Path to become a DBA

Hi buddies,
I do have something crawling in my mind.
Would like to know whats the path to become a DBA. I did my OCP around one year ago in Oracle 9i DBA track.
Now working as a database executive, where my job task is to provide support for the client in generating reports, counts, batch load and many many more things in maintaining the database. I also spent 20 % of my working time in PL/SQL, web PL SQL, and so on.
My SQL has improved dramatically.
I have been here for 6 months.
Is this a way to become a DBA as well?
Is there a lot more to learn being in this track? I believe being strong in SQL is equally important for a DBA but its just my perception. Please do comment. I am not doing anything to do with DBA tasks except for small things like creating tables, job scheduler and so on.
I am a completely different person now compared to when I stepped in. I have worked before but nothing to do with Oracle.
Please advice. Is this how we start off to become a DBA or am I totally in a wrong track?
Hope to hear from all of you.
Thank You so much.

user645399 wrote:
Hi buddies,
I do have something crawling in my mind.
Would like to know whats the path to become a DBA. I did my OCP around one year ago in Oracle 9i DBA track.
Now working as a database executive, where my job task is to provide support for the client in generating reports, counts, batch load and many many more things in maintaining the database. I also spent 20 % of my working time in PL/SQL, web PL SQL, and so on.There's a good indication that a job title can mean anything at all . . . and nothing at all. In my part of the world, the term 'executive' automatically means someone above mid-management level. (and even that is not a precise description) Certainly not someone who does the low-level work you describe. A "database executive" calls to my mind something akin to a CIO.
>
My SQL has improved dramatically.
I have been here for 6 months.
Is this a way to become a DBA as well?
Is there a lot more to learn being in this track? I believe being strong in SQL is equally important for a DBA but its just my perception. Please do comment. I am not doing anything to do with DBA tasks except for small things like creating tables, job scheduler and so on.
I am a completely different person now compared to when I stepped in. I have worked before but nothing to do with Oracle.
Please advice. Is this how we start off to become a DBA or am I totally in a wrong track?
Hope to hear from all of you.
Thank You so much.You might want to review these threads:
Re: difference between Oracle Apps DBA and Oracle ERP Consultant
Re: Future of Oracle DBA
I'm always amused and confused by questions about career that seem to indicate a beliefe that one punches certain tickets then applies for a job description that somehow magically matches. DBA (no matter how you describe it as "core", "apps", "executive" or whatever) is not an entry level position. Anyone who hires someone into a DBA position without some proof of real-world experience is not a company I'd want to work for. So, one gets into a DBA position by doing a good job at what they are currently doing, develop a good working relationship with the DBAs there, show an aptitude and let it be known what you are doing on your own (self study, practice on you own system, etc). An opportunity should eventually present itself. In my own career, beyond my initial job in a designated 'trainee' position, I've never sought out a change of job responsibilities ... they always came to me by the process described in one of the threads referenced above.

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811561 wrote:
HI everyone,
I am wanting to start my journey to become a DBA.
I do not want to take any shortcuts and want to do this the best way possible. I realize this will take years, but I am stubborn and determined , no matter what I do. Stubborn and determined is a substantial portion of the requirements! Another portion is to be able to instantly change to flexible and open-minded.
>
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On 8/26/2010 4:06 PM, chayden wrote:
>
> Have several users pending waiting for policy paths to become
> accessible.
> any ideas?
> The dirs are being created in the right paths. but no quotas are set
> etc.
>
>
> NSM 2.5.2
>
>
> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 240279 Go: lleos.STU.HAC.HS.HISD Waiting for Policy
> Paths to become accessible
> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 240279 E372 Begin SetPolicy:<lleos.STU.HAC.HS.HISD>
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> <smonte.STU.HAC.HS.HISD>
> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 240289 FSFSetPolicy: Home directory
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> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 234461 E372 Begin SetPolicy:
> <aromer.STU.HAC.HS.HISD>
> 08/26 14:24:01 0: 232420 DirRestriction: ERROR NWSetDirSpaceLimit:
> 89FF
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> 89FF
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> 89FF
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> 89FF
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> status=8110
> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 234256 E372 End SetPolicy:<rmonci.STU.HAC.HS.HISD>
> status=8110
> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 240288 E372 End SetPolicy:<smonte.STU.HAC.HS.HISD>
> status=8110
> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 234461 E372 End SetPolicy:<aromer.STU.HAC.HS.HISD>
> status=8110
> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 240117 E372 End SetPolicy:<dreyes2.STU.HAC.HS.HISD>
> status=8110
> 08/26 14:24:01 2: 240279 E147 A new directory for
> <lleos.STU.HAC.HS.HISD> cannot be created in any of the defined policy
> paths.
> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 240279 E372 End SetPolicy:<lleos.STU.HAC.HS.HISD>
> status=8055
> 08/26 14:24:01 2: 241007 E147 A new directory for
> <akeyse.STU.HMS.MS.HISD> cannot be created in any of the defined policy
> paths.
> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 241007 E372 End SetPolicy:<akeyse.STU.HMS.MS.HISD>
> status=8055
> 08/26 14:24:01 2: 240172 E147 A new directory for
> <mroble1.STU.MHS.HS.HISD> cannot be created in any of the defined policy
> paths.
> 08/26 14:24:01 4: 240172 E372 End SetPolicy:<mroble1.STU.MHS.HS.HISD>
> status=8055
> 08/26 14:24:02 4: U_Mgr PerformQueueMaint: mroble1.STU.MHS.HS.HISD move
> action to READY
> 08/26 14:24:02 4: U_Mgr PerformQueueMaint: lleos.STU.HAC.HS.HISD move
> action to READY
> 08/26 14:24:02 4: U_Mgr PerformQueueMaint: smonte.STU.HAC.HS.HISD move
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> 08/26 14:24:02 4: 240288 E372 Begin SetPolicy:
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> 08/26 14:24:02 4: 232420 E372 Begin SetPolicy:
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Best, in my opinion, is to get developer experience. And learn the core of Oracle. Read many books, especially by anyone from the Oak Table (http://www.oaktable.net). Know the contents of all of Tom Kyte's books off by heart (see http://apress.com), and be able to reproduce any of the performance analysis scenarios he discusses, and variants, on demand.
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In contrast, developers tend to 'flit'. [flit derived from butterly fluttering.] They are detailed enough to get the current project done, then fly to the next. The idea of maintenance , long term associaton with a specific project, evaluating every aspect of 'that code' to get the best performance, and doing so year-after-year is generally not a developer trait.

Experienced Oracle DBA want to become Apps DBA and need guidence

Hi Apps Gurus,
I am an experienced Core Oracle DBA having 7 years of experience in Oracle Database Administration. I have always been interested in Apps DBA but never got suffient time to pick that up. This time I have taken a months's leave to be able to spend time and gather Apps DBA knowledge. I need a thorough knowledge in Apps including the very basics and architechture. I dont want to jump into advanced skills without having my basics strong. Please guide me with steps/milestones to be identified and achieved. I would appreciate if somebody can give me an idea regarding how much time it generally takes to pick up to a level where the candidate can work as an Apps DBA.
Any suggestion and guidence is appreciated.
Thanks.
A.D

Hi AD,
I am looking for the same thing here, after doing 6 years of Core DBA job, i was looking to have some aaps dba exposure, but still could not find any thing except some ebooks, let me know if you find some thing ................
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Quest for OCA DBA Cert

I'm seeking help from anyone willing to provide it. A little background here, I'm 24 with a BS majoring in Political Science and a Minor in Computer Information Systems (CIS). My CIS classes included a semester about SDLC and a class focusing on Oracle Databasing, working with 10g for the semester. I also have some background in Visual Basic programming, completing two semesters of that.
I'm currently working in the Information Assurance field with 2 years experience and a Security+ cert from CompTIA. However, I've become exhausted (read: bored) in my field and would like to make a career change to something more hands on. I figure that I enjoyed my work getting my minor in CIS, especially my class on databasing, and that I could shoot for an OCA DBA certification and make a career change, and from there seek the OCP.
I guess my question is this: from everyone's experiences, what are your thoughts on my prospects of landing a job with an OCA DB and no real experience? I would have no problem being a junior DBA since I still have plenty of time to advance through my career. I am also under the assumption that it would be best to look for a job with a small company that may need one person to cover multiple tasks.
Am I delusional in thinking that I could make this jump, or is there a chance for me to get my Cert and move on to a new career path?
Thanks to anyone in advance for advice.

In general in the US, there aren't a whole lot of positions for junior DBAs. Most tasks that you could potentially hand off to a junior DBA are things that Oracle has automated or things that can be done with shell scripts or database jobs.
There are three relatively common paths to becoming a DBA. The first option is to start as a developer that specializes in the database side of things and to transition into a more DBA-type role often going through a development DBA role. The second option is to start of a "jack of all trades" at a smaller company that handles database administration, system administration, web servers, etc. The third ption is to start as a systems admin and transition into more of a database administration role.
If you're looking for an entry-level job, my bias would be to suggest that you look for a database developer role with a larger company or to look for a "jack of all trades" position with a smaller company.
Justin

Job openings

hi all,
Good day...
I have seen lot of friends here asking how the oracle dba work will be..how to get junior dba position..Guess here all the Guru's are holding a senior or director level position in their organization..It will be greatly helpful for us if we know the job openings...Not sure if i can ask this question in discussion forum..Yet i posted it..Apologies...
thanks,
baskar.l

Hi baskar;
I have seen lot of friends here asking how the oracle dba work will be..how to get junior dba position..Guess here all the Guru's are holding a senior or director level position in their organization..It will be greatly helpful for us if we know the job openings...Not sure if i can ask this question in discussion forum..Yet i posted it..Apologies...
This forum uses by many user which are senior,junior,newbee,developer etc.. By the way you can send below links to your friend which want to become dba or dba can earn good or this job is better than other.Please follow below and see its helpful:
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Helios

Guidance to become a Oracle 10g DBA

Hai...
I m a lecturer in an Engineering college.I want to change my job as i m interested in DBA. So i have joined a course in Oracle 10g DBA through Oracle University,which will be starting on 25th june.Can anyone guide me how to go abt it, so dat i can prepare well for interviews n place myself in a gud company.Also plz let me knw which has gud scope,DBA or Data warehousing.

Hi,
My list of Oracle DBA job skills include the following:
Excellent communication skills - The Oracle professional is the central technical guru for the Oracle shop. He or she must be able to explain Oracle concepts clearly to all developers and programmers accessing the Oracle database. In many shops, the Oracle DBA is also a manager and is required to have excellent communication skills for participating in strategic planning and database architectural reviews.
Formal education – Many employers require Oracle professionals to have a bachelor’s degree in computer science or information systems. For advanced positions such as an Oracle DBA, many employers prefer a master’s degree in computer science or a master’s in business administration (MBA).
Real-world experience - This requirement is the catch-22 for newbie’s who possess only an OCP certificate. A common complaint of people who have OCP certificates but no job experience is that they cannot get experience without the OCP, and they cannot get a job without experience. This is especially true in a tight job market.
Knowledge of database theory - In addition to mastering the technical details required for the OCP exams, the successful Oracle professional must have an understanding of database and data warehouse design. This includes intimate knowledge of data normalization theory and knowledge of star schema design, as well as object-oriented modeling with Unified Modeling Language (UML) and knowledge of other database design methodologies such as CORBA and J2EE.
Here is my list of DBA job skills:
http://www.dba-oracle.com/oracle_tips_dba_job_skills.htm
Here are notes on becoming a DBA:
http://www.dba-oracle.com/t_how_to_become_an_oracle_dba.htm
Can anyone guide me how to go abt it, so dat i can prepare well for interviews n place myself in a gud company.First n foremost, show dat you have gud communications skills.
Hope this helps. . .
Donald K. Burleson
Oracle Press author

Become Expert Oracle Apps DBA

HI, gurus,
i am new to oracle application dba, but wants to sharpen my skills and experience in the field. Please can anyone help me with documentations good enough to start with.
Thanks.

Please see old threads for similar discussion.
How to become Apps DBA
http://forums.oracle.com/forums/search.jspa?threadID=&q=How+to+become+Apps+DBA&objID=c3&dateRange=all&userID=&numResults=15&rankBy=10001
All Oracle Apps documentation can be found at:
Applications Releases 11i and 12
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/documentation/applications-167706.html
Thanks,
Hussein

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