Patch release schedule
Hi,
Where can i see SAP's schedule for patch releases(date when a new patch level is expected to be released)?
thanks
Hi,
just in addition. Here's the most reliable and official link for
SAP BUSINESS ONE PATCH DELIVERY SCHEDULE:
Link: [http://channel.sap.com/sbo/patches] or equivalent
Link: [http://service.sap.com/smb/sbo/patches]
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Released Schedule Delivery lines display
Hi Gurus,
I have a scenario in my client place. User wants to display scheduled delivery lines which will sum all the released schedule delivery lines and will display the total quantity in a smart form which will be sent to the vendor. I.E Scheduling agreement Qty - 100. Schedule lines 10 Qty per day and it will hve 10 delivery lines(100Qty=10 qty per day x 10 days). output document will show only the total qty of released schedule lines(sum of all released qty).Is there any standard form/ output type available for this requirement.Kindly advice.As far as Db link is concern , I dont remember exactly , but 3 years before I had written a report which see Sales order schedule lines and devilry note lines against sales order. If you see process wise . when ever you create PO ( production order you assign some qty using 101 movement type .. and against production order you also give sales order . When you do delivery ( run seclude run ) it delivers against that material number , its movement is 601 ...
but I remember theres a link between these tables, VBAP,VBFA AND VBEP , LIPS ... against every sales order you can see sales invoice ( VBRP,VBRK) and you can also see your delivery note number in document flow .
I hope thisll give you some guide line, as right now I can not tell you the exact business process but I remember I written a report in SD 4 years before , in which they required Delivery against production order and sales order ... One more thing you also have production order reference on delivery item number. ( field :Empst ) . I think in my project they were maintaining this field .
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The patch can be found on metalink. The patch number is: 1841088.
Oracle9iAS Portal 3.0.9 Patch Release Notes
July 2001
Contents
For the latest release note updates, visit the Oracle Technology Network
and click the Documentation tab.
Installation and Setup Patch Contents
Installation (Windows) Bugs fixed by this patch
Installation (UNIX)
Post-installation steps
Installation (Windows)
You can only apply this patch to Release 3.0.9 of Oracle Portal
(Oracle9iAS v1.0.2.2). To apply this patch, do the following:
From the command line prompt, execute the patch command according to
the following syntax:
patch.cmd [-m patch_mode] [-s schema_name]
[-p schema_password] [-u sys_password]
-c connect_string [-l log_file_name]
-m patch_mode is the patch mode. Valid values are
loginserver or portalschema. Default value is
portalschema.
-s schema_name is the name of the Portal schema that you
want to patch. Default value is PORTAL30.
-p schema_password is the password of the schema you want
to patch. Default value is PORTAL30.
-u sys_password is the SYS Password. Default value is
CHANGE_ON_INSTALL.
-c connect_string is the TNS connect string information.
-l log_file_name is the name of the log file. Default value
is patch.log.
Examples:
To patch Login Server Only:
patch -m loginserver -s portal30_sso -p portal30_sso -u
change_after_install -c mydatabase -l mypatch.log
To patch Portal Schema Only
patch -m portalschema -s portal30 -p portal30 -u
change_after_install -c mydatabase -l mypatch.log
To patch both Portal Schema and Login Server
patch -m loginserver -s portal30_sso -p portal30_sso -u
change_after_install -c mydatabase -l mypatch.log
patch -m portalschema -s portal30 -p portal30 -u
change_after_install -c mydatabase -l mypatch.log
To complete the application of the patch, follow the instructions in
Post-installation steps.
Installation (UNIX)
You can only apply this patch to Release 3.0.9 of Oracle Portal
(Oracle9iAS v1.0.2.2). To apply this patch, do the following:
From the command line prompt, execute the patch command according to
the following syntax:
patch.csh [-m <patch_mode>] [<-l log_file_name>]
-m <patch_mode> is is the patch mode. Valid values are
loginserver, portalschema, or both. Default value is both.
-l log_file_name is the name of the log file. Default value
is patch.log.
Examples:
To patch Login Server only
patch.csh -m loginserver -l mypatch.log
To patch Portal Schema only
patch.csh -m portalschema -l mypatch.log
To patch both Portal Schema and Login Server
patch.csh -m both -l mypatch.log
patch.csh -l mypatch.log
To patch both Portal Schema and Login Server with default
log file
patch.csh -m both
patch.csh
To complete the application of the patch, follow the instructions in
Post-installation steps.
Post-installation steps
The bug fixes for bug numbers 1817550, 1830898, 1832632, 1840420, 1664594,
1810741, 1807325, and 1819442 are not installed via the patch script
because you must shut down your Web server prior to applying them. The
sections that follow describe how to apply these fixes.
JPDK.ZIP
On the Web server where the provider is running:
Unzip the contents of jpdk.zip into a directory (e.g., JPDK_30901).
Shut down your Web server.
Change your zone.properties file to include <extract
dir>/jpdk/lib/provider.jar in the wrapper.classpath.
If you are using Java Portal Development Kit (JPDK) samples from a
previous release of the JPDK, update your samples using those
included in the zip file. Refer to <extract dir>/installing.jpdk.html
for more details.
Restart your Web server.
Note: Refer to <extract dir>/release.notes.html for a list of changes made
in this release.
wwpage.jar
On the middle tier where the Portal listener is running:
Shut down your Web server.
Create a backup of your current wwpage.jar file.
Replace /$IAS_HOME/Apac he/Jserv/servlets/wwpage.jar with the new
wwpage.jar provided in this patch.
Restart your Web server.
New Parameters
The Parallel Page Engine now accepts two new parameters in the
zone.properties file:
minStall is the minimum stall value allowed for a contentfetcher
before it assumes there is a problem and times out. This value
defaults to 120 seconds. It was added to help upgrades from
308, which had a normal stall value of 40 seconds. The meaning
of stall has changed slightly, raising the need for a minimum
value.
minTimeout is the minimum timeout that may be sent by a
portlet. At times portlets send very small values, like 1
second. This almost always fails, and pages are rendered
incomplete. The minTimeout defaults to 5 seconds, but may be
set otherwise if this is not large enough. The minTimeout is
different from the requestTime. The requestTime is used when no
timeout value is sent for a portlet.
opca.jar
Back up your current opca.jar file, which is found in the
<IAS_HOME>/assistants/opca/ directory.
Copy the opca.jar file provided with this patch to the
<IAS_HOME>/assistants/opca/ directory.
To install the Portal repository, run the launch.bat (on NT) or
launch.sh (on Solaris) to invoke the Portal Configuration Assistant.
Follow the steps in the configuration assistant.
Oracle Portal Cache
Go to Oracle MetaLink and retrieve the patch for bug number 1817550.
Stop your Oracle HTTP Server.
Apply the patch you downloaded from Oracle MetaLink as per the
instructions in the README.txt file.
Login to your system as root and delete all cache files and
subdirectories under the directory
<IAS_HOME>/Apache/modplsql/cache/plsql. Make sure the directory
<IAS_HOME>/Apache/modplsql/cache/plsql is empty.
Start your Oracle HTTP Server.
Bugs fixed by this patch
This patch fixes the following known bugs:
Bug Number Bug Subject and Description
1817550 ON SOLARIS, WHEN RUNNING ON PORT 80, ORACLE PORTAL CACHE
GETS DISABLED
Due to a bug in the Oracle HTTP Server powered by Apache,
the Oracle Portal cache gets disabled when it is running
on port 80.
1819194 EXCEPTION THROWN IF A USER'S PASSWORD HAS AN AMPERSAND.
Special characters such as an ampersand (&) in passwords
or any text node that is sent to the Web providers were
causing errors.
1664594 XML TAGS IN THE JAVA STACK - CAUSING PARSER TO CRASH.
(Duplicate Bug: 1788506) Control characters were not
being properly escaped appropriately and causing errors
in the database SOAP parser.
1823166 PORTLET SECURITY IS RAISING AN ERROR FOR NON-ADMIN USERS
W/ ANY_PORTLET MANAGE.
1782458 NOT ABLE TO CREATE MASTER DETAIL REPORT.
1802055 308-309 UPGR: CLICKING ON "REFRESH ERROR" IN PORTLET
REPOSITORY GIVES ERROR.
1815257 UPGRADE: 306-309:308-309:SEARCH PEOPLE PORTLET: SHOWS
ERROR.
1744458 REPORTS FROM SQL: VALID SQL:GIVES AMBIGUOUS COLUMN ERROR
FOR JOINED TABLES.
1783257 REPORT COMPONENT AS PORTAL IN PAGE CAN'T BE ASSOCIATED
WITH TAB.
1801961 UPGRADE:307-309:ADD PORTLETS REGION IS SHOWING UP VERY
SLOW.
1807325 FETCHERS TIMEOUTS, AND PORTLET PRODUCED AN ERROR.
This bug pertains to a synchronization issue in the 3.0.9
fetching of portlet content. The Document could not be
contacted error is randomly raised. However, it may be
that other problems are causing this error. This bug only
refers to the synchronization issue in which the Parallel
Page Engine causes the problem.
1810741 PROVIDER USER DOES NOT DETECT PUBLIC USER CORRECTLY.
Previously, the JPDK did not correctly detect if the
current user was logged in or accessing the portal using
a public session. This bug also affected providers
registered with a login frequency of PUBLIC. Failure to
detect the logged in state of the user correctly caused
ProviderUser.isPublicUser() to return an incorrect value
when a provider written using JPDK release 3.0.9 was used
with earlier releases of Oracle9iAS Portal.
The most common symptom of thi s error is the Customize
link being shown to public users when the provider
definition specified that it should be hidden. A new
username parameter has been added so the JPDK can
correctly detect the logged in state of users while
maintaining backwards compatibility with older versions
of Oracle9iAS Portal.
1811275 GROUP NAME IS REPEATED IN LIST OF GROUPS IN SPANISH,
FRENCH ETC.
1812018 PERSPECTIVES ARE REMOVED FROM ITEMS IF THEY ARE EDITED.
1815037 OPCA HANGS AT 90%
Oracle Portal Configuration Assistant hangs at 90% during
the Oracle9iAS 1.0.2.2 installation.
1819442 PROVIDE MINTIMEOUT FOR PPE TO OVERRIDE SMALLEST
TIMEOUT(S).
Previously, there were no minimum values for timeouts.
The fix for this bug adds some minimum values for
timeouts and changes the defaults such that the Parallel
Page Engine works better without any configuration by the
user. These changes help to prevent getting the Portlet
could not be contacted error message.
1830898 SSOUNLCK.SQL DOESN'T UNLOCK SSO USER ACCOUNT.
1832632 BITMAP INDEXES IN EXPORT-IMPORT FAIL TO INSTALL ON ORACLE
8I STANDARD.
1833509 SITE MANAGER BUGS FOR CATEGORY, ITEMTYPE, FOLDERTYPE, AND
PERSPECTIVE.
This bug covers the following:
Showing the category popup correctly when you hide
categories.
Same Banner appears more than once while rendering.
All Item Types show up when you create Custom Item
Types.
All Folder Types show up when you create Custom
Folder Types.
No data found error occurs in perspective list of
content area manager.
All item types get hidden when you hide different
item types in different content areas.
Categories are not displayed appropriately when you
go into content areas of default languages other
than "us."
Minor issues with Bulk action.
1840420 CUSTOM WRITTEN EXTERNAL AUTH MODULE NEED TO BE UPDATED
AFTER 3.0.9 UPGRADE SSOXOID.PKB DOESN'T LOAD.
External authentication modules that were written before
3.0.9 need to be updated after upgrading to 3.0.9.
ssoauthx.pks is updated in 3.0.9 and contains additional
routines that need to be implemented.
nullRichard,
I have just applied patch to upgrade from Portal 3.0.9 to 3.0.9.8.1 (Patch applied to loginserver and portal schema) and the External Applications that were previously set up have gone from the portlet.
Does this relate to your note at the bottom:
"Minor issues with Bulk action. 1840420 CUSTOM WRITTEN EXTERNAL AUTH MODULE NEED TO BE UPDATED AFTER 3.0.9 UPGRADE SSOXOID.PKB DOESN'T LOAD.
External authentication modules that were written before 3.0.9 need to be updated after upgrading to 3.0.9. ssoauthx.pks is updated in 3.0.9 and contains additional routines that need to be implemented." ??
If I go to the "Login Server Administration" portlet and select the link "Administer External Applications" I get a list of 5 External Applications that have previously been set up.
If I go back to the Home Page and select "customize" on the "External Applications" portlet I get the message "Your Login Server administrator has not registered any external applications".
Does that mean I should just run 'ssoauthx.pks' & 'ssoxoid.pkb' or do I need to do something else ??
Thanks
Simo -
Released schedule line in firm zone changed in the background
Hi
I need to understand why and how a Released schedule line in firm zone can be changed in the background?If the qty is not transmitted to the vendor using message transmission, system does not firm the qty with in planning time fence.
So pls chk your planning time fence as well.
Also pls chk the below link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/f4/7d2a5b44af11d182b40000e829fbfe/content.htm
BR,
Krishna -
Patch Release: Berkeley DB Java Edition 4.0.117
Berkeley DB Java Edition 4.0.117
http://www.oracle.com/us/products/database/berkeley-db/index.html
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/berkeleydb/overview/index.html
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/berkeleydb/overview/persistence-160890.html
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/berkeleydb/overview/index-093405.html
Berkeley DB Java Edition 4.0.117 is a patch release consisting of many important fixes. We strongly recommend that users of the 4.0.x upgrade to this release. Those using 4.1.x need not be concerned with this patch release.
The critical patch fixes:
[#19422] - Fixes a bug that prevents recovery if CacheMode.EVICT_BIN is used.
The complete list of changes is in the change log page.
http://download.oracle.com/otndocs/products/berkeleydb/html/je/je-40117-changelog.html
Product documentation can be found at:
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E17277_02/html/index.html
Download the source code including the pre-compiled JAR, complete documentation, and the entire test suite as a single package.
http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/je-4.0.117.zip
http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/je-4.0.117.tar.gz
Common questions are addressed in our FAQ that you can find here:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/database/berkeleydb/je-faq-096044.html
Then join OTN and participate in the Berkeley DB JE Support Forum discussions. Our engineering and support staff are highly active on these forums, if you have questions please ask them there first.
Berkeley DB Java Edition
For further information, or questions about licensing and sales of JE, please contact us at:
mailto:[email protected]
Thank you for your support of Berkeley DB Java Edition.Hi Kristoffer,
We have never updated Maven central -- I think someone else, perhaps who is reading the forum, did that for 5.0.73. We should update it, but we don't quite have our act together on that. Hopefully we'll have more info on that soon, but for now you'll need to just copy the jar file or use the Oracle maven repo.
You should definitely read the release notes and the change log, and decide whether to upgrade.
BDB has both a commercial and an OSS license. Due to Oracle policy BDB does not have some of the things you might expect from an OSS project:
- bug system is not exposed
- roadmap is not published
- code contributions are fairly rare, mostly due to the nature of the code -- it's a database engine, and is fairly difficult to change casually.
What other questions about the process do you have? I wasn't sure exactly what you wanted to know.
--mark -
Hi Everyone,
We thank everyone for bringing to our notice some issues that has happened with the recent player and our sdk update. We have identified a server side issue for this and we are in process of fixing it. This will fix issues such as
a) Starting screen share second time after stopping not working
b) no publisherID text in the sample.
and some more.
Since it's a server side problem, giving out client side swc won't help. We will have a patch release around 10th December with these fixes and some more. We thank you for your patience and continued support to the community.
Thanks
Regards
LCCS TeamDidn't mean to mark this post as a question so....marking it as answered.
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FOR ORACLE XML TEAM -- XML TOOLS BUG FIXING POLICY/RESPONSE TIME/RELEASE SCHEDULE
Hi,
The release of Oracle XML tools and utilities by Oracle XML team is a significant milestone and is definitely appreciated. However, as part of a large organization, some factors need to be clarified before using these utilities in production softwares.
I have noticed that XML parsers and other utilities are now coming as part of other softwares like JDeveloper etc. Following are my questions to the Oracle XML team and urgent and prompt reply will be greatly appreciated.
1. What is the XML tools support policy. Is it only OTN? Can we buy support? Are these utilities supported if large organizations have corporate server licenses. I have read at the XML site the XDK is fully and freely supported by Oracle Word Wide support. What does this mean?
2. What is the release schedule for the XML tools?
3. What is the response time?
Once again, your help and prompt reply will be appreciated.
Thanks.As you noted many of the Oracle XDK components are production. This means that if your company has an Oracle Server Support contract you will get the corresponding level of support for the production XDK components.
If you don't have one, then OTN is your support resource. We will also have standalone support agreements in the future which you can purchase through the Oracle Store. The response time would be the same as for the server.
There is not a specific release schedule for components on OTN as they have different development schedules.
Oracle XML Team
null -
What is the best site for Safari release schedules
My group has the responsibility for performing browser compatibility testing. I am looking for the best site for tracking Safari release schedules, so we might be able to plan our testing cycles using the latest Safari versions for Windows and Mac. Can anyone point me to the best site for this information?
https://developer.apple.com
The best resource for all Mac development.
Apple has ended support for Safaro for Windows so you can scratch that off your list. -
Announcement : New SPS Patch Release (v 6.0.3) Now Available
A newer release of Service Provisioning System (version 6.0.3) is now available for download on sunsolve
The Release Notes for this release are available here and is a good place to start.
{color:#0000ff}*You are strongly encouraged to go through the Release Notes AND the README instructions of all the patches thoroughly before starting your patch installations.*{color}
The following are the key changes that were incorporated in this release.
1) A fix in the SPS transport layer code was implemented to provide performance optimization of deployment jobs over a raw, SSH or SSL connection. Specifically, customers using an SSL connection between MS and the RA/LD nodes can observe noticeable performance improvements while deploying large payloads.
2) A fix was also added to correct the default database encoding for customers who want to use extended ASCII character sets. This would not only facilitate clean database migration between 5.2 to 6.0 of any UTF-8 characters, but also ensure data integrity on fresh 6.0 installation. It's strongly recommended that customers take necessary steps to apply this fix on their SPS 6.0 installations.
3) Certain GUI related bugs were fixed and some missing functionality was added back.
4) It is to be noted that this is a cumulative patch on top of the earlier patch release version 6.0.2. Hence all the bug fixes that were delivered with the 6.0.2 patch are also accumulated into the 6.0.3 patch
5) Response time of GUI login validation has been improved.another option would be to make either the n1sps export not writing explicit end tags
<element />
instead of
<element></element>
or
making the import / schema a bit less sensitive about whitespace within elements. The current bug, that you cannot export the xml, reformat in netBeans and then re-import is extremely annoying. -
Refer to Doc ID 825030 which talks about applying of patch for correction of date format in web adi. Is this patch can be applied on R12.1.3 instance as this patch released date is very old. Please suggest if there is another patch which be applied to correct the date format in web adi. currently the date is coming in number format.
Hello,
This document is for 11i Date Format Changes When Loaded Into Webadi (Doc ID 825030.1)
use this document instead for R12 : Incorrect Date Format in Excel Sheet Generated Via WebADI (Doc ID 828253.1)
<Moderator Edit - deleted MOS Doc content - pl do NOT post such content>
Best Regards,
Eric. -
Plans for Soa Suite 10.1.3 patch releases
Hi Experts
We have customer who has 10.1.3 license and they are on 10.1.3.5.0 patchset. We are helping them with some implementation .
On the OTN I see the last release of 10.1.3 soa suite patch set was 10gR3 PS3 (10.1.3.5.0). Can you please answer following queries
1. How long oracle plans to support 10.1.3 release
2. When can we expect the next patch release for 10.1.3 soa suite
3. Does oracle helps to support a customer with the critical bug fix
4. Does Oracle help to Processor Perpetual license by providing a bugfix or patch fixes
Regards
Vipin R.S
Edited by: 975550 on Dec 24, 2012 2:54 AMHi , I am facing the same issue.
were you able to resolve it.
please let me know if you were.
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Oracle9iAS Portal Patch Release 3.0.9.8.3 For Solaris is now available for download from metalink. Bugnumber for the patch release is 2131815.
You must install this patch release over an Oracle9iAS 1.0.2.2 installation of Oracle9iAS Portal. You can install it over either a production installation (3.0.9.8.0) or a patched installation (3.0.9.8.1, 3.0.9.8.2). This patch release is cumulative and it incorporates the changes from the earlier patches (3.0.9.8.1, 3.0.9.8.2). The installation instructions are in README.TXT and RELNOTES.HTM contained in the patch release.
The patch will be available for other platforms by the end of May.I saw this warning in the content area API home page.
Warning - The Content Area APIs available in 3.0.8.x and 3.0.9.x will not work with Oracle9iAS Portal 9.0.2. They are not available with this release
Will there be other API's?
Are you removing the concept of loading an item through APIs?
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Harish -
New patch releases: JE 5.0.48 and 4.1.20
All,
Please note that new patch releases for JE 5.0 and 4.1 are now available.
The JE 5.0.48 update contains a number of critical bug fixes that can cause corruption (data loss) under certain circumstances. We strongly recommend that anyone using JE 5 upgrade immediately to 5.0.48. This update also contains fixes for issues that prevent upgrading to JE 5 from an earlier release, or cause problems after upgrading.
Note that running the pre-upgrade utility is mandatory before upgrading to JE 5 from an earlier release, and the pre-upgrade utility must be run using JE 4.0.20. The JE 4.0.20 update contains fixes to the pre-upgrade utility as well as one critical bug fix. See the first section in the JE 5.0.48 change log for detailed information on upgrading and running the pre-upgrade utility.
We'd like to thank all the users who reported problems and especially those who worked with us over email, in some cases for long periods of time, to diagnose problems and test fixes. Some, but not all, of those who helped are mentioned in the change log. Thank you for contributing to the reliability of the product!
Complete information can be found in the JE documentation. The release is available via the download site or Maven.
--markHi,
the biggest problem is that we are using bought application not made in our company. I have tried out this java application with JRE 1.4 and 1.5 and it just doesn't work. So the only solution is using JRE 1.3 on all intranet computers. This application uses digital certificate so why doesn't Sun allow digital signet java programs to run on older versions of JRE?
There could also be one more solution. I exactly know md5sum (or sha1sum) of 3 JAR files used by applet needing JRE 1.3. So if this sum would be enabled manualy (or I could send batch file to make this in registry or any other storage this would be good).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Md5sum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sha1sum
Thanks,
Grofaty -
Some patches are going to happen in R3 development system .This effects the BW plug-ins meaning some data extractors will need testing.
Here I want to know how to Identify which extractors are effected based on the patch release notes .
Can anybody please give detailed information regarding this.
Could anyone provide me the patch release notes numbers.
Thanks
Padma.Hi ,
visit this site:
https://websmp210.sap-ag.de/notes
you can serch all the notes.
Regards
Rahul -
Official Nokia C7 PR1.1 Release Schedule
As with N8, we now have the C7 Release Schedule available for you. This list will be updated regularly with release timings for different countries and variants. So, if you’re not sure about the availability for your phone, just take a look at the list.
Status: 13th April 2011
The release schedule for C7 PR1.1 is attached as an Excel file.
To check the Software Update availability for your phone, please first search for your country and then have a look for your specific productcode. (Your productcode information can be found by typing *#0000# on your C7.)
Status "Published" means that the software update is available for download
via your C7 (use Menu > Applications > Tools > SW Update > tick C7-00 Device Update and then follow the on screen prompts) or
via PC (connect your phone via USB and use OviSuite).
If you need more instructions just post here and we'll assist you.
Status "In creation" means your version is currently with our software teams. We can't give a specific day here, but you can switch on the automatic software update check in your phone (via Menu > Applications > Tools > SW Update > Options > Settings > Auto-check for updates) and your C7 will prompt you as soon as the new software is available. Please be aware that there may be delays for your code if pre-release testing highlights an issue that needs to be resolved prior to release.
Any questions, just ask us!
Yvonne
Attachments:
C7 PR1 1 & PR1.2 status (130411).xls 70 KBOk, I'll answer one by one:
- Week07 is the calendar week, meaning it will be released this week when it's listed as "in creation"
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