PC Suite & Bluetooth Dongle

Phone 3110 Classic
PC OS Win XP SP2 + all critical updates
PC Suite works fine on my wife's HP laptop with built in Bluetooth. I should like to connect to my desktop using Bluetooth via USB Dongle, but reading some posts in this forum this appears fraught with difficulty. Can anyone please recommend a USB Dongle which either works with Microsoft Bluetooth drivers or comes with PC Suite compatible drivers?
David

This isn't very encouraging. Last Saturday I bought a Nokia 2760 which has only Bluetooth for connectivity.
Syncing with a computer is pretty much a basic function of a mobile phone nowadays. If PC Sync won't work reliably with Bluetooth, which is my experience - here's part of a post I made earlier (no responses as yet) then the phone is not satisfactory fror me:
"I have a similar problem with my N2760 phone.
Its BT connection works fine with the headset but PC Sync, after working sporadically on the first day (it took 6 tries to load my 530 Outlook contacts on to the phone) no longer works at all.
I have 2 BT enabled computers, a Vista Home Premium Sony Laptop using a Bluesoleil USB2/BT2 dongle and an XP Pro workstation using a Broadcom USB2/BT2 dongle with Widcomm software. On both machines PC Sync runs for a little while then the sync fails with a message suggesting I check the connection. The phone also partially locks up and the screen just displays the battery and BT symbols, the rest is blank. It won't come out of this condition even if I remove the battery and/or simm card. After 15 minutes or so it recovers by itself."
The BT stacks on both computers are listed as supported by PC suite, I'm using version 6.85.14.1.
As you can see the 2 computers are on different OSs and the two dongles are from different manufacturers and have different drivers. The only common factors are the phone itself and PC sync.

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Those r new or require some more info realted to STACK and statring the prohect read the following page
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I even want to know that with respect to stack (say atinav) i need to purchase the dongle or not..
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Version:          59.41
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Location ID:          0x06200000
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rfcomm 29213 0
cpufreq_ondemand 5064 2
ipv6 249260 20
nilfs2 137542 1
ext2 55475 1
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snd_hda_codec_realtek 225687 1
joydev 7535 0
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usbhid 31211 0
usb_storage 34863 0
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bluetooth 115465 13 bnep,rfcomm,btusb
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cx24116 13077 2
ir_lirc_codec 3767 0
lirc_dev 7899 1 ir_lirc_codec
ir_sony_decoder 1847 0
ir_jvc_decoder 1909 0
ir_rc6_decoder 2325 0
ir_rc5_decoder 1813 0
ir_nec_decoder 2293 0
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cx23885 115535 40
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cx2341x 15572 1 cx23885
videobuf_dma_sg 7144 1 cx23885
videobuf_dvb 3890 1 cx23885
videobuf_core 13652 3 cx23885,videobuf_dma_sg,videobuf_dvb
v4l2_common 5351 2 cx23885,cx2341x
snd_hda_intel 19261 0
videodev 70734 3 cx23885,cx2341x,v4l2_common
media 8545 1 videodev
altera_ci 8004 1 cx23885
snd_hda_codec 66793 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep 4919 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 60311 3 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
dvb_core 77565 3 cx23885,videobuf_dvb,altera_ci
btcx_risc 2879 1 cx23885
tveeprom 10465 1 cx23885
snd_timer 15542 1 snd_pcm
snd 43527 7 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer
firewire_ohci 25683 0
soundcore 5018 1 snd
uhci_hcd 19344 0
snd_page_alloc 5909 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
firewire_core 43390 1 firewire_ohci
ehci_hcd 34847 0
sg 21022 0
r8169 34923 0
usbcore 119004 8 rt2870sta,usbhid,usb_storage,uas,btusb,uhci_hcd,ehci_hcd
button 3654 0
i2c_i801 7039 0
mii 3383 1 r8169
crc_itu_t 1077 1 firewire_core
evdev 7310 11
iTCO_wdt 10333 0
pcspkr 1415 0
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asus_atk0110 9099 0
uinput 5864 0
acpi_cpufreq 5053 1
freq_table 2055 2 cpufreq_ondemand,acpi_cpufreq
processor 21884 1 acpi_cpufreq
mperf 1035 1 acpi_cpufreq
fuse 58669 3
ext4 334626 2
mbcache 4321 2 ext2,ext4
jbd2 59098 1 ext4
crc16 1077 2 bluetooth,ext4
sd_mod 25515 7
sr_mod 12956 0
cdrom 31341 1 sr_mod
pata_acpi 2396 0
pata_marvell 2084 4
ata_piix 18569 1
libata 154349 3 pata_acpi,pata_marvell,ata_piix
scsi_mod 110670 6 usb_storage,uas,sg,sr_mod,sd_mod,libata
radeon 907876 0
ttm 45533 1 radeon
drm_kms_helper 24245 1 radeon
drm 147653 3 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit 4431 1 radeon
i2c_core 16665 11 cx24116,cx23885,v4l2_common,videodev,nvidia,tveeprom,i2c_i801,radeon,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit
intel_agp 8664 0
intel_gtt 11417 1 intel_agp
agpgart 22160 5 nvidia,ttm,drm,intel_agp,intel_gtt
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tomk wrote:Have a look in dmesg for relevant messages.
Yep, had done that, nothing relevant ..
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