PC for prem CS5? GTX 480, which brand? Shuttle?

Hi
I'm trying to decide for a graphics card and PX-box for premiere CS5.
I'm considering bying the GTX 480
There are some different makers of that card:
MSI, Gainward, ASUS, EVGA
Any suggestions why I should select one manufacturer before the other?
I see EVGA has some superclocked versions.... any thoughts about those?
I'm also considering buying the Shuttle SX58J3 SFF computer, support up to 16GB memory, LGA1366 Socket, Intel X58 Express, up to 4 SATA-300 disks.
Reason for this choice is that I want to be able to take the PC with me without to much hassle.
This comes standard with a 500W PS, but I belive I should be able to put in another more powerful PS... e.g. a 600W one.
Or is this a bad choice?
I7 CPU:
2.8 GHz or 3.2 GHz ?
Any suggestions on which CPU and number of cores, will I notice that much difference between 2.8 and 3.2?
I'm to edit footage from Canon 5D MK II.

As for your original post, Shuttle is out of the question - buy a nice asus MB - they will all be pretty much the same for the i7.
I took an HP 180 (I7 975 8 thread quad duo core proc, put 24 GB of ram in it (at hp's expense) then yanked out their GTX-200 that came stock and put a GTX-480 from EVGA.
The GTX480 uses ALOT of power. When I say ALOT I mean 3 ea SLI cables - not one or two like most cards. So my 4xsli corsair 850W ps BARELY got ONE GTX 480 running in this system, but it is running very stable, and premiere pro plus media converter just rip through avchd like nobody's business (my other PC estimated a week to transcode a couple of hours of avchd video from a canon hfs-10 camera shot at 24mbps 1080x1920. It was a quad core 2.83 Ghz system with an SLI card) - I just gave my new machine that task, the lights dimmed in the room, and in 30 min it was finished.
Cramming all the nice wire loomed power cables from the 850W p/s wasn't easy but they did finally fit and all the covers went on, plus I have room internally for a second 2TB hitachi drive, and 2 ea external (oh thank you) SATA plugs.
I just got this card in here and fired the puppy up, so now its time to make sure all the drivers are proper, but it seems to be. I think the lesson I learned after having to rip out HP's little chinese power supply is GO BIG on the power supply - and if you are even thinking of SLI, go TWICE as big. The 850W supply runs one GTX480 card, one disc drive, and an i7/975+24GB ram and a video recorder card. The air comming out the back is HOT - as in heater hot.
The second lesson I learned is get a big case! This tiny HP case is cute and all that but it lacks the room inside for much internal hardware. It's a midsize tower case - If I were doing it from scratch I'd buy a fullsize tower case.
So why didn't I? I got a great deal on the 24GB of ram from HP and the 1GHZ pricessor. I paid less for a maxed out system than I could buy the ram and the processor for due to discounts. Unfortunately HP never thought anyone would stuff a corsair 850 and GTX 480 inside where their itty bitty stuff once was.
If you have a big enough case (floor standing full height) and a big enough power supply (6 SLI) 1500 W you could probably make a decent SLI system with 2 GTX480 pcbs (you realize thats 1024 cuda cores, ,right?)
Think Big and you won't be using drive bays to stuff power cables into so you can get the lid on the system. As others have said, asus, bfg, evga all make good equipment. I found a sweet deal on the evga which is the only reason I went that direction. Sweet deals change in one week, so be sure to buy what you want when the price dips. If you are planning a real SLI system, buy BOTH cards form the same MFGR at the same time
PSS

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Hello,
Here is my original thread
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=154517.0
I sent my MSI GTX 480 Lightning last week and I received a RMA replacement today with different serial #.
I did noticed that RMA dept. replaced the TIM before they shipped. I tried them with default clock to test the stability and it was very unstable.
My fan would go up to 100% and it would give me close to 90c temperature. My previous gtx 480 lightning would never go above mid 70c with 100% fan.
I set everything to default and played my favorites games and games was chappy like FPS would go up and down randomly. I tried Nvidia driver 285.62 and 290.36 beta, but both would behave same.
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GTX570 @ $300
GTX580 @ $460
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So you're saying on Win32 and CS4 Pr, Ae, AME, the graphics card doesn't matter at all? That I won't see any improvement over my 512MB 9800GT?
If I was to narrow it down even farther, the most important aspect would be in the "preview" performance. I can always render when I'm not using the system but sometimes the preview windows hang while working on a project. The problem worsens as the resolution increases or as the project gets more complicated. I had the same problem with PP1.5 which is why I decided to bite the bullet and upgrade to see if a newer version would help.
Cooling isn't an issue as long as a water block is available for my next card. I've read the 570 & 580 may be the same reference layout and use the same coolers, I'm still looking into that. I know I can liquid cool the 480, 560TI, 580. I have no idea about the Quadro's, I've never seen a block for those.
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Folks,
Well, maybe I can be of help myself. I'm new 'round here and hope my listing a hardware deal in this forum isn't a faux pas. I wanted as many PPro CS5 users as possible to see it here in this forum. For all I know, listing deals anywhere on this Adobe site is a no-no - so, sorry if I'm wrong in this!
I just bought a GTX 480 for $364 plus tax at Dell.... EVGA model 015-P3-1480-AR.
The sale has not fully completed as I type this, but shows as being far enough along in my PayPal account to have me think it is legit, plus I've gotten a confirmation email from Dell. All that might trip it up now is Dell being out-of-stock come shipping time.
I do not have an account or other special treatment from Dell. I think anyone can get in on this.
A coupon code for 30% off computer accessories makes it happen. The code is supposed to be good through June 10th. I doubt the stock will last that long. There are a number of exclusions, including monitors, but the code still covers quite a bit.
Code: HHM4QNZ3303N1Z
I found this info at "Slickdeals.net". Go to their website and hunt down the deal through a search. I'd link to it, but can't figure out how and wanted to get this up fast.
Good luck!
Joel E.

That's a very good price, considering Newegg is about $500
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Please advise if any of you can spot where the cause of these problems might lie...
These are fairly easy-to-repeat MPE-related bugs in the trial version of PPro CS5, so far I have found issues both with scaling and when duplicating clips to new layers.
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MPE is really nice (in theory at least) but it worries me that it fails to calculate opacity occlusion and scaling correctly for such relatively simple sequences.
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Dave.
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Hi Harm,
I've created a fresh test project and recreated a timeline similar to scenaio 1 (sticking to DV to rule out demanding codec issues)...
Here's the OK intial version of the timeline:
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LAYER3: PIP clip scaled to 25% pos. top right, no other effects just an opacity fade-in-out
LAYER2: PIP clip scaled to 25% pos. bottom right, no other effects just an opacity fade-in-out
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The rendered preview also omits layer 4, as soon as I turn off MPE, the timeline returns to red and layer 4 pops right back on the monitor!
Is this just a trial limitation of the MPE module, rather than restrict the 'extra' effect/layer to render-only you lose it altogether? This just seems a bit of a strange way to promote such an important feature, it certainly hasn't helped me decide on if/when to purchase, or perhaps it has?
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While you can go water and add custom fans and cooling, the Mac is much more of a "closed" box in many ways beyond RAM and hard drives and +very limited+ selection of graphics.
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/points finger at Marketing door
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Quote from: sylarnbg on 15-March-11, 19:46:37
thanks for the answer. yes i know it's great that i recieved this version
Edit: It hast the standard clock speeds, so is it reference design, which a normal gtx 480 watercooler would fit?
you have to check compatibility with cooler makers.
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