Pan & Zoom with Clip

I have great success with the Premiere Elements 10 pan & zoom feature in the preview mode. But when I hit 'done' it invariably crashes. I'm obviously doing something wrong. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks.

Not sure I got Gspot to do a complete analysis.
System
Gateway NV78
Core 2 duo T6600 2.2 gHz
4 GB RAM
64-bit
Win 7 Home Premium SP 1
Hitachi 500 GB ATA - 208 GB free
Mobile Intel R4 Express chipset - 64 Mb dedicated 1631 Mb shared
Intel Hi Def Audio HDMI
Assets
- From Canon HfG10
- Shot at 1440 x 1080 60i
- Imported from SD card
- Presets: Tried all HDV 1080i and DV NTSC editing modes
Workflow
- Project is 2:06:09 in length
- Five clips (four split from one clip)
- Problem occurs wherever attempted in workflow
Thanks again for your assistance.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0kt60VAyb8&feature=related
This is sort of helpful, but despite over thre hours work, I cannot get my clip to do what I want.
I need Video Tutorials, not text instruction. i'm dyslexic and simply see gobbldeegupe when looking at written instructions.
Thanks, everyone.
This is the clip in question...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6LWzo5n_sg
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We have a client that wants to do an animatic (motion graphic add)
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I looked it the motion tap and the distort aspect ratio in the motion tab was zero.
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flattened the psd, changed the image size to 1024x576.
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Is FCP able to handle these graphics easily.
When I import them and insert them into the new seq I can set that seq to Unlimited RT low playback to see the move easily.
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Sorry back again,
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If designing in Photoshop for Final Cut Pro
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If he gives me a photo that's 300dpi I'm going to have a problem with knowing exactly what size the image will be in photoshop regarding rescaling etc.
When he gives me the graphics, I'll check the dimetions in photoshop.
I should check if it's a rectangular or suare pixel doc first correct?
My thinking is that it'll be square pixel coming from a digital camera, and we'll prob work in 4:3 (i've just been given video rushes to combine with the edit at 4:3 res)
Regarding the graphics,
Should I work in a high res and keep the pixel dimentions as high as I need up to 4000pix squared or should I keep it at 720x576 and keep the res high?
FCP works better with images at 720x576 they don't need rendering regardless of the dpi?? ANd also when you step into the PSD nest it gives you an option of Unlimited RT, it even has a dark green line in Safe RT.
Whereas when I work in images over 720x576, (say double that at 1440x1152) the PSD seq FCP creates when importing the multi-layered graphic has a red render line and won't let me work in Unlimited RT or Safe RT, it just gives the option of: 'use playback settings' or 'full quality'.
would it be good to create a photoshop template, so that I can drop the graphics I'm given into that, then manipulate it accordingly??
All advice welcome!!
Sorry finding if still finding it slightly confusing!
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d

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Ok yep you are great, so I'm sorry I'm attempting to do it on video clips, not stills.
I was aware that the last versions of PE had similar Pan and Zoom workspaces, that's why I knew or thought I knew that my situation could be solved.
The first link that you recommend is exactly where I got the third paragraph of my question, so I had already reviewed that and to me when you read the directive it still makes it sound like you can adjust the focus frame markers....? (very confusing)
The second link you sent might have helped me realize that the tool doesn't work the same way for Stills and it does for Video clips; (I really think like on the Adobe web site this difference should be markedly more clear to help with confusion; but in their defense maybe it's me being slow to understand)
I was able to figure out some of the difference through perseverance last night, and did figure out (like your last link explains) that you can move the CTI and then add a new focus frame...BUT I still have my original question...how can you adjust the pan duration on a video clip after it's been made and you have left the pan and zoom tool like if you want to edit that timing... I think the answer is that you can't lol, I think it has to be deleted or a new focus frame added and the other deleted to adjust the timing...am I correct?
This quote is taken from the Adobe web site one of the links you shared
You can work with focus frames in videos the same way that you work with focus frames for images. However, only those options that are relevant to movie clips appear in the pan and zoom tool.
I think maybe the last sentence is attempting to explain that but it's just so ambiguous...
Just trying to figure it out! I do appreciate your help!

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