Patch fundamantal questions

Yesterday I have installed a latest CPU completely different way. During my six month career in oracle I always install a patch by simply double click on setup and afterward run upgrade assistant which update oracle version. But yesterday I have install patch completely different way. I have download patch the first thing to note there is no OUI setup. Patch readme file used Opatch utility to install patch. I have stated working according to readme file instruction but soon I came to know that Opatch utility not install on my machine than I installed Opatch and than patch but all these working raised my question in my mind plz help me to clarify the concept
What are the different type of patch exist
What is the difference b/w patch that change version or also have OUI setup and patch which install through Opatch utility.
Can we use GUL interface instead of Opatch utility
Why did not run upgrade assistant after Installtion of patch
Why this CPU did not change version of database
How we check either patch install successfully or not (Most important question)

What are the different type of patch exist
Documented on Metalink
What is the difference b/w patch that change version or also have OUI setup and patch which install through Opatch utility.
Documented on Metalink
Can we use GUL interface instead of Opatch utility
Documented on Metalink
Why did not run upgrade assistant after Installtion of patch
See Question 1
Why this CPU did not change version of database
See Question 1
How we check either patch install successfully or not (Most important question)
Documented in the Readme.
Basically it boils down to the problem you still want everything delivered on a golden plate on your doorstep and still can't be bothered to read readily available documentation and go on abusing this Forum to abstract documentatiion you refuse to read.
Sybrand Bakker
Senior Oracle DBA

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Hi, two quick questions that I haven't been able to get answers to:
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2. I'm trying to figure out if I can use the 10.2.0.2 new client against a 10.2.0.1 repository. Don't see anything in the installation notes - does anyone know if this is possible?
Thanks!
Scott

Hello :)
Don't know the answer tot he first one.
As for the secong one - this is the extract from the documentation available as 'read me' for the patch:
To upgrade from a 9.2.x or 10.1.0.x version, first download and install Warehouse builder 10.2.0.1 into a new ORACLE_HOME.
Apply the 10.2.0.2 patch over the 10.2.0.1 ORACLE_HOME as described in the next section.
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Upgrading from Warehouse Builder 10.2.0.1
sorry i couldn't paste the entire document but if you go to the page where the patch is and then go to READ ME (which also lists what was fixed in this patch):
Looks like you need to upgrade to R2 first.
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Kind Regards
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DB :- 10.2.0.2
I was doing Patching from 10.2.0.2 to 10.2.0.4.
Before doing any patching i always take tar backup of binaries.
While doing Patching at some 30% i got error as below
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I tried searching all over but couldnt find much.
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Does it restores old binaries if new Patching fails?
Hope i have put it in proper words!!!!!!

Hi,
Welcome 2 Oracle Forums :)
I mean is OUI that much intelligent to not to touch original binaries until copying is done or Does it restores old binaries if new Patching fails?
No i don't think so. It will copy all the files in the $ORACLE_HOME, better check the Installation logfile of patchset.
It is highly recommended to take full backup of Database and $ORACLE_HOME before performing any upgrade.
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X A H E E R.

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Hi Matt,
Great question! The page you were looking at is for SR's and patches for the Callmanager 4.1 Train specifically and would not be loaded on the IPCC servers.
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Operating System Upgrade 2000.4.5a (win-OS-Upgrade-K9.2000-4-5a.exe)
Release date: 31-JULY-2007
Readme last updated: 30-JULY-2007
Information about This Service Release
The upgrade supports the following Cisco IP Telephony Applications that run on Windows 2000 Server or Advanced Server:
***Cisco CallManager and all compatible versions of Cisco IP Interactive Voice Response (IP IVR), Cisco IP Call Center Express (IPCC Express), Cisco IP Queue Manager (IP QM), Cisco Personal Assistant (PA), Cisco Emergency Responder (CER), Cisco Conference Connection (CCC), Cisco MeetingPlace, and Cisco Customer Voice Portal (CVP).
Minimum OS Requirements: (Fresh Install or Upgrade Versions of) - 2000.2.7, 2000.2.7a, 2000.4.1, 2000.4.1b, 2000.4.1c, 2000.4.2, 2000.4.3, 2000.4.3a, 2000.4.4, 2000.4.4a
http://download-sj.cisco.com/cisco/crypto/3DES/voice/cmva/win-OS-Upgrade-K9.2000-4-5a-Readme.htm
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Unified Communications Manager & Voice Apps Crypto Software
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/apps/tblbld/tablebuild.pl/cmva-3des?sort=release
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Hello all,
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xmlp - 5.6.3
ebs 11.5.10 cu2
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1) Is there any good documentation on this process , with the new patch in place,
other than the readme in the patch files ?
2) Now that we upload a control file, will that automatically set off the bursting process,
or do we have to make a specific call for the XDOBURSTREP program to run ?
3) is CUPS a mandatory install on our server ( HP-UX 11.11) for this process ?
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Hi all,
We are using Oracle 9.2.0.6 on RHEL4 64 bit
What is the use of CPU patch.Ealier we are using Sun Solaris server but after migrating to rhel, we are getting problem in one of the applicaion module.
but i don't know whether we are haing any cpu patch applied on the sun server.
and which patch should i applied for oracle 9.2.0.6 and how to apply it.
Does the steps to apply the CPU patch is same as it is applying the patchset of 9.2.0.6.
Please suggest me.

As CPU's are security patches (which you can get from Metalink), did you even consider visiting Metalink?
You would have found
https://metalink2.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/f?p=130:10:5691407109246679955::::ALLTEXT,ANYTEXT,EXCTEXT,NONTEXT,KNOWLEDGE,PRODUCT_ID,PLATFORM_ID,SS,ST,NUMHITS,FILTCRIT,FILTCRITVAL:CPU,,,,TRUE,,,0,DR,100,2,Support.CriticalPatchUpdates
Metalink answers all questions on CPU.
You should use available resources, as per the Forums Etiquette post, PRIOR to asking them here, forcing volunteers to summarize or abstract information which IS already on your doorstep.
And you would have noticed you need 9.2.0.8 to apply CPU's.
I also suggest you only ask questions after you have done some research. You shouldn't ask questions like this, and they don't deserve an answer. You can find the answer yourself with little effort.
You seem to think the only thing you need to know to work as a DBA is how to use this forum to ask all of your doc questions. You won't get far this way.
Sybrand Bakker
Senior Oracle DBA

Many Patch/Upgrade Questions/Processes for SAP Systems

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I am new to SAP and have done course in SAP-BASIS MODULE.
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I just started looking into weblogic server maintenance. New critical patch just went out.
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New new patch came out for Jrockit R28.2.4 and earlier version.
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12.1.3 running on RH Linux 5.8 and trying to apply PSU patch 17540582 on my 11.2 OH which is currently at 11.2.0.3.5.
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Oracle Interim Patch Installer version 11.2.0.3.6
Copyright (c) 2013, Oracle Corporation. All rights reserved.
PREREQ session
Oracle Home : /app/oracle/ebspatch/db/tech_st/11.2.0
Central Inventory : /app/oracle/ebspatch/db/tech_st/11.2.0/admin/oui/EBSPATCH_db6t/oraInventory
from : /app/oracle/ebspatch/db/tech_st/11.2.0/oraInst.loc
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ZOP-40: The patch(es) has conflicts with other patches installed in the Oracle Home (or) among themselves.
Prereq "checkConflictAgainstOHWithDetail" failed.
Summary of Conflict Analysis:
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13004894, 17540582, 12942119
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Conflict details:
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What if ,all of my patches in solaris10 05/08 there are not find following:
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Please help?
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Hi Hartmut,
I kind of got the idea. Just want to make sure. The zones 'romantic' and 'modern' show "installed" as the current status at cluster-1. These 2 zones are in fact running and online at cluster-2. So I will issue your commands below at cluster-2 to detach these zones to "configured" status :
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cluster-2 # zoneadm -z modern detach
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go back to cluster-2 and run the following commands to force these zones back to "installed" status :
cluster-2 # zoneadm -z romantic attach -f
cluster-2 # zoneadm -z modern attach -f
CORRECT ?? Please let me know if I am wrong or if there's any step missing. Thanks much, Humphrey
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