PCA postings to DUMMY profit center

I have a customer invoice posted to profit center A and then it is cleared after customer payment is received. After balance sheet adjustment is calculated using F.5D transaction, the customer line item in the payment document is "attached" to DUMMY profit center. Shouldn't it "attach" to profit center of the invoice.
Thanks in advance.
Sanjiv Agrawal

I am not concerned with AR or AP invoice.   My question pertains to payment for AR or AP invoice.
Let's take AP invoice:
Cr Vendor $100
Dr Expense $100
AP payment:
Dr Vendor   $100    -> CLEARED ITEM
Cr Cash       $100
Does it make sense if SAP program F.5D determines PC "DUMMY" for the vendor cleared item? It is not going to be transferred to PCA anyway since it is no more open item.
Thanks
Sanjiv

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In SAP, we need to create a dummy profit center when you activate profit center. It is mandatory. This dummy profit center gets values when the system could not find regular profit center in its attempt. We need to configure the system such a way, there is no posting into dummy profit center. Or otherwise, by mistake, if it gets posting, the same have to be post PCA documents to clear them. Then only we get balanced Profit Center wise statement of income or balance sheet.
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