Passive cooling of N/B (K7N2G-ILSR )

Hi,
I'm trying to build a (virtually) silent computer. I've noticed the K7N2G-ILSR has a heatsink/fan-combination to keep it cool. I was wondering if the heatsink/fan-combo can be detached from the mobo and replaced by a good heatsink like the Zalman NB32J http://www.atruereview.com/NB32J/index.php
Thanks in advance for your response.
grtz.
Tweakfreak

Tweakfreak,
I would not worry about the Northbridge Fan. You will not hear it outside your case.
Take Care,
Richard

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    I turn on my computer and fasttrack menu doesn`t show
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