PATA secondary driving missing with SATA as boot drive

My 865PE gave a strange CMOS error yesterday, and now I need to reset the BIOS settings. My system boots from a SATA drive and has 1 PATA drive and 1 SATA drive as a auxillary drives. Using the recommended settings of:
Legacy Mode
PATA only
SATA keep YES
PATA Channel selection BOTH
SATA port defintion - P0-3rd/p1-4th
Allows system to see the CD & DVD drives, but not the PATA HD.
I've also tried:
Legacy & Native
SATA only
SATA keep YES
PATA Channel selection - Primary
SATA port defintion - P0-1st/p1-2nd?
Legacy & Native
SATA only
SATA keep YES
PATA Channel selection - BOTH
SATA port defintion - P0-1st/p1-2nd?
Legacy & Native
PATA only
SATA keep YES
PATA Channel selection - BOTH
SATA port defintion - P0-1st/p1-2nd?
None of these have helped. I hate this flippin' motherboard. Why is it so damn difficult to configure? What should these settings be??
Derek

try these
on chip native mode
ata config sata only
sata keep enabled yes
pata keep enabled yes
pata channel both
combined mode PO 1st / P1 2nd
you may have a HD failing also, test it with the manufactures diag progs, there downloadable.

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