PANTHER TO Tiger update discs?

Anyone know where I can get some Tiger update discs?
Our G4 needs Tiger and we currently have Panther. Evilbay is a little pricey for them at the moment.
We will Be getting a new G5 in a year or 2 with Leopard....for now I need to upgrade to Tiger any ideas?

SPCreative,
An Upgrade disc, is a disk that was provided by Apple, to consumers that purchased a new model of Mac, shortly before, or after, a new version of OS X Tiger 10.4.x, was released.
The new Mac would have had the older version Panther 10.3.x, pre-installed when manufactured.
The Upgrade disc Tiger 10.4.x, is Model Specific, for that particular Mac, and will only Update the existing system Panther 10.3.x.
It is not a full version of the OS X.
Therefore, the previous version of OS X, must be present.
The Full Retail Version, of the Tiger Install DVD, will install Tiger 10.4.x, regardless if a previous version Panther 10.3.x is present.
The discs must look exactly like the images in the above links, and not say Upgrade, CPU Drop-in DVD, or "This software is part of a hardware bundle purchase - not to be sold seperately." on them.
Additional info in these links.
Using OS X Install CDs/DVDs On Multiple Macs
What's A Computer Specific Mac OS X Release
Software Update, Upgrade: What's The Difference?
This is the correct one Mac OS X 10.4.6 Tiger, (DVD) Retail at FastMac.
And at HardCore Mac.
Notice, both are more expensive, than The Apple Store (U.S.).
ali b

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prokeds, if you want your mail as it was do this:
On your backup navigate to your ~(yourhome)/library/mail (copy the whole folder) and replace the corresponding folder on your new system. (First drag your existing Mail folder to the desktop until you're sure you don't need it.)
Do the same with ~(yourhome)/library/preferences/com.apple.mail.plist * This is a very important file which contains all email account settings and general mail preferences.
When you relaunch Mail decline any prompts to "import".
EDIT: I didn't even realize these were the instructions I already gave to the OP. They should work for you, post back if they don't or if your issue is different.
-mj
[email protected]

IBook G3, thinking about upgrading from panther to tiger?

Hello all
This is my first apple computer that I've owned, it's my mom's hand me down after she got herself a spanking new macbook pro but it actually runs decently fine, iBook G3 500Mhz, 40gb HD, 640mb memory
It currently runs a clean copy of panther 10.3.9, but with some effort, I think I could get my hands on tiger as well. However, before I do, would it be worth it to try to upgrade it on this laptop? I think panther runs fine, but I hear for each successive mac osx, it's been running faster, so in that case, I'd try to get it, but if I happen to find that it's about the same or worse, then maybe not worth the effort. I definitely like to be up to date with my software and such, so it would be nice if people with ibook G3's with specs similar to mine could tell me their experience going from panther to tiger.
Thanks in advance

Welcome To  Discussions daonesteven!
Here are images of the Full Retail Version, of the Tiger Install DVD, referred to by cornelius, that must be used.
If you know what to look for, those install discs, can be purchased rather inexpensively, at some online Apple retailers, Amazon, eBay, FastMac, etc.
The discs should look exactly like the images in the above links, and not say Upgrade, CPU Drop-in DVD, or "This software is part of a hardware bundle purchase - not to be sold seperately." on them.
As the Tiger Media Exchange Program is no longer being offered, if the iBook doesn’t have a built-in DVD-ROM player, you will have to use an alternative method of installation.
Info here Installing Tiger without a DVD drive.
Once Tiger 10.4.x is installed, you can use the PPC 10.4.10 Combo Update, to upgrade to the current version.
And additional RAM may speed the iBook up.
Shop Carefully, Examine All Documentation, And I Wish You Success!
ali b

Panther = OK, Tiger = Lots of freezes

Hi,
I just did a clean fresh install of Tiger on my eMac. After the install I repaired disk permissions (no errors found). Restarted. Installed the 10.4.7 Combo Update (downloaded from Apple.com) and again did a restart. And repaired disk permissions again (no errors found).
Software:
I installed the following software; Adium (www.adiumx.com), Quicksilver (quicksilver.blacktree.com) and Newsfire (www.newsfirerss.com). I'm running Mac OS X Tiger 10.4.7.
Hardware:
I've attached an external firewire harddrive, an usb cardreader, the official apple keyboard and a microsoft usb mouse (plugged into the keyboard's usb hub thing). Also, I have an internet connection by using a network cable. In the past, with only the official apple keyboard + mouse I had the same problems so I don't think there's a problem with the above hardware. I've tried a different keyboard in the past too. And I tried all combinations with the 2 RAM modules (256 MB + 512 MB, both installed by a certified Apple Dealer). The problem occurs both with a disc inside the SuperDrive and without. I also tried not using the internal disk for a while but that didn't help either.
The problem:
I get a lot of random freezes. For some hours everything works smoothly. But other times, one application freezes.. sometimes the Finder, sometimes Safari, other times Disk Utility, etc. When an application freezes (I get the spinning beach-ball) most of the time other applications will freeze too after I clicked them. Force Quitting applications doesn't work (well, maybe 5% of the time it does). Stuff only freezes when I actually click something, when there's interaction.
The weird thing is I almost had no problem when using Panther. I had my system checked by a certified Apple Dealer and they couldn't find a problem. (I had to run Panther at that time, which didn't crash that often)
Besides my freezes sometimes my SuperDrive will not open. Not by ejecting it in the Finder and not by using the Eject-button. I just tried Ejecting it in the Finder and the Finder froze.
I'm aware of an eMac repair program but it doesn't include my model. I do have some of the similar problems though. (my text gets scrambled too sometimes, both on Panther and Tiger). I tried the trick with removing some ATI files but that didn't help.
I've tried all the stuff like repairing disk permission, resetting firmware, resetting different kind of RAM's. But ofcourse I can try it again, just let me know which key combos I have to press .
Any help is greatly appreciated! If this forum allows it I can reward the working answer with some hours of webdesign/scripting work.
Thanks for reading,
Marc
PS
My system froze twice when writing this post. Luckily I wrote it in TextEdit and saved often.

Hi,
No need for apoligies. Double checking everything doesn't hurt.
About the three programs: they are all the latest version (all of them are updated regulary too). I don't think they are the problem because they are very popular and I haven't yet seen someone else having a problem with them. Indeed I don't use any other software, including menu bar add-ons or other stuff that may cause trouble.
I haven't yet tried starting up in Safe Mode. Since the problems only occur when I'm actually using the system I will try to only use the finder and if that doesn't crash anything I will start using the other bundled Apple software like Safari.
By the way, I've been installing DarwinPorts and some Ports too.. but they aren't causing the trouble because the problems were there before I installed it.
About the logs:
I didn't really know what to look for so I uploaded everything:
Finder.crash.log:
http://rafb.net/paste/results/SSf9mA49.html
System.log (notice all the httpd/Apache2 crashes):
http://rafb.net/paste/results/igu6cC81.html
Console.log.5 (notice the Finder crashes, they occured when trying to use Spotlight/Search):
http://rafb.net/paste/results/sx9y4468.html
httpd.crash.log (more info on the httpd crashes):
http://rafb.net/paste/results/lhJdGR17.html
DirectoryService.error.log:
http://rafb.net/paste/results/84lfry83.html
System.log (system-wide, the other one is user-specific):
http://rafb.net/paste/results/qp77r781.html
Windowserver.log
http://rafb.net/paste/results/2tSoAn47.html
I will let you know when I've got some results with Safe Mode.
PS
If you haven't tried Quicksilver yet, I can recommend it. It's hard to describe what it is but you can move/copy/open/edit/etc stuff with a few clicks. Once you've tried it you'll never go back.

Photoshop CS2 upgrade Panther to Tiger - Help please!

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I am doing a favour for my Aunt tomorrow and upgrading her G5 from Panther to Tiger.
She uses it mainly for Photoshop.
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Intalling Panther or Tiger on an imac G3

Hello,
I have a Blueberry color Imac G3 which was made in spring of 2000. I recently bought a new ibook and want to upgrade the older mac as my sister is now using it. I asked this ? a long time back but am requesting any further help you can give. The imac has 640 of ram and the Hardrive is 30 gig. There's almost nothing taking up any HD space and almost all is available. This mac is mostly used to surf the net. I do however want to install either Panther or Tiger on this unit. The person who responded before said to use a retail version for a full install. Also, would either Panther or Tiger work on this mac?
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omshanti:
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Panther: Archive and Install
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1. Warning: Although we will use Archive and Install there is always a risk something can go wrong. As a precaution back up your User Folder and any apps you can't afford to lose.
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10. Proceed with installation.
11. After installation is complete computer will restart. Open Disk Utility (Applications > Utilities > Disk Utility) and Repair Permissions.
NOTE (below):
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Follow steps 1 through 4 above.
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d. After HDD is erased resume at No. 7 above.
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I have two iMacs. I use a G5 recently upgraded from Panther to Leopard 10.5.5. My wife has a G4 with Panther 10.3.9.
Now that I have Leopard I have a Tiger install license available.
Are there good reasons to upgrade my wife's G4 to Tiger?
She uses it heavily for e-mail, internet, and MS Word.
She's networked to my G5 through Airport and we use printer sharing and file sharing.
Her G4 works great, but I'm wondering about security issues.
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[Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger system requirements|http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301341]
[OS 10.3 Panther requirements|http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106163]

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OPEN LETTER TO THE MAIL 2.0 CODING TEAM. RSVP.
with thanks to DAVID GIMENO GOST, for answering so many people's posts about all the mail 2.0 bugs.
hi guys,
i love all things apple, and i have done for twenty years.
but with respect, your build of mail 2.0 really could be a lot better.
moving my mail from 1.0 on an ibook g3 running os X 10.3.9, over to mail 2.0 on an intel macbook 1.83 running os X 10.4.7 has been a nightmare.
the discussion boards of many mac sites feature countless cases of people making the move from 1.0 to 2.0, with all their e-mails disappearing.
having spent two weeks reading the knowledge forums, and learning about emailchemy, plus all the complications which, even with that third party program, still exist in moving one's mail over from version 1.0 over to 2.0, are both massive and horrendous.
and that's for me, who has twenty years of finding my way around mac bugs.
but this one is the most difficult i've ever seen, as well as being one of the most widespread problems in a FULL VERSION RELEASE of an apple program, which apple has done nothing to resolve during the six months in which this problem has been widespread in the mac community worldwide.
so thank god for DAVID GIMENO GOST !
i'm amazed that apple still hasn't come up with a patch for moving mail from 1.0 to 2.0.
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, guys:
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i pity all the people who read the numerous forum posts about how difficult it is to transfer their mail from 1.0 to 2.0, and simply give up on the spot, and have to start their e-mail history TODAY, unable to access their previous e-mail again - potentially now for ever.
because the ironic joke is that we can't even have an access copy of mail 1.0 on our macs to read our old e-mails, unless we hack that program out of the 10.3 cd installation set, which the gurus on your own web site recommend us NOT to do !
so what are we supposed to do, to access our old e-mail, which we can't open, even though YES, it is in our mail folder, and YES, we did full rebuilds of every mail folder, and YES, we trashed our mail preferences first.
e-mail is now at the very center of the average mac user's digital life.
a user's most important program should not require countless hours scrolling through the astonishing number of problems within mail 2.0, which the apple.com discussion boards evidence, with new problems being added every day.
please sort this out, and build a patch, for the sanity of the many people who love apple, but who are unable to access any of their old e-mails.
because i wouldn't wish the last fortnight on anyone else.
RSVP, APPLE.
with best wishes to everyone on the infinity loop,
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london, england
[email protected]
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Upgrading from Panther to Tiger. Is it worth it?

Hi there. I have been debating this in my head for quite some time. It is worth upgrading from Panther to Tiger? What are the benefits?
Thanks,
dave

Hi dave!
If you do decide to upgrade, Tiger is available for purchase at The Apple Store (US).
Jaguar and Panther, are no longer available directly from the Apple Online Store, as Tiger 10.4.x is the most up to date OS.
A Full Retail Version of the Tiger Install DVD, can be purchased rather inexpensively, at some online Apple retailers, Amazon, eBay, AppleRescue, (as cornelius mentioned) etc.
Be sure not to purchase grey, upgrade or machine specific CDs or DVDs.
Additional info in these links.
Using OS X Install CDs/DVDs On Multiple Macs
What's A Computer Specific Mac OS X Release
Software Update, Upgrade: What's The Difference?
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Tiger System Requirements
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"Tiger ships on a DVD, but if your Mac doesn’t have a built-in DVD-ROM player, you’ll need CD media. When you buy Mac OS X Tiger, you qualify to purchase Tiger CDs for only $9.95."
Download The Order Form Here. Media Exchange Program
Shop Carefully, Examine All Documentation, And Good Luck!
ali b

Having problems upgrading from Panther to Tiger

Hi there!
I'm new to this place, but very desperate to find answers. I have been trying to upgrade from panther to tiger for the past week and have gotten a mess. I have to restore my old panther system after a panic kernal while trying to install tiger. I have tried to upgrade, install and archive and erase and install tiger and the same keeps happening: after 30-30% installation of essentials, I get a "try installing again" message and immediately goes to a blank blue screen. I have to reboot from my eDisk on the external hd and re-install my old system. I've done EVERYTHING I can find on the web and in the install suggestions. Everything has been updated (firmware, sofware, etc.), I tired disconnecting external devices except the keyboard and the external dvd I need to install and still the same thing...over and over and over!
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So, any ideas out there? Glad to hear your input!

Call 1-800-MY-APPLE WRT media exchange program and the DVD version you have.

Be carefull when upgrading from Panther to Tiger

If you choose to upgrade from Panther to Tiger by using the Erase and install option on the Tiger DVD install disk, your XServe RAID won't mount. The problem seems to be that the driver for the RAID won't be updated in the process.
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Mattur:When I restart to install the OS, it goes into a Kernel Panic and tells me to restart.I take it to mean that you mean you put the install disk and open it and at the prompt you restart, and it goes into the kernel panic. I notice too that you sayI can reinstall Panther with the disk the computer came with , but I can't install Tiger..In other words there is a problem is with the Tiger disk.
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If you are planning to install Tiger check out System Requirements to be sure your computer complies.
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Hi Silverfox;
Your PB is update because it is running Panther and your G5 is up todate because it is running Tiger. You can get from Panther to Tiger with an update, you will have to buy the Tiger upgrade media and upgrade the PB to Tiger.
Using the install media for the G5 which is hardware specific would be both illegal and probably not work correctly any way.
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