Payment engine, bank charge and outgoing payment

Hi expert !
My customer wants to generate foreign outgoing payment, with Payment Wizard.
We're french, so I created payment mode, and I choosed File format : SAPBPFROPBT_AFB_FO
In case of outgoing payment file protocol, we must specify who paid Bank charge :
13 : supplier
14 : half us, half supplier
15 : us
By default, Payement engine's generate file with bank charge = 14. And, of course, my custommer wants bank charge = 13.
I wrote bank charge = 13 on BP Master Data, and I can See bank charge = 13 in OPEX table (I try all fields - InstruckKey - pymKeyCode - PeyRefDTLS - and of course PYLBCACode).
But Payment engine still generate a file with bank charge = 14.
In payment engine Help, customizing bank charge is explained for all regional options, but not for france.
Please, do you know how can I have a file with bank charge = 13 ?
Thanks,
Pierre-yves

Hi,
Bank charges and Overdraft fees will not be an open item account.
But your bank clearing account will be an open item account.
Error may be due to the incorrect posting rule defined.
Regards
SM

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[Business One in Action - How can we post bank fees and charges while posting Incoming or Outgoing Payment transactions?|http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/index?rid=/library/uuid/b08e828f-f2d0-2c10-41b1-dbb0b9943ee8]
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