PB G4 (2002) adequate for photo-editing now?

I bought a G4 for college in 2002, used it for a year and a half, and then boxed it up (idiotic, I know). Now, my wife would like to start some heavy-duty photo editing using the latest photoshop. Can the G4 handle this or do we need to look at newer models? I'm willing to put in several hundred to try to get the powerbook up to snuff, but I don't want to throw money away on a machine that will ultimately be inadequate. Thanks!

jake723 wrote:
I bought a G4 for college in 2002...heavy-duty photo editing using the latest photoshop.
OK, so 2002 means that computer is going to behave like any other computer that is nearly an entire decade old. It won't cut it. Well, you could probably edit JPEGs of a few megapixels with it, but the G4 is too weak to do today's bulk processing of 10+ megapixel raw photos with something like Aperture or Photoshop.
As far as the resale value of the G4, you might get a couple hundred if you're lucky, but the reality is that anybody who wants to watch YouTube or HD video will be very frustrated with a G4. So much of today's software assumes you've got 2 or more fast CPU cores, that the G4 can't handle it.
The G4 is still very useful for Microsoft Office, Web and email, a DVD player, or iTunes music server. But the software support is slowly going away, so you can use fewer and fewer of the latest versions of anything.

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