Pantone CS6

I have problem between Photoshop CS6 and Corel.
When closing a file. PSD in Photoshop CS6 with Colors Spot (Pantone) and import it into Corel (Independent release), it appears without the pantone. This does not occur if the file is closed in Photoshop CS5 or lower.
any idea?

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Hi Guys,
I've read through this whole forum and I have found a solution to everyones problem. It is a work around but will save everyone alot of time and hassle and so far it hasn't let me down.
First step: Following the instructions as per the adobe page http://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/kb/pantone-plus.htm for replacing the colour books. Make sure you follow all of the instructions for defaulting the setting in Illustrator CS6 to use only CMYK breakdowns (this is very very important) This will fix your problem in Illustrator however you will still notice that importing any artwork into indesign, the Pantone colours will still load as LAB versions (despite having deleted the Pantone+ swatches from your library)
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SO.....
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