Partner in the output determination
Hi all,
If my output type is partner independant output then with out partner function I am able to trigger the output type in the sales document.In this case to whom the output is going
If it is partner dependant then I need to use the partner function while maintaining the output condition record.
What is the difference between the above? Give some Business example
REagdrs
Mano
Well i think if we are taking a print output, then the recipient does not really matter. The partner will come into play when we are talking of sending EDI's or email directly to the concerned person.
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Partner function in Output Determination
Hello everyone!
I am desperately in need of help, I guess like everbody else :).
I have 2 output types in the delivery header: OUT1 and OUT2
At any time, the system should determine only 1 output of these two (never both)
OUT1 is a specific output type based on Sold to customer (a specific customer#).
OUT2 is the generalized one; for all other Sold to parties.
I have a common Access Sequence with 2 tables (accesses)
Step 10: Shipping Point/Shipment Type/Sold to Party (exclusive flag checked here)
Step 20: Shipping Point/Shipment Type
Condition Records
1. For OUT1: Defined a condition record only for first access (step 10) with a specific Sold To number. Here in Partner Function I gave SP.
2. For OUT2: Defined a condition record only for second access (step 20) with no Sold To number. But it wouldn't let me save without partner function, this is my problem.....If I give SP in partner function it determines both the output types, while if I give some other Partner function it never determines this output type (even when Sold to party does not match condition record of OUT1)
Any help is appreciated .
Regards,Hey Vik,
You have two choices
1. Let you config remain the same
for one o/p type-- define the specific SP
for the other, maintain the rest of them except this one.. there is no limit so you could maintain many.. you can upload them using LSMW if you do not want to do it manually
Else,
Use 2 different access sequences for your message types.. omne with condition access governed by a Specific SP, the other is generic.
Edit the requirement(9__) for the 2nd message type, and hard code logic saying if it is the first customer, do not genereate the 2nd message. -
Output Determination / Partner Profile
I have a vendor with an LI Partner Profile setup in the system. Every time an invoice is posted against this vendor, I need the system to generate an IDOC for external transmission.
How do I setup the output determination to make this happen?
Thanks - points will be rewarded.I just did changes with my access sequense, was using Sales Org/ShipTo/BillTo but just changed to Billing Type and it worked fine, I got my error.
Just one more question, I am doing this output via medium 6 and date 4 (send immediately) now since my output is founf in the billing doc and it is saving properly what is my next job to create the programme?
Please provide me the steps.
Thanks for your help !!!
Aman -
Field catalog not appearing in the condition table for output determination
Hello,
I wanted to include WBSTK as a condition table entry in the output determination for outbound deliveries, WBSTK is available as field catalog , but not available during condition table creation.
Can you pls help me out?
Regards
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Partner profile and partner number in output of order/invoice.
Hello Experts,
I want to know how system pick partner profile from output type triggered in sales order/invoice??
I could see partner profile is different from partner number exist in output triggered in sales order/invoice.
I want to know the triggering point of idoc from SO/invoice.
ThanksThe phrase "ouptut goes to partner" indicates that the partner will be recipient of the output type. E.g., ship-to partner will be the recipient of the delivery and the delivery note.
The use of an output partner in the output condition record is used to control the output device used in the output determination - a completely separate issue.
Unless you are (e.g.) using different printers for outputs which will be sent to different partners, you would likely be better off using a more generic access for your output condition records.
HTH
James -
Email PO to buyer via output determination
I'm trying to configure the emailing of a PO to a buyer (ME partner function) or alternatively user responsible (VU partner function) using output determination. I do not wish to use the vendor partner function.
I've got a condition table where I can select by purchasing group. In the output condition record, where VU is assigned to the purchasing group, what should the Partner value be? The SAP User ID?
Or if I were to use the ME buyer partner function, how do I tie the buyer specific email address to the condition record?
Thanks, VladHi,
Hopefully this desc may be of some help to you.
Basically there are two mail types: Internet mail (external mail) and
SAPOffice mail.
Mail is sent via the output determination in both cases.
If you use the external mail, the message for the purchasing document is
converted into a corresponding text file which is sent to the vendor via
the Internet.
SAPOffice mail is sent only within the R/3 System and has mainly the
function of providing information.
In particular, it is not possible to attach a message (form) for a
purchasing document to a SAPOffice mail.
When using external mail, the following basic settings are required:
1. You must maintain an e-mail address in the address in the vendor
master.
2. The same applies to your own user master. You also have to specify
an e-mail address there in order to identify the sender.
o Note that it is not possible to change the e-mail address of the endor
o You can use a temporary email address in Transaction ME21N.
3. For the output type for default values, a communication strategy
needs to be maintained in the Customizing that supports the e-mail.
You can find the definition of the communication strategy in the
Customizing via the following path: (SPRO -> IMG -> SAP Web
Application Server -> Basic Services -> Message Control -> Define
Communication Strategy). As a default, communication strategy CS01
is delivered. This already contains the necessary entry for the
external communication. Bear in mind that without a suitable
communication strategy it is not possible to communicate with a
partner via Medium 5 (external sending).
4. Use the standard SAP environment (program 'SAPFM06P', FORM routine
'ENTRY_NEU' and form 'MEDRUCK') as the processing routines.
5. In the condition records for the output type (for example,
Transaction MN04), use medium '5' (External send).
6. You can use Transaction SCOT to trigger the output manually. The
prerequisite for a correct sending is that the node is set
correctly. This is not described here, but it must have already been
carried out.
7. To be able to display, for example, the e-mail in Outlook, enter PDF
as the format in the node.
To use the SAPOffice mail, the following basic settings are required:
1. For the output type for default values, a communication strategy
needs to be maintained in the Customizing that supports the e-mail.
You can branch to the maintenance of the communication strategy via
the input help.
2. Use the SAP standard environment (program "RSNASTSO" and FORM
routine "SAPOFFICE_AUFRUF") as the processing routines.
3. In the condition records for the output type (for example,
Transaction MN04), use medium '7' (SAPOffice) and also partner role
'MP' (mail partner).
Additional settings:
Problem:
How can you both change the mail title and text for the sending of a
mail message and maintain a replacement parameter, for example a
document number.
Solution:
1. The replacement routine is maintained in the Customizing for the
output type in the detail screen on the 'General data' tab under
'Replacement of text symbols' (for Release < 4.6B, this can be found
on the 'Mail' tab page).
Program: SAPMM06E
FORM routine: TEXT_SYMBOL_REPLACE
2. Maintain mail title and text.
o If you want to send a purchase order within an R/3 system using
the SAP office, you can maintain both the mail title ('Re:') and
also a mail text in the Customizing for the output type To do
this, select the directory mail title and text for the
corresponding message type.
o If you want to send a purchase order as (external) mail, for
example, to a vendor, you have to maintain the mail title in the
condition record for the output type (for example in Transaction
MN05) on the 'Communication method' tab page. Enter the mail
title in the 'Text for cover page' field. You cannot maintain an
additional mail text.
o Note that the values from the mail title are used to create the
description for the attachment.
3. The replacement parameters must be enclosed by &. Example: You want
to enter the title 'PO number '. For this you have to enter
the following in the Document Title field (Message Customizing ->
sub-option: Mail title and texts) 'PO number &EKKO-EBELN&' -
Output determination and Printer determination for both PO and GR
Dear all,
Can anyone please help me in congiguring the output determination and printer determination for both PO and GR. please give me detailed configuration including the paths as i am stuck with the configuration.
Thanks & Warm Regards
Somashekar Anandhi Somashekar
follow he steps
Output of Purchase Order
1. Condition Table
SPRO > Material Management> Purchasing -> Message -> Output Control->Condition Tables->Define Condition Table for Purchase Order
Select:
Purchasing Doc. Type,
Purch. Organization,
Vendor
2. Access Sequences
SPRO -> Material Management-> Purchasing -> Message -> Output Control->Access Sequences->Define Condition Table for Purchase Order
3. Message Type
SPRO -> Material Management-> Purchasing -> Message -> Output Control->Message Types->Define Message Type for Purchase Order
*4. Message Determination Schemas*
4.1. Message Determination Schemas
SPRO -> Material Management-> Purchasing -> Message -> Output Control->Message Schema->Define Message Schema for Purchase Order-> Maintain Message Determination Schema
4.2. Assign Schema to Purchase Order
SPRO -> Material Management-> Purchasing -> Message -> Output Control->Message Schema->Define Message Schema for Purchase Order-> Assign Schema to Purchase Order
5. Partner Roles per Message Type
SPRO -> Material Management-> Purchasing -> Message -> Output Control-> Partner Roles per Message Type ->Define Partner Role for Purchase Order
6. Condition Record
Navigation Path: SAP Menu-> Logistics -> Material Management -> Purchasing-> Master data->Messages-> Purchase Order-> MN04-> Create
Now you create PO (ME21N) and save it. Go to ME22N and print the PO by giving output type.
Output of GR
After setting table, access sequence and output type for GR,run MB02 transaction, enter material document number. Double click one line item and select messages. Separate screen will be opened to configure outputs. Give the required fields and save the document. Now Run MB90, you can take printout. Output Type: WE03 or WE01 or WE02
Reward points if helpful
Thanks and regards
Ravikant Dewangan -
Output determination for Transfer Order(WMTORD)
Hi Friends,
My Requirement is to send an idoc to an external warehouse when i save Transfer Order.
For that i have created a Partner Profile with message type WMTORD.
When i save the transfer Order if the warehouse number and storage type matches to specific numbers then it has to trigger the given partner profile..for this usually we will do output determination.
Please help in doing the output determination for the above case..i know normal output determination procedure from NACE transaction.But warehouse mangement it would be defferent.please help me,,
Thanks a lot.
regards,
RavimachaHello Ravi,
I would like to generate an outbound idoc (using Message Determination/Control) when a delivery is created (via tcode VL01N). I created a Partner Profile with message type WMTORD.
In setting up the Partner Profile: Outbound Parameters, I didn't find a standard SAP Process Code. Did you find one, if so, what would that be?
(I've found process code WMT1 but it is for inbound.)
Thanks in advance,
Millie -
Output Determination For Posted Invoice
When an invoice is posted against a purchase order I need the system to create an IDOC for external transmission.
I already have a partner profile setup for the external party (vendor). How do I go about setting up the output determination?
Thanks - points will be rewarded.Hello, Brian
To setup the Output determination for Invoice Verification, follow the steps:
You can configure these settings through t.code: NACE
or NACT
By specifying the Application: MR (this is for INVOICE)
Select -> Application MR -> Press Output types
then -> Select your Output type
(choose LIEF, if Output is for External Vendor).
-> goto Details
then
-> choose the relevent fields in Default values Tab (i.e, mainly Dispatch TimeTransmission medium Ex: 5-External send and 6-EDI similarly Partner function Ex: VN-Vendor,etc )
then
-> Processing routines
-> Partner functions
Suggestion: You can use NACE or NACT (either)
Hope this will clarifies you,
Reward, if it helps,
Regards,
Srin.K -
Output determination for Sub-Shipment
Hello All,
I have a unique situation and need your inputs to identify possibilities in resolving it.
Here is the situation:
The transportation planning (TPE system) at our client is done by a 3rd party software. Now, we receive a Sales Order from a customer; create a delivery. TPE system creates the shipments and we PGI it and the sales order follows through the next steps. The shipments created from TPE go to Carriers and they carry the product from our warehouse to pool points from where customers pick it up. We have to pay the carriers from moving our goods from our warehouse to pool points. Thus whenever a shipment is created, we check-in...do the next steps in WM and finally when the shipment is ready, it triggers a payment IDOC to be sent to finance (an external system) so that it can be matched with Carrier invoices and then paid.
Our unique problem: There is a carrier (lets call it NCP) who is moving our goods from warehouse to pool point. We got a sales order from customer. This customer doesn't pick up goods from the pool point. He wants it to be delivered to his distribution center and to do this he is using the same transportation carrier (NCP). Thus when we received the sales order from customer, TPE system created a master shipment (5000001M) for NCP to pick up from our warehouse and deliver to pool point. You might be aware that TPE optimizes the route and thus combines multiple deliveries into one master shipment. From here NCP should pick up a part of the master shipment and deliver it to client. Thus SAP automatically created a sub-shipment (5000002S). This sub-shipment is a part of the master shipment and thus will not be separetely processed in WMS. The master shipment is checked-in, loaded and shipment ready - thus creating a payment IDOC to the external payee system. As the Sub-system is a part of master shipment, it is not touched and thus no payment IDOC is created.
Now the carrier sents two invoices - one for master to pick up goods from our warehouse and deliver it to pool point and the second one - to deliver a part of this shipment to customer's DC. Our payment system is unable to match it up with any IDOC's as we didn't send them out from SAP.
So this is where I'm struck. How should I configure the output for a sub-shipment so that it'll be triggered as soon as the delivery is PGI'ed? Could anyone give some inputs here?
Please let me know if more clarification is needed. Thanks in advance for looking into thisDear VGR,
Do the configuration settings for the shipment output determination through this IMG path
IMG>Logistics Execution>Transportation>Basic Transportation Functions>Output Control-->Maintain Output Determination for Shipments
-->Maintain Condition Tables
-->Maintain Output Types
-->Maintain Access Sequences
-->Assign Output Types To Partner Functions
-->Maintain Output Determination Procedure
-->Assign Output Determination Procedures
I wanted to send an EDI to carrier when my planning is done and email to customers when loading takes place.
For he above requirement you take help of ABAPer to develop the output program in such way and assign that program to your shipment output type.
Maintain the condition records through VV71 transaction with Transm. Medium EDI and Email
I hope this will help you,
Regards,
Murali. -
Output Determination Table Name
Hi,
In which table the Output Determination will be stored. and in which table the Partner Determination will be stored.
Regards,
sukumar.PDear sukumar
The Partner Determination Table: TVPG & TPAER
a. Screen field name:TVPG-PARGR
b. Screen field name:TPAER-PARVW
Regards,
MH -
Output determination for PR, RFQ, Contracts
Hello,
I want the detailed stepwise procedure for the output determination of PR, RFQ, Quotation Comparison and Contracts in SAP. I have to first check the std printout and then customize it as per clients requirement. Quick response would be very much appreciated.
Regards,
Prasanna.1. Check to what extent you can utilize the condition tables included
in the SAP standard system for message control.
2. If you want to create a new condition table, proceed as follows:
- Enter the name of the table you want to create. Note that you can only choose names between 501 and 999.
- If you are creating without referencing, enter the table category (e.g. pool table) for the condition table.
- Enter a description (title) for the condition table.
- From the list of allowed fields, choose the desired fields for the condition table.
- Generate the new condition table.
- Define the new condition tables.
3. Enter the condition tables in the access sequences ( The access sequence is a search strategy by means of which the SAP
system searches for valid message records.)
This way, you establish the link between message condition, access sequence and message record.
4. define a message type, you must enter the following:
Message type
Alphanumeric key of up to 4 characters, uniquely identifying a
message type.
Access sequence
Key for the access sequence.
Description
Text describing the message type.
Detail data (only the most important data is described):
- Transmission medium
One-character numeric key determining the type of message processing (e.g. printout, transmission as fax or e-mail).
- Time-spot
One-character numeric key defining the point in time at which message processing takes place (e.g. immediately a document is
saved or with the next selection run).
- Partner role
Partner role defining the recipient.
- Condition access
Indicator allowing you to specify that the default value for the relevant message is to be determined using the condition
The values entered in the detail data for transmission medium, time-spot, and partner role are automatically adopted as default
values when a message record of the relevant message type is created.
Set up fine-tuned control for each message type
For each type of message you create, you must specify the operations for which it is to be used.
For example: New (original) output, output of change notices, or output of urging messages (expediters).
First choose "Perform function" and then "Purchasing document ->
Purchase order -> Messages -> Fine-tuned control". You must do this for all purchasing documents.
5. Define your message determination schemas and assign them to the relevant purchasing documents.
A message determination schema contains the permissible message types for each message application (new printout, reminder, etc.). This allows the system to automatically suggest the associated messages as defaults in purchasing documents.
Only one schema and only one message type can be assigned to each purchasing document.
6. Specify which partner roles are allowed for the message type in connection with each individual purchasing document. -
Output determination for shipment types
Hi SD gurus,
I am new to SAP. I am unable to configure o/p for shipment documents. I wanted to send an EDI to carrier when my planning is done and email to customers when loading takes place. an some1 help me through this.
Thanks in advance.Dear VGR,
Do the configuration settings for the shipment output determination through this IMG path
IMG>Logistics Execution>Transportation>Basic Transportation Functions>Output Control-->Maintain Output Determination for Shipments
-->Maintain Condition Tables
-->Maintain Output Types
-->Maintain Access Sequences
-->Assign Output Types To Partner Functions
-->Maintain Output Determination Procedure
-->Assign Output Determination Procedures
I wanted to send an EDI to carrier when my planning is done and email to customers when loading takes place.
For he above requirement you take help of ABAPer to develop the output program in such way and assign that program to your shipment output type.
Maintain the condition records through VV71 transaction with Transm. Medium EDI and Email
I hope this will help you,
Regards,
Murali. -
Output determination for ordering address
Hi
In our business, more than one ordering address might be available for the same vendor. Therefore, we need to send Purchase Orders to different Ordering Address for the same vendor.Kindly help how to maintian the output determination for this.
-PrabuHi Prabhu
Output determination
What is output?
Output is communication. When we create a transaction in sales & distribution, and save the transaction we may have to communicate to the concerned business partner about the transaction.
Example;
Customer--Purchase Order-VA01 (Create sales Order)- save the sales order- send the order confirmation to the customer
Here the output is Order confirmation
This output is sent to business partner-Customer-Sold to Party
Other Examples: Quotation, Invoice, Delivery note, Packing List
Output determination happens through Condition Technique.
Condition records are very important here. And these records contain answers to following questions.
a) What is the Output Type? Order confirmation or Invoice etc
b) Who is the recipient? A Sold-to-party or Payer etc.
c) What is the media? Take print out and send, or as email? Or Fax? Or EDI (Electronic data Interchange)
d) When output to be processed? Immediately when the transaction saved or scheduled to happen at particular Time etc
e) In which language the output to be prepared
Customization:
IMGSDBasic functionsOutput Control
Output Determination
Output Determination using Condition technique
Maintain Output Determination for Sales Documents
Maintain output types
SAP provides standard Output types for sales, shipping, transportation and billing
Sales:
AF00 Inquiry
AN00 Quotation
BA00 Order
RD03 Cash sales invoice
Each of this condition type has Repository data called Routines
a) Program---Program that reads data from tables (VBAK / many tables storing data pertaining header etc)
b) Form routineProgram used for creating layout
c) Form---Layout
The Output type has an Access sequence
Example: BA00 has access sequence 0010
Access sequence uses sales document type as the field under table 7
SAP provides standard Procedures, Copy the procedure and assign it to the Sales document Type
Select maintain output determination procedure
Position V10000 (Order Confirmation)
Select V10000 and Copy as
ZV1000 Kirlosakr Order Confirmation
Save
Assign output determination Procedure
Allocate Sales Document Header
Position ZKOR
Sales document Type Procedure
ZKOR ZV1000
Save
Now maintain Condition Records
SAP menuLogisticsSales & DistributionMaster data-Output--sales document
Create VV11
Sales Doc=ZKOR
Partner function=SP
Media=1 Printout
Date=4 immediately when saving transaction
Lang=EN
Now select Communication Tab
Printer= A000 virtual Printer
Save the Record
Create an order and check the Order Confirmation
Create VA01
Save
VA02- sales documentissue output to
Select BA00 and select Print review to see the Output
Outputs for shipping processes customization carried out under Logistics Execution
IMG MenuLogistics executionShippingBasic shipping Functions-Output Control-Output determination---
Maintain output determination for outbound deliveries
Std Delivery outputs
LD00 Delivery document
PL00 Packing List
Follow the same procedure, like in sales, Copy the std Procedure and assign to respective documents like Delivery document etc
Output determination for Groups---Used for picking list generation
Output determination for handling unitsfor packing
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Regd:Error in Output determination for Delievry document
Hi,
we have set the output determination ~ Condition record for Ship-to-party Partner function for the delivery document.
The condn is set by using LAVA as the Output type and when we save the delivery doc, output is not getting triggered and when we try to enter the output details manually we get the below error
"Maintain outgoing EDI-connection data for partner XXXX " .
Could you please tell me what settings that I might have missed ?
RGds,
Vasanth.
Edited by: Vasantha Kumar Balasubramani on Jun 25, 2008 3:31 PMHi John & Sharath,
I have the partner profile defined in We20 for the Ship-To-Party for whom I am sending the delivery.I have set him as my customer(KU) in partner profile John.
Sharath, I know we have 2 EDI settings at VOE2 and VOE4 but both of them are for inbound messages. Could you please tell me what else EDI settings do i need to do ?
Thanks in advance.
RGds,
Vasanth.
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