Partial quantity of Material in Extended and Classic Scenarios

Does it possible to pass partial quantity of Material into Extended and Classic Scenario ;for instance we have 100 qty for a material & out of them 60 qty goes to Extended PO and 40 qty goes to Classic in backend system .
If yes so how & what criteria would be ?

Hi Lalit,
Until now we did not use both classic and extended classic for one organization.
Are you using that or you just have a doubt??
Regards,
Satish

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in spro
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Maria
If you want the contracts to be in SRM and do not want them to send to Backend, then check this out.
Create a Vendor list for those items in SRM by assigning the local contracts to the vendors.Activate Vendor list for sourcing.
Then local contract data should pick as SOS from the vendor list.
If you can create contracts in Backend for stock material then SC would pick the backend contract as SOS in classic scenario.
Let me know if the above works or not.
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A question regarding contracts - and interpretation...
On help.sap.com the following is stated:
<i>SAP Enterprise Buyer, as the central purchasing system, saves the contract data and uses it for local purchase orders and purchase orders of the extended classic scenario.</i>
I interpret this as, if one is using the classic scenario it's not possible to operate with local contracts in the SRM system. Can anyone confirm this?
And if so - any workarounds?
Our dilemma is that we have an extended classic scenario. Some materials are stock materials, and for these materials we are using a BAdi to switch off the extended classic scenario. No contract data is now added to the shopping cart, which I think is due to the classic scenario.
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Maria
If you want the contracts to be in SRM and do not want them to send to Backend, then check this out.
Create a Vendor list for those items in SRM by assigning the local contracts to the vendors.Activate Vendor list for sourcing.
Then local contract data should pick as SOS from the vendor list.
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Just want to clarify if it's possible to create limit SC and directly createa BE limit PO without using Ext. Classic Scenario?
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Hi Michael,
We are currently using a SRM 4.0 and we do NOT use ECS.
My problem is that we normaly only give access to BBPSC02 to our users and I do not see the limit position here.
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/Thomas

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Thanks for reply.
It seems here is some confusion. PDP of Dircet Material is standard SRM secarion where we can soure the requieremnets generted in various SAP Module like PS, PM , SD, APO..etc. So We just hav eintenstion to source the requiermnet in Sourcing cockpit to create the PO .
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I understand the difference between Extended Classic and Classic Scenario with the follow on document creation. But, I need to understand the business benifits of implementing Extended Classic Scenario as opposed to Classic Scenario in SRM. In what business scenario do one suggest Extended Classic.
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