Partitioning harddrive with time machine?

I've just purchased a macbook along with a 500 gb hard drive to accompany it and to store my loads and loads of music files that would otherwise clog the space on my computer. I've come to the realization though that I would like to use time machine to backup my files, but seeing as I only have 160 gb's on my computer it seems pointless to utilize this whole hard drive for time machine solely. I would much rather put my music files on the hard drive outside of the realm of time machine. I realize that this way my music files would not be backed up with time machine, but having them archived on the hard drive would be safe enough for me anyway since I have all the cds if something were to go wrong. Is there anyway that I can use an external hard drive for both time machine and file storing?
thanks!

Paul Quemades wrote:
Hi. Not sure if this is relevant but...I'm not sure about the extra space needed for back ups. I just got a new external drive, a G MINI 500 GB. The 500 GBs aren't the space quota you actually have available for storage as it takes something like 35 for operation. When I backed up my system, calculated on the Mac at 210 GB, onto the Drive, that same amount was what was subtracted from the available space,neither more nor less.
The 2-3 times is because Time Machine stores multiple copies of your system-kind of.
See: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/mac-os-x-10-5.ars/14 for details.

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