Panasonic HVX 200 and Importing

I have recently baught a new Imac 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 1 GB ram. When i try to import P2 cards using my camera into the computer the P2 wont display on the desktop. I also have an older version laptop thats running the new FCP 6.0.2. When using that computer it works fine. After i connect my camera and press the button on the camera the p2 cards display on the desktop and i have no problem importing. On the new Mac it wont even show on the desktop, or when i go to FCP 6.0.2 it wont show there either. On the camera it says disconnect instead of connect, this is when iam connected to the new imac. On the old apple laptop it says connect as the status when i am connected, which is what it should say.
I know its weird, buh im having a hard time understanding whats the problem. I have installed all updates from apple and still no go. please help. thank you

I have used panny's P2CMS and love it. I use it all the time to check clips and files after I copy them over to external drives to verify that my files are good before I wipe the cards. Here is a link with all the panny downloads.
http://panasonic.sixbullets.net/
Good Luck
Al

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I was on the phone today with several terrific Apple techs for about five hours and we may have gotten to the bottom of this.
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After many hours of trouble shooting with me on the phone, the Apple tech was able to replicate the problem on an HVX 200 at their office.
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He opened an inquiry with the FCPX engineering department and they are looking into it.

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File>LOG AND TRANSFER...if you are using FCP 6.
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First and foremost, watch this tutorial:
P2 Workflow Tutorial
1. They stay the same size. All that happens is that a quicktime wrapper is wrapped around them, and audio and video are combined. No loss is quality occurs.
2. A SATA RAID will do you fine, but honestly I have been editing this and Varicam footage using 2 G-Raid firewire 800 drives. You need at least a firewire 800 drive, but I'd recommend a SATA Raid. Sonnet, Weibetech, Firmtek and Burly boxes...all work well.
3. Copy the P2 cards to field drives. Bring them in and transfer to firewire drives. These drives are your TAPE MASTERS. Do not erase these, do not lose these. Store these as your would field masters. I myself use internal SATA drives in a single firewire case that I swap out the drives. Cheaper than multiple enclosed drives. From there you import to your Media drives...your SATA Raid.
4. No need to offline. DVCPRO HD really doesn't take up that much space...roughly twice what DV takes. Oh...you are going 1080 24p. That takes 42.12 GB/hour DV takes about 13GB/hour.
5. Editing at full resolution is fine and easy. But you will not be able to get away with firewire 400 drives. As I said, FW800 or greater. 1080i might require more, thus the need for the SATA Raid.
I believe that you need at least a Dua 1Ghz machine for DVCPRO HD, and you have that...and you have enough RAM...so you are good. The only choking point you will have is render times. Especially when compressing for DVD. 90 min show took me 14 hours...oof.
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Hello out there.
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so called 2:2 pulldown where you double the frames,
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Ok I shoot 24pa (with is basically 24 progressive frames captured though 60i). In CS 2,3 Premiere and After Effects both removed the extra frames automatically.
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So the cut's done (locked), let's finish the color correction in AE where I have much more powerful tools available and 32 bit float.
Before I knew what I'm about to tell you I had 45 shots in a 10 minute reel as separate AE files.
WTF When I 'import Premiere pro project' in AE. Every single AE file in the project is MISSING. I have to manually tell it where each file is located.
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First and foremost, watch this tutorial:
P2 Workflow Tutorial
1. They stay the same size. All that happens is that a quicktime wrapper is wrapped around them, and audio and video are combined. No loss is quality occurs.
2. A SATA RAID will do you fine, but honestly I have been editing this and Varicam footage using 2 G-Raid firewire 800 drives. You need at least a firewire 800 drive, but I'd recommend a SATA Raid. Sonnet, Weibetech, Firmtek and Burly boxes...all work well.
3. Copy the P2 cards to field drives. Bring them in and transfer to firewire drives. These drives are your TAPE MASTERS. Do not erase these, do not lose these. Store these as your would field masters. I myself use internal SATA drives in a single firewire case that I swap out the drives. Cheaper than multiple enclosed drives. From there you import to your Media drives...your SATA Raid.
4. No need to offline. DVCPRO HD really doesn't take up that much space...roughly twice what DV takes. Oh...you are going 1080 24p. That takes 42.12 GB/hour DV takes about 13GB/hour.
5. Editing at full resolution is fine and easy. But you will not be able to get away with firewire 400 drives. As I said, FW800 or greater. 1080i might require more, thus the need for the SATA Raid.
I believe that you need at least a Dua 1Ghz machine for DVCPRO HD, and you have that...and you have enough RAM...so you are good. The only choking point you will have is render times. Especially when compressing for DVD. 90 min show took me 14 hours...oof.
And read my Blog about working with the HVX...click on Underdog to get there.
Shane

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Sounds like you either have a P2 Store, or you are using a P2 Gear with external drive attached where it paritions as it goes along. So that initial behaviour is normal. BUT...how moving those corrupts OTHER drives...makes no sense. Just copy them off into individual folders (All named different, like date and card, 092509_01, _02, _03...
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I am trying to record directly into final cut from my Panasonic HVX200 without using the P2 cards or external device. does anyone know if and how this is possible?

All you need to do is connect the camera to the computer via firewire, launch FCP, choose the Easy Setup DVCPRO HD 720p60 or whatever matches your camera settings (you cannot record 24PN to anything but the P2 card). Then open the Capture Tool, set your scratch disk and hit CAPTURE NOW.
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