PCI and SATA locks on neo4 Ultra Board

Where in the BIOS do I set the locks for the PCI bus and the SATA ports? And which SATA ports are locked?

Quote from: MMAN on 15-February-05, 15:43:38
1,2,3,AND 4 ARE ALL ON THE SAME CONTROLLER. 5AND 6 ARE ON THE SILICON IMAGE CONTROLLER.
With the Neo2, only two are part of the chip, the other two require an external interface chip (note not an external controller). It's still a matter of debate if it's the 2 sata which use the interface chip, or those which don't, which are locked. Either way it's ports 3 and 4 which are locked on the Neo2.
I expected the same with the Neo4, but found using 3 and 4 caused disk corruption when the FSB was increased, and shifting to 1 and 2 solved it.

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I would like to know in the BIOS where I turn on and verify the PCI locks? Also which SATA ports are locked and does that need to be turned on as well?
Thanks

Quote from: Hannibal on 12-February-05, 04:28:44
The problem lies in sata 1&2. by using 3&4 many people have resolved many conflicts . The PCI bus is locked on both sides. There is a known issue with 1&2.
In my experince things have changed with the Neo4. I expected 3 and 4 to be locked and got textrure file errrors using 3dmark2001se, a sure sign of an overclocked disk. Using 1 and 2 now and had no such problem.

RMA'ed K8N Neo4 Platinum board, no sound on the new board's output

Hi Folks,
I just got back the replacement for the K8N Neo4 Platinum boad I sent in a month ago. The good news -- my mirrored RAID array came back up and my WinXP/SP2 setup looks fine. The bad news -- my front speaker output doesn't put out any sound. My Amplified 2.1 speaker set was plugged into my older machine and working fine, and I just swapped the speaker cable into the green output plug on my MB, and no sounds comes out. Sounds was working on the previous MB which I sent in for RMA, so the software on my HDD's should have been set correctly to generate sounds on the new MB.
First, any suggestions on how to get the sound outputs working? Second, any pointers on how to diagnose what's going on? Should I be seeing "Realtek '97" (or something like that) for the playback and recording devices, for instance?
Thanks in advance for the help!
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Couple of things come to mind. Power on the system and head on' over to the bios. Ensure the audio onboard is actually turned on...or if the board they sent you had it disabled.
Check the Device manager for any "!" in yellow next to anything in the audio dept. (windows control panel/system/hardware...yadda yadda....) If the onboard audio is turned 'on' and windows is seeing it? You'll have a heading for AC '97 listed, and also under sound effects options in the control panel it should be listed. If it's listed as working 'ok'? I seem to remember a set of jumpers on the motherboard for audio output. In the manual it's listing as follows:
"If you don't want to connect the front audio header, pins 5&6, 9&10 have to be jumpered in order to have signal output directed to the rear audio ports. Otherwise the line-out connector on the back panel will not function" That's out of my manual regarding JAUD1 connector. And I have the Neo4 K8N board.
Best of luck!
S-

975X Powerup and a PCI or PCI-E SATA Controller

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I have MSI 975X Platinum PowerUp-Edition (MS-7246 v.2.1) and have filled the 4 SATA ports on the main board so I want to add another controller. I bought an Adaptec 1430sa PCI-E controller card to add four more drives but the motherboard and Windows aren't finding it. I also then bought a PCI controller card and am having the same problem.
HELP!!!!
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Intel E6600 2.4
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X1950XT 256mb RADEON 16x

Quote
MSI Tech. 01/03/2008 This is normal since the mb already has 2 raid controllers which will not have room to support a 3rd controller card.
Have your tried other BIOS-Versions than 7.7? If not, it may be worth testing BIOS v7.16 BETA. It is one of the best BIOS releases for this mainboard.
v7.2x BIOS versions introduced a problem which forced users to disable the JMicron controller in BIOS to be able to get Intel RAID working on this mainboard. I am not sure if this problem was ever entirely fixed. A few users reported that the problem did not appear with 7.6x BIOS releases, but there wasn't really much official information in the BIOS changelogs.
Your issue and the Intel + JMicron - problem may be related. I don't know that for sure, but if you feel like testing a different BIOS Version and are aware of the risks of flashing a different BIOS, I suggest, you try v7.1b6. You can find it here (1st post):
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=99818.msg724324#msg724324

Sun Ultra 40 M2 SAS and SATA compatibility

Is the Sun Ultra 40 M2 SAS backplane compatible with SATA HDD's? Can I mix SAS and SATA hard disks connected to the same backplane, or can I only use SAS HDD's with the SAS backplane?
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I just wanted to follow up with an update on my progress.
I put the 2TB drive back in and I did a green field build from media and everything went fine.
I went into the bios and flushed the device configurations. Some of the documentation that I was able to find suggest that you need to perform a low level format but I did not have to do that.
The data channel speed will not go past 1.5GB but the drive that I have is a 6 GB SATA drive. I only hoped to get 3 GB like the SAS drive.
The system with the SATA drive seems to be slower to boot and sluggish. I will try to take some timings and post as I think I want to try to run this machine with mixed disk. If the SAS drives are going to give me faster boots, I will populate slots 1 and 2 with SAS and the rest with SATA for data.
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if i order a new imac with 1tb flash is that pcie based to where i could add a 3.5 ssd and does it still have the bracket and sata cable to add one in it

Be advices that the newest iMac's are basically SEALED Units and taking it apart in any way, other than removing the Memory slot cover to add more RAM (That is on the 27" model. The 21.5" is completely sealed), will void the warranty on it.
Not only that but the screen is Glued to the aluminum casing and if you do pry it off with damaging it you'll need new adhesive strips to remount it.
Not worth the efford or the cost when you can buy mat any other brand computer for less money and do all the upgrading you would ever want without ever voiding the warranty or breaking something in the process.

P6N SLI Plat + Adaptec 1220 pci-e sata card = lockup and no drive detection

Well today my adaptec aar-1220sa pci-e sata adaptor card came in and I was eager to install it. My first attempt to boot up without a drive attached was met with a slow bios screen and then when windows vista finally got to the desktop none of my usb peripherals would work. I flashed the card to the latest bios and installed the newest adaptec drivers and if I hook my wd sata drive to it I cannot boot. If I leave it in with no drives attached it will let windows boot however the usb hub is out and I have to remove it in device manager and then reinstall it in order to get my mouse and other usb devices back up and running. I was wondering if anyone else had tried this card and if you got it to work what did you do? So far for me it will not detect any sata drive that I hook up to it. Thanks.
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Quote from: Puffnstuff on 03-May-07, 00:59:46
My problems were all induced by the adaptec card. Once it was removed from the system everything went back to normal. I've used many add in drive controller cards in my day and none of them have behaved so abnormally as this one did. I believe that the problem is entirely with the adaptec sata adaptor and not with my system or mb. If I have to add more hd's I'll get a pci card or just add ide drives since I do have a free slot available.
I have used 2 eSATA cards on previous systems. Always ran like garbage and screwed up the boot process. Thats why i got the p6n plat with the esata onboard so I'd have no problems. My guess is you were having an IRQ conflict.

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OK----well it happened to me too!!! No overclock with SATA RAID......
Board loaded WinXP like a dream----seems fast as heck----everthing as smooth as glass-----is VERY stable at stock speeds.
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201 FSB was all I could get-----RIDICULOUS!
Have fooled a little with voltages----no go
Will try Vlink settings tomorrow-----am tired and ticked off
Have been doing everything from Bios----will try the dynamic overclocking and core cell tomorrw as well.
Something is not right--------I emailed MSI and will call them as well on Monday.
Am also going to search the Abit forum and see if they have the same problem because if they do-----it's probably a chipset problem------if they don't------it's an MSI problem.
Maybe give VIA a call as well-----this board has so much potential for a $59 expense.
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OK----I hosed Windows for the second time last night playing with this board.
Beta Bios 1.42 DID NOT fix the Bios overclocking problem with SATA.
ANY overclock over 220 FSB (at least with my setup) is VERY dicey. I crashed in windows and no matter what I try----it will not boot. -----Clear CMOS, F8, Last Known Good Config, etc. nothing-----it just restarts.
No big deal----I just rebuild the array and reload Windows------and do Windows update----but it costs me a couple of hours each time. I won't load any real aps except benchmark applications on this machine till I'm satisfied Ive got stable settings.
Things I've learned:
I really like "Core Cell"----it's actually a pretty good little overclocking app. Be careful of the "Auto" setting----for me, it worked once----the 2d time I tried it was when I hosed Windows. It is supposed to start overclocking your board moving the FSB up 1 Mghtz at a time till it finally is unstable and crashes. Then it saves the last good setting which was stable. Then it will use that setting at Startup when the computer boots.
Worked great the first time------I upped my voltages and tried again-----the computer got to 227 FSB and froze----it never recovered.
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Am thinking a stable overclock of around 220 FSB which is dissappointing for a 2.4c----but you know what, a 3.0c or a 2.8c might be perfect for this board. With the higher multiplier of a 3.0c (15)------a 220 FSB puts you to to 3.3 Mghtz, which is SUPER for a low cost setup----- and you can find 3.0c's for less than $200 now-----and the low price of this board makes a 3.0c very affordable. I would think the same applies to a Prescott 2.8 or 3.0----but I have no experience with that CPU.
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1. Pretty darn good board for the price!
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Waiting to hear back from MSI and VIA----and will play with this board some more tonight.
John

MSI 6600GT PCI-E or MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum ?

Dear Sirs,
I've just bought a MSI NX6600 TD GT 128MB PCI-E and
Motherboard MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum.
I Think that one of these is defective bacause WinXP can't work with MSI original drivers, MSI old drivers or Nvidia drivers. The system reboots.
I think that i've tried almost everything and this card only works badly with VesaSave driver (Generic Windows driver).
Could a defective video card works ?
Is it possible that the problem is the Motherboard ?
Any idea ?
Help me please,
Thank you very much,
ISW
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[845 Series] 845PE and SATA DVD Burner, am I missing something here?

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I seem to be finding a lot of people with issues regarding Plextor SATA drives, but I may just not have the right mobo to do what I want, maybe someone can help me figure this out.
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If I CAN use an optical drive, are the SATA channels hooked up somehow with the third IDE channel (In other words, is the fact that I have an IDE drive already on the third channel negating the SATA channels in the firsat place?)?
If the HDD IS what is causing the SATA drive not to show up, will moving it to the slave position on my Secondary IDE channel fix this, and if so, will my drive letter change?
I sure hope this isn't covered somewhere else in the forums, but I really didn't see MY exact problem anywhere.
I appreciate any and all help that you folks can provide!
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Here are links to Plextor's MOBO compatability list:
Plextor 712SA - Serial-ATA (SATA) Compability List
http://www.plextor.com/english/support/media_712SA.htm
PX-716SA - Serial ATA Compatibility List
http://www.plextor.com/english/support/PX-716SA%20motherboard%20compatability%20listing.htm

Fsb problem with Neo4 Ultra

I have been having a problem with my neo4 ultra that seems to be pretty common.
I can not boot past a fsb of 219 reliably.
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AMD64 3200+
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OCZ Gold Series Dual 1GB DDR PC-3200
Thermalright XP-90
OCZ ModStream 520W
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I am doing it all with clockgen to up my FSB to find the best results. I am on 1.24 BIOS
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Mem at 166 Voltage at 2.85
Mem Timmings at 2.5-3-2-8 1T
CPU 10x startup - cpu-z reports voltage at 1.58
Rasied FSB by 5 at a time to 251 and super pi failed.
Changed vcore to 1.60 and the best I could get super pi to run at was 247. So I decided to start fine tunning my memory.
I set mem to 180 2.5-3-3-10-1T
Used clockgen again and what was interesting was FSB of 255 passed with a superpi of 34 sec. Now it failed at fsb258.
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Now it seems that there is a limitation on the board of 1.55 vcore with a Winnie. Even using the overvoltage setting. What is that all about? You put overclocking friendly on the retail box, on the product page on the main site, and all the review sites say overclocking potential is graet, and then you limit the vcore to 1.5v? Crazy logic (or should I say "Fuzzy Logic") I am close to eBaying this board (only had it 2 - 3 days, but won't send it back to ZZF for replacement as all of them could have the same problem) and go with the DFI or the Abit Fatality.
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Okay I typed my address under the "network addapters" and I still do not have any internet access. I even tried to reboot...and nothing. My computer knows when I have a cable hooked up to the port. It will tell me "network cable connected" or "network cable unplugged." I hooked up my netgear network card and I was able to get online.
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matyiii wrote:
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