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I made several comments and/or suggestions to the Noob question and I am wondering why no one has made any replies? Good or Bad! Am I not using this site correctly? Please advise, because I would like to be an active participant to help and give help, if I can. Thanks.

You don't seem to understand the mechanics of the forums.
In all, you've made 8 posts
The first 4 were added to the bottom of a thread that had petered out 12 days earlier
Then today you posted to it again
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?thread=558846&forum=54&message=2767664
You started a thread to which two replies were made within an hour of its posting
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?thread=562477&forum=54&message=2767725
Now you wonder why no replies to the first set of posts?
Because you "hijacked" the thread from the person that started it. By then, forum activity had passed on to newer threads that represented current, active issues. Threads with 10-20 replies that are receiving current replies usually represent an ongoing discussion that most people pass by.
What should you do to get attention? Start you own threads, and if you don't get any replies it's usually because either:
1) Your post is bad - unintelligible -ridiculous - stupid - etc and no one wants to spend the time to reply.
2) No one has the "answer" or can help.

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HOWTO: get your questions answered on this forum

As this is primarily about formatting, I hope I've got everything right :)
Giving your posting a clear layout is helpful to the other participants in this forum, because it makes your contribution easier to read. Here are some tips for increasing the clarity of your question or reply.
[list=1]
[*]1. PLEASE DO NOT USE ALL CAPITALS. It makes your posting harder to read. Mixed case (at least in English) has the greatest variety of letter shapes and therefore conveys the most information to a reader's eyes. Also, netiquette considers all capitals to be the equivalent of SHOUTING and is thus rude.
[*]2. Pls dont us txt abbrvtns n ur pstng. This also makes things difficult to read. Nobody will think you are less of a "d00d" if you use you instead of u.
[*]3. Please make use of the UBB formatting options. These are like HTML mark-up, but they use square brackets - []- instead of pointy ones - <>. More information can be found at the Forum FAQ http://forums.oracle.com/forums/faq.jsp?uid=1027669490365 (unfortunately, the URL for the actual formatting page is not visible to us, so I can't post it here).
[*]4. Please include all necessary information. This usually means, at minimum, the database version you are using. If you are asking about a piece of your own code that does not work, post the error code and/or message, or at least describe its behaviour. Saying "it doesn't work" doesn't give us much to go on. Posting the code is a good idea, unless it's humongous: use the UBB [ code ][ /code ] format.
[*]5. Please read the documentation before posting. Some people are offended by replies that say RTFM or STFW. You won't invite such replies if you have made reasonable efforts to find out the answer yourself before posting here. This means at least reading the Oracle manual. You should also try using the Forum search engine, although we know it is somewhat unreliable: OTN have promised to make it better soon. There is a lot of information on the web so learning to use a search engine like Google (http://www.google.com) will help you as well.
[*]6. Start a new thread for a fresh topic. Appending a new subject to an existing thread is not a good idea. If it's a long running thread only a handful of people might visit it - as everyone else has got bored - which decreases your chances of getting a reply. Also, it antagonises the people who are following that thread.
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There's further discussion of formatting postings here: The specified item was not found..
In summary, if you cannot be bothered to spend the time making you post easy and interesting to read why should other people spend their time answering it? There are no Oracle moderators on this forum, we are all volunteers.
Cheers, APC
Caveat emptor
This advice is posted on behalf of the Rogue Moderators. It is posted with the best of intentions but is not guaranteed in any way, shape or form

7. Don't post the same question several times.If someone can answer your question, he/she will do, asking twice or more often
doesn't give better answers.
8. Do not use terms like "URGENT" or "pl.answer asap".
Noone will answer faster, but many will be bored.
9. Do not login with a name like NULL NULL.
People answering your question would like to talk to a person,
not to a brain damage.

1000 Postings in this forum!

Hello everyone.
I just noticed that with this posting we reach the number of 1000 postings since this forum was opened on March, 26th. After a time of testing we anounced the forum in our old mailing list end of April and now it seems that we established a lively community here in the SDN.
Thanks to everyone participating in this forum! Setting up the SDN forum is one thing but for a good community it needs all of us taking part. Asking questions, answering questions or discussing news about SAP on system i.
And if you have any questions regarding this forum feel free to ask...
Once again a big thank you to all of you taking part in this forum,
Jan

re: "ask how in the world they wound up doing that"
Hear! Hear!
Tom,
I often asked myself the same, even at the old forums Discussions Feedback, as it is not evident with the way the Discussions designers have laid out the site that any question would be posted here "except" for the appropriate questions!
Allowing for a user to be (and obviously they most likely are) new to the Discussions....it is still quite hard to understand how a user winds up here and then posts a question that should be posted in another forum logically.
I, and I'm sure yourself, would love to know out of curiosity more than anything as it really makes no sense what possibly a user's path would be to bring them here for posting hardware/software questions. At first I thought there might be a hint that a user may come here looking for how to use the forum and then continue to post here as well....but the Bold Red banner at top really is hard to miss....wouldn't you say....lol ))))
My post here is not to ridicule the users who post here as I'm sure they would post in the appropriate forum if they knew better but it just seems so strange.
Best,
littleshoulders [:-)

How to format posts in this forum.

As you may have noticed posts in this form lose all formatting when you post even when you use formatting tags. Unfortunatley this well known yet mysteriously unresolved issue is true for almost all of the recently added forums, which seems a pity because several, like this one seem to be in concept a good idea.
Of course no formatting is a pain because it creates unreadable posts.
But wait there's a paragraph break! And here's another one! How did I do this?
Thankfully the same bug that means that normal formatting tags are not enabled for this forum also means that HTML tags ARE enabled for this forum.
Feedback has been reported on this issue since early June to no avail and I don't expect any change any time soon so I thought I'd let those interested in participating in this forum how they can actually post posts that can be read.
Finally here's a quickie HTML primer to help those who need it.
 <center><table border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0">
<tr><td>Tag</td><td>Description</td><td>Example</td></tr>
<tr><td></td><td>Paragraph Tag</td><td>Paragraph oneparagraph two</td></tr>
<tr><td> </td><td>Line Break</td><td>Line one line two</td></tr>
<tr><td></td><td>Bold</td><td>Bold text</td></tr>
<tr><td><pre></td><td>Preformatted Tag</td><td><pre>
public class Sample{
private int x = 3;
</pre> Note that while this loses syntax highlighting it will keep code formatting intact</td></tr>
</table></center>
And just to note for the pre and bold tags you will need closing tags at the end of the text you want to format in this manner. Otherwise it will not stop which will also be unplesant. Ending tags look like and </pre>
Hope some may find this helpful

Known forums with this issue include<ul>
<li>This one http://forum.java.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=546&start=0</li>
<li>HotSpot FAQs http://forum.java.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=547</li>
<li>RSS Feeds http://forum.java.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=532</li>
<li>Kerberos & Java GSS http://forum.java.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=545</li>
</ul>
There may be others but certainly these newish ones are all broken and need to be fixed. This bug is annoying from a user perspective but also they can be dangerous as well if exploited
I know I have personally reported feedback about this problem since at least the middle of June to no effect yet

What's wrong with this Forum? Why does Adobe take so long to reply to posts?!

What's wrong with this Forum? Why does Adobe take so long to reply to posts?!
This is actually "specific" to this Photoshop Forum.
I typically get responses back from other Adobe forum promptly.
Chime in.

The Adobe engineering folks DO duck in here from time to time - and that's a BLESSING! Please name any other big company where you get to interact with the engineers AT ALL. I can't. But I suspect the engineers actually have a lot oof real work to do, and their time here is necessarily limited.
Your comments are more along the line of "I pay a huge amount, for that I expect better support". These are very valid comments. But reality is different from what we may expect, and this forum is not the place to expect Adobe support participation AT ALL. In fact, the technical support people at Adobe often direct users to come here (something I've always found amusing).
At the higher level, Adobe may simply not be spending enough on support for literally millions of users. Is is greed or smart business to try to minimize support cost? That's up for individuals to decide.
I suggest you write a snail-mail letter to the Adobe president if you're not getting the support you need.
-Noel

How to make this forum better?

Hi friends
I have the ability to create an announcement inside this forum. So I'm thinking about this possibility. I'm following this forum for about a time just to be sure it's free of spammers (and also for learning each time more about scripts and participating when having time).
I'd like your opinion....
What do you think about creating an announcement called "Read it before posting your questions here". The body of the announcement should tell the users links from where are the manuals of Illustrator Scripting and the JavaScripts Tools Guide. This could help people find useful informations of Illustrator scripting and know more about it. Do you think it would be useful?
Also, do you think some times...is there some users who ask questions, but, at true their objectives is to make the specialists here to create an entire code for them?? ...like..."Hey, I want to create a snow ball in Illustrator. How could I do via script?"
If you perceive there are such users, do you think would be good to include in the announcement a paragraph to warn about this?? So, this would alert this forum is a place essentially for "help"?
Can you share your inputs about this subject, on how I could create a good announcement to help new users to use it better?
Thank you very much
Best Regards
Gustavo.
Message was edited by: Gustavo Del Vechio

Carlos
When I open the Illustrator scripting main page (http://forums.adobe.com/community/illustrator/illustrator_scripting), logged or not, the new yellow widget appears above the list of discussions. See my print of screen.
Other unecessary widgets was taken off from the avaliable area of the page.
Don't you see it in your side?
Best Regards
Gustavo.

Welcome to this forum on "Core J2EE Patterns" by the Sun Java Center

Welcome to this forum on Core J2EE Patterns by the Sun Java Center!
CONTEXT:
This forum is intended for discussing the patterns from the Sun Java Center J2EE Pattern Catalog and other topics discussed in our book, Core J2EE Patterns.
We, the authors of the book, welcome you to this forum.
WHO WE ARE:
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Visit our web-site for more information on SJC:
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BACKGROUND:
Over the last few years, we at SJC have worked with our customers in architecting, designing, and implementing solutions on the J2EE platform. We have worked on documenting the J2EE patterns for over two years and released the patterns for public review in Beta form via the Java Developer Connection in May, 2001.
The beta version of the patterns is available online as The Sun Java Center J2EE Pattern Catalog at:
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Subsequent to the release, we received great feedback and comments from hundreds of reviewers. We then worked towards incorporating the feedback into the pattern documentation. One of the common comments was about the lack of code examples in the online documentation. The latest pattern documentation provides many code examples and incorporates all the feedback received so far.
BOOK INFORMATION:
Core J2EE Patterns, the book, was released at JavaOne 2001 during June 4-9, and will be available in stores around the end of June 2001.
The book includes the complete updated Sun Java Center J2EE Pattern Catalog with 15 patterns covering these J2EE technologies: Java Server Pages (JSP), Servlets, Enterprise JavaBeans (EJB), and Java Message Service (JMS). In addition to the J2EE Pattern Catalog, the book also provides other chapters that discuss design considerations,
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Rajakannan,
There are numerous ways to implement a templating mechanism in support of the composite view pattern, included in the catalog as a presentation-tier pattern.
The goal is to avoid simply having monolithic views with all the formatting code embedded directly withing the view. If we have common subviews that are shared across several or more views then we end up with a copy-and-paste type of reuse...undesirable. So, modularity is one issue. Another major force when considering the Composite View pattern is that we may want to manage the layout of our pages and the content of our pages separately. We may have some logical regions defined, such as a search panel and main body, and a subview that plugs into those logical regions that map to a physical page (ie: x.jsp and y.jsp). We may then want to vary one independent of the other...ie: we may want to modify the layout of the page w/o changing the content and we may want to vary the content w/o touching the layout.
There are a number of implementation strategies that can be used to implement the Composite View pattern, ranging from relatively simple to much more sophisticated. We describe each in our book and include source code examples.
The example in the book that allows for supporting all the issues described above is implemented using the "Custom Tag View Management Strategy" and uses a tag library written by David Geary, that supports the Composite View pattern. The library is also included in David's new book, Adv. JavaServer Pages, Prentice Hall, 2001.
Again, it's simply one implementation and, as you mention, there are many different ways to implement this strategy.
Thanks for your question,
Dan

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Hello,
This forum description reads "Discuss and ask questions about .NET Framework Base Classes (BCL)
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It should be "Registry".

Oh, it is...
Thanks for your feedback I will try to involve someone to correct it.
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Hi there . I am having trouble getting rid of the incessant emails this forum mis sending me .

Can somebody tell me how to get rid of all communication with this forum ? the emails are driving me nuts ! Its a bit like that movie Haloween .
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Every time you reply on a thread_which you do a lot with things like 'C' or 'B' ,you are subscribed to that thread and will receive email notifications whenever some one else replies to that same thread. The forum system doesn't realize you are simply posting jibberish and thinks you are actually participating and interested in threads.
To unsubscribe- after logging in at forum and seeing this message-click your name at left on your post.This will take you to your Profile page.In the right side of the page click on "Resources and Settings'' to expand it.There you will see 'My subscriptions'.Open that and uncheck all of the threads you have posted nonsense replies on.
In the future don't reply with anything such a "B" or "C"on a thread unless you are actually interested in the topic and wish to be notified of updates to it.
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To Adobe : Please add point system to this forum like SAP forum

Adding point system to this forum will encourage and
recognize people who is doing good work in this forum.
Add positive and negative point system.
SDN SAP forum is using point system effectively.
It shows who got maximum point this week, who got maximum
point this month, till today who got maximum points.
Points are give by people who ask questions based on correct
answer. If answer is correct, 1 point is awarded.
wrong answer and arrogant answer -1 point.
We need to recognize people who help others. This will be a
good start to make this forum interesting and user friendly.

Dude wrote:
As far as I understand, the suggestion to get rid of the point system means that there is a problem with people giving bad answers and participating just for the sake of collecting points, and that the overall quality of the forum would improve if there was no scoring system.
I think this is wrong for the following simple reasons:
It takes too much effort to gather the necessary points to eventually create any level of visibility. People who are just after points will loose interest when they realize how difficult it is to get points. It simply does not pay off.
There is no such formula which shows that people who enjoy the scoring system provides bad answers and those who do not provide good answers. I find such ideas discriminating and lobbying.
People have individual motives why they actively participate in the forum. Removing the scoring system will most likely not only affect the desired group of people. It might suit those who think their contributions to the forums are underrated and undermined and hence removing the scoring system removes the evidence.
To my experience, the likeliness of bad answers and possible wrong judgements based on the perceived status of a person may depend on the forum topics and is no real problem. Last not least, there is usually an option to outline wrong answers or judgement, regardless of the scoring system.Your passion towards this community is admirable, and I certainly wouldn't want to alienate those who both enjoy the scoring system and helping others. If it's really that important to some of the experts around here, then perhaps you are right. But, since the issue does seem to be polarized among others that have been around as long as yourself, it seems that the answer is really not so clear-cut. We'll probably just have to agree to disagree on this one.
I marked your response as helpful. ;)

Severe test trying to register for this forum...

I've just registered for this forum, but I needed every ounce of my technical wits to achieve that...
I was asked for a "Screen Name" so ended up with Apodida (Hi there, other "Swifty" and "Swiftie").
Then I was asked for "*Word verification by reCAPTCHA".
The problem was, no CAPTCHA image appeared. My browser (Opera) accepts all images, so I presumed a browser issue and tried Firefox... same result. IE9... same again. Chrome v23... same. Safari... same.
If you think I'm laying it on a bit thick, it's because I seem to be heading for: http://swiftys.org.uk/images/dilbert.gif
The answer was to disable JavaScript, as the page then works in a purely textual mode. Of couse, no one who needs this information will find their way here...

Thanks for the answer, Apodida.
The problem is even more complicated that can be imagined.
You must have javascript enabled in order to log into the main HP Passport screen. If it is not enabled, the button to login using your username and password will not appear. If you can't log into HP Passport, you can't participate in any discussions.
However, if you've never participated in the discussion forum and do not have a forum username associated to your HP Passport account, you'll need to register a username and go through the ReCaptcha test to prove that you're a human being. If you have Javascript enabled in your browser, the ReCaptcha image will not appear on the screen. Therefore, you must disable Javascript in order to register and participate in the forum.
That is just plain dumb. It's certainly apparent to me that the discussion forum and the HP Passport website are managed by different web devs/admins who aren't talking to each other because their separate browser requirements are at conflict with each other. The end result - the users suffer, leaving the impression that HP doesn't know how to take care of their business.

How to change email address login for this forum

I no longer have the email address I use for this forum and was wondering how to change it if possible?

One of these links should help you:
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Apple ID Assistance Form/Feedback

Attachments to discussions-this forum?

Attachments to discussions-this forum?
My question is complicated. In order to ask it, I need to attach a Word doc and a PDF to illustrate my problem.
Is it possible to do this here and, if so, how?

Sorry, users cannot attach files in this forum for security and copyright reasons.
To share a file, post it to a cloud service (e.g. Dropbox) and paste the link in your question. Be aware that it will be visible to the entire world, so don't include anything sensitive or personal.

Has anyone in this Forum had problems with installing and running Adobe apps on the new MacPro?

Has anyone in this Forum had problems with installing and running Adobe apps on the new MacPro?
I have been trying to install Photoshop CS6 & CC and Acrobat Pro XI on my Mac Pro (late 2013). I keep getting a 'configuration' error message and wondered if the problem was wide spread.
TIA,
Jerry

Thanks, Martin.
Good to hear someone has had success. The lack of it here is frustrating and depressing.
Thanks again,
Jerry

I am writing to this forum to ask for help in determining whether Aperture will satisfy my needs when I switch from Windows to MAC in the near future.

I am writing to this forum to ask for help in determining whether Aperture will satisfy my needs when I switch from Windows to MAC in the near future.
I am currently using Photoshop Elements 8 on Windows 7. After several years of use, I am self taught and adequately proficient for an amateur. What I didn't realize (until I started researching my upcoming migration on the Internet) is that I actually use PE8 for two functions: digital asset management and digital editing.
Regarding Digital Asset Management: My research leads me to understand that PE on MAC does not provide the same level of organizational capability that I am used to having on Windows, instead providing Adobe's Bridge which does not look very robust. Furthermore, iPhoto, which come on MAC will not support the hierarchical keyword tagging that I require to organize my library of photos. The two SW applications which I am thinking of switching to are either Aperture or Adobe's Lightroom. Frankly, I'm thinking that it would be smoother to stay within the Apple product line.
So the remaining question is whether Aperture will support my digital editing needs. The tweaks that I do to my photos are not very complex (no, I do not want to put people's heads on other animal bodies). But could someone who uses Aperture tell me whether It will allow me to do the following kinds of edits?:
- If I have a photo where someone's face is too shadowed, can I lighten just that person's face, and leave the rest of the photo as-is?
- if I have a photo where the background is cluttered (eg, 2 people in front of the Parthenon which is undergoing renovation), can I remove just the construction cranes?
- Can it splice together several separate photos to give a panoramic?
If, once I get Aperture, I find that it cannot enable the kinds of editing that I do, I would probably get PE11 in the future. However, if people in this forum tell me that Aperture will definitely not support the kinds of editing which I've described in the previous paragraph, I would prefer to get PE11 with my initial configuration (since someone will be helping me with my migration).
Thanks in advance for your consideration and help!

I am concerned, however, about using a non-Apple Digital Asset Manager in OSX. I would really like to avoid integration problems. Is using PE11 to import and catalog my digital photos likely to cause conflicts?
Thanks for any insight on this
Amy,
Not so much conflicts as maybe a little less seamless integration with Apple software and perhaps some third-party software providers in the Mac App Store where some programs build in direct access to iPhoto and Aperture libraries for getting images into those programs easily. Typically, there is a manual command to go to Finder (think Windows Explorer) to browse folders.
One caution to mention however, is that the organization you set-up in PE Organizer is unlikely to transfer over to either iPhoto or Aperture if you decide to change at some point.
The only real stumbling block that I see in your opening comment is that you want hierarchical keywording (Kirby or Léonie can go into the details on keywording limitations as I stay at one level). If you can work with the keywording schemes of either iPhoto or Aperture, then using PE for your external editor (either program supports setting an external editor) would probably be ideal since you know PE well. This is the idea with the Mac App Store version of PE (editor with no organizer).
Note - I use Photoshop CS6 (full version) with Aperture and it works really well. The only downside is that Aperture has to make either a TIFF or PSD file to send to an external editor so that the original file is protected by not sending it to the pixel editor. While TIFF or PSD files protect the integrity of the image information without degrading it, they are typically much larger file sizes on disk than either RAW or JPEG files. Therefore, your library size (iPhoto or Aperture) will balloon quite a bit if you send a lot of files to external editors.
One other possibility for an external editor would be a program called Pixelmator. It is pretty similar to early versions of Photoshop, but built for Mac. Other than the panoramics you want, it will do most pixel editing that PE can do. It is not an organizer, so it is built to go with either iPhoto or Aperture. It does have differences in how you complete certain procedures, so there is bit of a learning curve when you are used to doing it the Adobe way.

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