Panasonic AVC Intra codec and FCP 2

Does anyone know if the latest version of FCP supports the new AVC Intra codec found on the higher-end Panasonic P2 HD cameras? We're a production house, and are considering investing in the Panasonic AJ-HPX3000 P2 HD camera, which is starting to ship this month. I know FCP Studio 2 supports the ProRes 422 codec; I'm wondering if we would have to convert the footage from the HPX3000 to ProRes 422 so it could be edited in FCP, and how long that process would take. Thanks!

If the camera does component or sdi out, you can use a Kona3 or io hd to convert to ProRes422 during real time playback.
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Does FCP support the new Panasonic AVC Intra codec?

Does FCP support the new Panasonic AVC Intra codec?
NOT AVCHD but AVC Intra?
Will it require more rendering or converting before I can use it?
I am looking at buying the HPX-2000 with the new AVC Intra board, recording to P2. AVC Intra is H.264 codec.

I don't think this is supported yet.. but the camera's ability to shoot DVCPROHD certainly is.
Jerry
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Avid Supports Panasonic AVC-Intra Codec

New editing solutions from Avid offer import and native editing support for Panasonic's AVC-Intra codec.
C'mooooooon Adobe CS4! Daddy needs a new camera...

If the camera does component or sdi out, you can use a Kona3 or io hd to convert to ProRes422 during real time playback.
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Does Premiere suport the Panasonic AVC-Intra codec?

I'm thinking about renting a HPX-2000 or the new Varicam 2700 because I want to play with 10bit 4:2:2 native files for an upcoming music video with lots of greenscreen and color correction.
Anyone have any experience with it? We're talking about going RED for it but I need other options for the bid.

Doesn't appear to right now. That was one of the bullet points in the literature pre-release, but it looks like it was canned for the time being. I would imagine we'll see it at some point in CS4--maybe the next point update?--but I wouldn't bet on that horse.
Panasonic does have a transcode module for FCP, that'll turn AVC-I into ProRes422. You could then install the ProRes422 decoder for Windows (I guess I'm assuming you're on Windows) and edit those in PPro--the decoder actually works pretty well, in my limited testing. Granted, it's not a native solution, but a solution, nonetheless. RED and the beta importer might be the better option.
EDIT: Another option would be to download and install the demo of Grass Valley Edius, which natively supports AVC-Intra. You could transcode to whatever you wanted, then--like Avid DNxHD, for example. Again, not native--but what can you do? :)

Premier 4.1 Update and AVC-Intra codec

I am very interested in when Adobe is going to release support for Panasonic's professional codec, AVC-Intra 100. We love Premier but use the AVC-Intra codec now almost exclusively (along with RED). We understood from NAB that Premier was working natively with AVC-Intra codec and that it was likely going to be included in the big 4.1 update.
Any news Adobe gurus? This would be a huge help to many studios.
Cheers.

Let me start by saying that I don't have any more info then most on this site, but I disagree with you, Eddie.
If I had to bet, I'd say we see AVC-Intra in another update before the years out. I think we're a long way from CS5 (maybe NAB 2010 timeframe?), and for the presets to be there now tells me that they are working on it...they were showing it at NAB so they can't be that far off.
CS3 had quite a few updates, and CS4 has only had 2 so far. I think it's within the realm of possibility that we could see another update or two...hopefully one that fixes the program monitor freeze issue.
And as for Adobe announcing patches, they very rarely seem to do that - it seems like we hear about them no to long before they come out.
Again, you could be completely right. Who knows. But I tend to think it'll be soon...but not soon enough for many of us waiting for it.

AVC INTRA CODEC is not working

Im using a dual 2.5 GHz Power PC G5 8GB ram OSX 10.4.11 and FCP studio 2 w/all the latest
updates.
I get a WARNING " AVC-intra codec is unsuported on PPC" when I try to log and transfer
a avc 100 file from my 32GB P2 card .
I downloaded the codec from panasonic but its not working.
I read that it need to have an intel based mac, is this true?

*I read that it need to have an intel based mac, is this true?*
Application-Specific Requirements
Final Cut Pro
Capturing HD resolution video using the ProRes 422 format requires a Mac Pro with an Intel Xeon processor or a G5 Quad computer and a qualified third-party capture card.
*AVCHD support is only available on Intel based Macs.*
http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/specs.html

AVC Intra support and suggestions

We are in the market for a new camera, and we want to stay panasonic to match our existing library, mostly footage shot on an HDX900. We are debating on the HPX2000 or another HDX900. We understand they are very comparable in quality with an slight(?) edge going to 2000 with the AVC Intra codec.
The question comes down to FCP. I know it supports AVC-I to an extent in that must be transcoded to ProRes. I read that the transcode takes about 2 x realtime. We have a Mac Pro 2.66 dual core with 6 GB Ram writing out to a SATA RAID tower, does that still seem accurate?
I don't know if FCP has any plans to run AVC-I natively anytime soon. So would anyone with any AVC-I experience please let me know if it the transcode is worth my time?
Thanks.

So would anyone with any AVC-I experience please let me know if it the transcode is worth my time?
Yeah...definately worth your time. The 2000 and AVCintra...vs the 2000 and DVCPRO HD is night and day. 10 bit codec vs 8-bit DVCPRO HD...your colorist will LOVE you. And you will see the difference.
And this is what assistants are for...paid less to do all of the grunt work.
Shane

AVC Intra Codec QT not playing

Hi, I just received footage in QT from a third party that I can't seem to play, neither on FCP or QT. The footage is in AVC Intra 100M Codec, I've downloaded the Panasonic P2 AVC Intra Codec, but still....no luck. Any ideas? Should I use compressor? I'm running FCP 6....
Thanks.
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You need at least FCP 7 to see the AVCIntra QT codec. Otherwise, you need the people to convert it to ProRes.
Sock

Unable to install AVC-Intra codec

I'm trying to play a file created on a Panasonic P2 camera using the new AVC-Intra codec. I downloaded Pro Apps Quicktime Codec from Apple: http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1396. Specs say it requires OS X 10.5.6 or later and QT 7.6 or later.
I have a Mac running OSX 10.5.8 and QT 7.7 (1680.25). It is an old PowerPC G5, but everything about the system meets the published specs I've seen for running this codec. I haven't seen anywhere that an Intel Mac is required, which is the only "gotcha" I am able to imagine at this point.
ProAppsQTCodec will not install by clicking on the .pkg file, but in researching on the net, I saw that this was a common complaint and that using the program "Pacifist" to install was recommended. Installing the codecs via Pacifist did work, but the AVC-Intra .mov files in Quicktime Player play only audio with a black screen.
I went to the Genius Bar yesterday and the Tech tried several (to me) exotic methods of dealing with the problem, including a Network boot and manually re-installing the codecs. The result was the same, audio-only playback.
The files are good; they play back correctly on a more current Intel Mac system in both Final Cut Pro 7 and in Quicktime.
For what it's worth, I had originally intended to use these files on my 4-year old Intel Mac, but neither Final Cut Pro (version 6.0.6), the operating system (OSX 10.4.11) or Quicktime (7.6.4) which have served me well in every situation other than dealing with these P2 files, seem to be upgradeable at this point. :-(
I'm at a loss how to proceed on this and would appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks,
--Dave

The calibrated{Q} AVC-Intra Decode allowed me to view the files in Quicktime, but as far as I was able to determine, not to use them in Final Cut Pro 6. We spent a morning at the 'Genius Bar' puzzling through things, but although the machine, the OS and the QT version all met the published spec for this software, and it looks like it *might* have worked, it would have involved some work-arounds. I finally decided to try to update the Intel machine instead.I was not able to do it on my own, but they were able to beat it into submission at the bar. After several hours on each of two additional days at the Apple Store, they were able to update the OS on my Intel Mac enough to allow me to install Panasonic's AVC-Intra codec. Apple's own ProAppsQTCodecs is supposed to allow these P2 files to play on this machine, but it didn't. I'm currently in the process of re-Log&Transfer-ing everything into FCP6 successfully.

FCP 7 is supposed to work with AVC Intra 50 and 100.... BUT

Ok this one is very strange. You can log AVC Intra 100 (from a Panasonic P2 HD cam) in its native AVC Intra 100 format.... but here comes the great puzzle....
There is no Setting in the Sequence Settings drop down menu to match that??????? Did Apple forget to put that specifik codec there or what?
So what you get is a Sequence that has to be ProRes but your footage is AVC Intra...
OK you lost me on this one....

Yes Codec wise the MXF files are an I-frame H264 MPEG 4 compression - but that is not what I uppose against.
Its Apple banging the big drum saying, that now FCP 7 works naitivly with AVC Intra both 50 and 100.
AND.... thats NOT true. Anyhow... its not logical that you dont have a Apple AVCIntra codec choise in your sequence settings.
YES I know to set the Sequence settings for ProRes... But that I have done for 2 years now and had to wait for FCP to transcode the AVCIntra MXF files to ProRES....
Now I have to wait for my sequence to render all the time, and I dont think thats a great trade off - more like a pain in the but

Apple avc-intra codec?

Hey there, I just got some quicktime .movs that will not open on my mac. The codec is Apple AVC-Intra. Final Cut wont recognize it, nor does quicktime. I'm running FCP 6.06 and Quicktime 10 on Snow Leopard. I've found a codec but only for older versions of FCP. I believe the footage was shot on an HVX300.
Usually when I get this codec, i think its from P2 cards, which log n transfer works with. But these are in quicktime movie form, like they have been transcoded already.

Sorry, that codec is only available with FCP 7. You will have to get the client to injest the footage as ProRes, or get the originals to you so that you can do the same.
I find it odd for people to choose that codec anyway, as FCP doesn't have sequence settings for that one...not even in FCP 7.
shane

AVC Intra Codec Problem

Has anyone found an link to download AVC Intra from Panasonic. Apple says update supports it but need to obtain codec from Panasonic and I can't find it anywhere. Any help pointing me to the correct download site would be very much apreciated.

See here:
http://panasonic.sixbullets.net/
https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/cs/csregistp2m/ep2main/avcidle.htm
https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/pro-av/support/desk/e/index.htm
G.

AVC intra 100 in FCP

Tried to "log and transfer" a Panasonic HPX3000 P2/AVC-Intra 100/ 1080x1920 60i/24P file but Final Cut Studio 2(6.0) didn't read it What did I d wrong?? have the latest Macbook Pro intel computer, I have uploaded the Panasonic AVCintra Decoder in my mac succesfully.
I have i my Audio / Video setting chosen : Apple ProRes 422 (HQ) 1920x1080 24P 48 Hz.
What am I missing??
Anybody know?
I would appreciate it..
Theo Van de Sande

Do you have have FCP 6.0.2? The latest upgrade?
How about FX Factory by Noise Industries? Do you have that? I ran into an import issue with P2 DVCPRO HD and a version of those plugins. They have been updated to fix that issue.
Shane

Audio-Problem with Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2014 by using long Clips in AVC-Intra Codec (4Gb Border)

Hello
We own a Panasonic camera (AJ-PX5000G) and we film in 1080p50 with the AVC-Intra100 Codec. When importing longer clips in Premiere Pro, the video is fully loaded, but the waveform of the sound ends at the Time Code 00:02:28:35.
Sometimes the sound could be played after this Timecode but otherwise there is no audio. Even if we use the same clip several times we see that it works sometimes and sometimes not. It looks random.
We also tried to import the Clips with Adobe Prelude directly from the P2-Card but there are the same problems.
The Clips in 1080p50 AVC-Intra100 have a bitrate of 227Mbps. After 2 Minutes and 28 Seconds 4Gb are written on the P2-Card and the Camera starts a new picture file and 4 sound files..
It looks like Adobe Premiere Pro has problems with the correct relation of the files that all get together to one clip.
Is there anybody who can confirm this problem? Can anybody help me with this Premiere Problem?
Dennis
(Workstation: Dell Precision T3600, Intel Xeon E5-1620 @ 3.60 GHz, 16 GB RAM, Windows 7 Professional 64-bit, Service Pack 1, Premiere Pro CC 2014.1 (Build 8.1.0)   )
Mediainfo of the P2-Cards:
General
Complete name                            : \CONTENTS\VIDEO\0068T7.MXF
Format                                   : MXF
Format profile                           : OP-Atom
Format settings                          : Closed / Complete
File size                                : 3.92 GiB
Duration                                 : 2mn 28s
Overall bit rate                         : 227 Mbps
Encoded date                             : 2014-10-15 13:33:41.000
Writing application                      : Panasonic P2 2.0
Writing library                          : Panasonic P2 2.0
Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High 4:2:[email protected]
Format settings, CABAC                   : No
Format settings, GOP                     : N=1
Format settings, wrapping mode           : Clip
Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102106002-0401020201323104
Duration                                 : 2mn 28s
Bit rate                                 : 227 Mbps
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 50.000 fps
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:2
Bit depth                                : 10 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 2.193
Stream size                              : 3.92 GiB (100%)
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Mediainfo Audio-Datei P2-Card:
General
Complete name                            : \CONTENTS\AUDIO\0068T700.MXF
Format                                   : MXF
Format profile                           : OP-Atom
Format settings                          : Closed / Complete
File size                                : 13.6 MiB
Duration                                 : 2mn 28s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Constant
Overall bit rate                         : 770 Kbps
Encoded date                             : 2014-10-15 13:33:41.000
Writing application                      : Panasonic P2 2.0
Writing library                          : Panasonic P2 2.0
Audio
ID                                       : 3
Format                                   : PCM
Format settings, Endianness              : Little
Format settings, wrapping mode           : Clip (AES)
Codec ID                                 : 0D01030102060400
Duration                                 : 2mn 28s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 768 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 13.6 MiB (100%)

Hi,
we have the same problem!
It is not possible to play audio with the AVC-Intra100 Codec fluently.
Can anybody help?
Thanks,
Anja

Panasonic P2 frame rates and FCP

I just got 2 new hvx200's and i'm trying out the frame rate options. Here's what i've tried.
Shot in 480/60i, 480/30, 480/24P, and 480/24PA
I did the "easy setup" and my sequence says the Frame rate is 24. I had to render every clip. Then i changed to standard 30 fps. Every clip is fine and needs no rendering.
I checked all of my clips and they all say that the frame rate is 29.97.
How do i fix this problem?
I should be able to shoot 24, have the timeline 24 and see 24.
Dual 2.5 GHz PowerPC G5 Mac OS X (10.4.3) 4 GB DDR SDRAM

Hmmmm...
Well, since I never had to deal with DV footage from that camera, from tape for P2, I don't know what to say. For DVCPRO HD there is a 24PN setting....I am not sure what the DV equivalent is or how it works.
YOu have this nice HD camera and P2 cards, why limit yourself to 480?
Shane

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