Partitioning Sys9.2 & Panther

Does partitioning SYS 9.2 and Panther erase my drive? I just installed Panther WITH 9.2 on the computer but am thinking of partitioning it. The CD information says it will, but why? Shouldn't you be able to use this feature without having to lose years of information you've accummulated on the computer?

Hi tucci:
There are some third party utilities that will partition a drive without any data loss (a google search would find them), but Disk Utility does not.
Right now, your hard drive contains a single volume, with a directory that keeps track of all the files on the hard drive. DU creates a directory for each partition you want to create, and assigns enough blocks of hard drive space to each partition to make it the desired size. It's a straight-forward process that overwrites any existing directories in the process. So although partitioning doesn't actually erase the drive, the end result is pretty much the same.
If you want to preserve all those years of data, you'll have to shell out for a program with that feature. (iPartition is one, but I've never used a third-party partition tool, so I can't make any recommendations.)
Andrew

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    2. I assume it's better to use Panther rather than Tiger, as it's a smaller OS. The Firewire drive has 65GB capacity, with 44GB used for a Leopard 10.5.8 backup. About 20GB is available. And best to leave at least 10-20% of that space free.
    3. Would an 8GB flash memory stick work to backup Panther and 9.2.1, as well as apps, files, etc.? Nothing is large on the G3--would not need about 70% of the software that was originally installed on it (printer, scanner, browsers, modem, etc.)
    Is this a workable idea?
    Thanks!
    G

    Hi G, The floods are in the north and I live in the south so everything is good here, but it seems half the world is either flooded or snowbound.
    The La Nina effect in the Pacific is one explanation for the Australian deluge. Whether the extensive snow in the northern hemisphere is related, I'd be guessing.
    As to your ambition, maybe find someone with a working Panther OS and clone it to an external with SuperDuper, and see if that works for you. As I've said, I have my doubts and think preserving your old hardware is perhaps the most straightforward thing to do.
    If your old G3 is taking up space, maybe acquire an old laptop just for the purpose.
    Every so often I fire up my iBook, so as to run an old app under Classic.

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