fast!
Check it out: http://www.lyric.com/fcp-plugins/panzoompro/pzp.htm
Mas OSX G5 dual 2.3 / 4.5 gb ram Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Technique(s) for keeping fast pans/zooms smooth?

I'm taking some simple HD (Sony HDR-SR11) footage pans and zooms that I filmed at a slow speed. By that I just mean I move the camera slowly during the pan and zoomed slowly. It's a promo spot so it's a pan of a room and a zoom out of a sign/building. The original footage looks great! Now I want to speed both up for a quick short fast pan and zoom and render the original 1920x1080 footage for use on the web. My timeline sequence is set for AVCHD 720p. When I just speed up the duration (about 400% to get the speed I want) I end up with footage that loses the quality look, kind of blurry in spots as if the resolution has been degraded and even some artifacts show up. Can anyone point me to a technique that will speed up my pans/zooms but keep them smooth looking without losing any quality or resolution in either PP or AE?
thanks,
Dave

I will say it is disappointing that I can take 1920X1080 footage down to 1280X720 and lose quality.
Well, before you re-shoot, let's talk about that. Is it possible that you're unhappy with the quality, not as a result of the speed change, but as a result of resizing the video? Export a short segment of your timeline at normal speed, but with the reduction in frame size. How's the quality look?
If it's too soft, then use Maximum Render Quality when you export. The easiest way is to set it in the Sequence settings. With MRQ, how does the normal speed video look?
If the normal speed + resized video looks good without MRQ, however, then it means you're unhappy with the speed change. That's when you'll need to re-shoot.
-Jeff

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