PAT and 865PE NEO2

Does the 865PE NEO2 board support "Performance Acceleration Technology"?
Matt

See this link:
http://www17.tomshardware.com/motherboard/20030603/865_PAT-04.html#technology_in_detail_how_pat_functions_with_the_intel_865
Intel's PAT (intel made msi call it MAT) was intended for Canterwood 875 chipset only, but due to poor chip logic design on the 875, PAT can be fooled into operating on the 865 (springdale)which is a 'downgraded' or purposefully binned Canterwood.  The 865 was originally intended to capture a lower priced market segment of chipsets.  Intel originally claimed it (the springdale) also was the result of performance binning of the Canterwood.

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    Quote
    Originally posted by jwspicer
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