PCI ATA 133 RAID Card VS. PCI ATA 133 Controller Card

Hello,
I just bought a 300gb HD to put into my QS. I know I need to add another ATA card, but I noticed in stores there is a PCI ATA 133 RAID and a PCI ATA 133 Controller card.
What is the difference? The ATA 133 Raid card I saw is considerably cheaper. Can I use it to run my 300Gb drive as my startup drive (iDVD issues!)?
Thanks for your help.

Additional question: I have seen that there are a number of issues with SATA II drives in the early G5. Can you recommend a drive in the 500 GB range that would work well in the Dual 1.8 GHz? A SATA II would be a good option for the future... Thanks!

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    Installing the PCI Raid card into the G5 was a little more involved than I expected, and while I was getting it seated one of the jumpers fell off. I don't know which one, and I am not going to install it into the new server until I get the card set up correctly.
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    Steve

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  • Trouble NetBooting Xserve G5 with PCI RAID Card

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  • Apple Raid Card panic on Mac Pro Early 2008 after installing SSD as an enhanced JBOD.

    I recently installed a SSD drive in my Mac Pro to replace an aging, original boot drive.  I have an Apple raid card with 3 other hds attached - all in an enhanced JBOD configuration.  After installing the SSD from OWC (3G Electra SATA II Compatible) everything appeared to work fine.  But after 36 hours I received a apple raid card kernel panic alert.  See below for diagnostic crash log.  OWC support says that their drive should work fine - now I am not so sure.  Anyone out there with suggestions/solutions is most welcomed.
    Anonymous UUID:       83ADF2C8-4D41-D2EE-58C2-0CC4344DB0B4
    Sun Jan  5 21:18:46 2014
    panic(cpu 3 caller 0xffffff7f98b1441e): "AppleRAIDCard controller panic"@/SourceCache/AppleHWRaidDriver/AppleHWRaidDriver-401/Driver/Driver/Apple RAIDCard.cp:1018
    Backtrace (CPU 3), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff8221563e30 : 0xffffff8017622f69
    0xffffff8221563eb0 : 0xffffff7f98b1441e
    0xffffff8221563ef0 : 0xffffff8017aada80
    0xffffff8221563f30 : 0xffffff8017aac522
    0xffffff8221563f80 : 0xffffff8017aac5f7
    0xffffff8221563fb0 : 0xffffff80176d6aa7
          Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
             com.apple.driver.AppleRAIDCard(401.0)[06045EA1-0404-36C3-9BE6-FE217DCD420C]@0xf fffff7f98b11000->0xffffff7f98b26fff
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice(3.6.0)[657BB360-C3EA-3D01-934E-12DBD6 0BBBF5]@0xffffff7f97f80000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.8)[447B4896-16FF-3616-95A2-1C516B2A1498]@0xffffff 7f97cba000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIParallelFamily(3.0.0)[B6D80E76-647D-3BAE-823A-85871E9BAC7 2]@0xffffff7f97ca9000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(3.6.0)[76253A22-A1DB-3BF4-A972-E6 94A37CD09A]@0xffffff7f97c78000
    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
    Mac OS version:
    13B42
    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 13.0.0: Thu Sep 19 22:22:27 PDT 2013; root:xnu-2422.1.72~6/RELEASE_X86_64
    Kernel UUID: 1D9369E3-D0A5-31B6-8D16-BFFBBB390393
    Kernel slide:     0x0000000017400000
    Kernel text base: 0xffffff8017600000
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    System uptime in nanoseconds: 91308918786320
    last loaded kext at 89490169308794: com.apple.filesystems.smbfs          2.0.0 (addr 0xffffff7f99714000, size 335872)
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    System Profile:
    Model: MacPro3,1, BootROM MP31.006C.B05, 8 processors, Quad-Core Intel Xeon, 2.8 GHz, 18 GB, SMC 1.25f4
    Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5870, ATI Radeon HD 5870, PCIe, 1024 MB
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    Network Service: Ethernet 1, Ethernet, en0
    PCI Card: ATI Radeon HD 5870, Display Controller, Slot-1
    PCI Card: ATI Radeon HD 5870, ATY,LangurParent, Slot-1
    PCI Card: Apple RAID Card, RAID Controller, Slot-4
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    FireWire Device: built-in_hub, Up to 800 Mb/sec
    FireWire Device: unknown_device, Iomage HDD, Up to 800 Mb/sec
    FireWire Device: unknown_device, Unknown
    Thunderbolt Bus:

    RE: Mac Pro Replacement Graphics cards
    1) Apple brand cards,
    2) "sold in the Apple store" cards, and
    3) "Mac Edition" cards ...
    ... show all the screens, including Boot up screens, Safe Mode, Installer, Recovery, debug screens, and Alt/Option boot screens. At this writing, these choices include:
    1) Apple brand cards:
    • Apple-firmware 5770, about US$250** works near full speed in every model Mac Pro, Drivers in 10.6.5
    • Apple-firmware 5870, about US$450
    2) "sold in the Apple store" cards
    • NVIDIA Quadro 4000, about US$1200
    • NVIDIA Quadro 5000, about US$2500
    3) "Mac Edition" cards -- REQUIRE 10.8.3 or later:
    • SAPPHIRE HD 7950 3GB GDDR5 MAC Edition, about US$480** Vendor recommends Mac Pro 4,1
    • EVGA GTX 680 Mac Edition, about US$600
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    • running 10.8.3 or later AND
    • don't care about "no boot screens" etc AND
    • can re-wire or otherwise "work out" the power cabling, THEN:
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  • Mac Pro RAID and Boot Camp and eSATA controller Card

    Hello all,
    I have carefully read the topics concerning the Apple RAID card and its inability to run Boot Camp. Of course, I read this after placing my order. I have been mulling over my alternatives based on everyone's input. Here is what I want to do and how I think I can get there:
    My system, when it finally arrives and is assembled will be:
    Mac Pro 3.2GHz
    12MG RAM
    4 x 1TB hard drives
    Apple RAID Card
    ATI 2600
    Except for the RAID card, the memory and drives are third party.
    My plan was to create a RAID 5 with 3 of the internal drives, with the OS and apps on the non-RAIDed drive. I wanted to install Windows in a Boot Camp partition, but since learned this is not possible with the Apple card. I also planned on using the OWC Mercury Elite RAIDs I have (each enclosure house 2 x 500GB drives, and I have 4 enclosures for a possible max of 4TB of back up) to handle Time Machine (or other BU strategy) for the internals.
    I have not received the Mac yet, so cannot look inside. From what I can gather, the Graphics card will occupy the Slot 1. The Raid Card will occupy Slot 4. This leaves me with only one 4x slot for a 4 port eSATA controller card (such as the RocketRAID 2314)
    As I see it, I have a couple of obstacles to overcome, and I would appreciate advice/feedback on my possible solutions.
    Problem 1: In order to use my existing OWC RAID enclosures, I need TWO controller cards, each with 4 eSATA connectors. Unless I scrap the 500GB drives for 1TB drives, I am stuck. Am I correct in assuming I cannot use Slot 2 for another controller card? Is there any work around?
    Problem 2: Boot Camp. Can I purchase the Newer Technology extender cable to access the two eSATA ports on the Mac's motherboard to attach an external SATA drive for this purpose?
    Questions:
    1) I assume I can set up an external RAID (another RAID 5?) with my OWC drives and use Time Machine to back up to them?
    2) From the illustration in the Mac Pro manual I downloaded, there appear to be only 4 PCIe slots, but 5 openings (one seems to be aligned with the back-up battery). I assume this is the double-wide space for the graphics card. Can I use the extra opening for the Newer Tech ports since there is no card taking up space?
    3) Should I remove the Apple RAID card (resell on ebay) and buy the CalDigit RAID Card? It has the virture of allowing a Boot Camp install AND has ports that I can buy SAS to eSATA cables for, allowing me to use all of my OWC drives.
    The CalDigit Card sounds good, but I would like to make the Apple card work if I can. Also, with the OPTIONAL battery back-up, the CalDigit card isn't that much less than the Apple card. Besides, I cannot find this card anywhere, everyone's at NAB, and it's Passover next week. AND I need to get this system up and running ASAP so I can begin making the money to pay for it.
    Any input would be most welcome.
    Gary

    Problem 1: In order to use my existing OWC RAID enclosures, I need TWO controller cards, each with 4 eSATA connectors. Unless I scrap the 500GB drives for 1TB drives, I am stuck.
    You could get new enclosures with SATA port multipliers for up to five drives per SATA port.
    Am I correct in assuming I cannot use Slot 2 for another controller card? Is there any work around?
    Apple says any PCI-e card should work in slot 2
    <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Hardware/Conceptual/HWtechPCI/Articles/pciimplementation.html#>
    "Mac Pro detects whether an inserted card is PCIe 2.0 (5.0 GHz) or PCIe (2.5 GHz) and selects the operation depending on the card's maximum capability."
    but there have been reports of trouble (maybe caused by the recent firmware update). Check with the card maker to be sure.
    Problem 2: Boot Camp. Can I purchase the Newer Technology extender cable to access the two eSATA ports on the Mac's motherboard to attach an external SATA drive for this purpose?
    No. Those ports are only usable from OSX, but if you only have one optical drive, you can mount another drive in the lower optical drive bay with a Pro Caddy for use with Boot Camp.
    <http://www.transintl.com/store/category.cfm?Category=2704&RequestTimeOut=500>
    This simplest connection is to use the optical ATA cable (with a SATA to ATA adapter for a SATA drive).
    If you want to use a SATA connection, use a iPass to SATA cable from the iPass port on the Mac Pro logic board, which is normally used for the four SATA drives when there is no RAID card.
    <http://www.pcconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=7252016>
    Questions:
    1) I assume I can set up an external RAID (another RAID 5?) with my OWC drives and use Time Machine to back up to them?
    Yes
    2) From the illustration in the Mac Pro manual I downloaded, there appear to be only 4 PCIe slots, but 5 openings (one seems to be aligned with the back-up battery). I assume this is the double-wide space for the graphics card. Can I use the extra opening for the Newer Tech ports since there is no card taking up space?
    It looks like it should work if you route the cables just above the graphics card.
    <http://www.newertech.com/Static/articles/images/macensteineSATA_5.jpg>

  • Constant KPs in New MacPro Pointing to RAID Card

    Good morning,
    Facing a bit of a vexing issue and thought I would see if anyone else out there is seeing the same thing.
    I have 2 new Mac Pros, fresh out of the box running the latest Lion public build (10.7.1) and they're both KPing at random intervals. The logs seem to point to the RAID driver as the culprit, but doing a complete wipe and erase on the system seems to do nothing to resolve the matter. Part of me thinks this is because we're having to restore from the App Store rather than a dedicated system disk for the unit which would have the drivers - but that sounds paranoid. Surely Apple would have the needed drivers and various firmware download as part of the reinstallation process?
    Curiously, these crashes occur even when the system is not accessing the RAID or writing to it.
    At any rate, here is the latest crash log. If anyone has any thoughts or suggestions, I'd appreciate it.
    Interval Since Last Panic Report:  33 sec
    Panics Since Last Report:          1
    Anonymous UUID:                    8E477550-157D-4F61-98B8-FB69817663EB
    Tue Sep 27 07:25:22 2011
    panic(cpu 22 caller 0xffffff7f811ace58): "AppleRAIDCard controller panic"@/SourceCache/AppleHWRaidDriver/AppleHWRaidDriver-208/Driver/Driver/Apple RAIDCard.cp:1004
    Backtrace (CPU 22), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff8755ec3e30 : 0xffffff8000220702
    0xffffff8755ec3eb0 : 0xffffff7f811ace58
    0xffffff8755ec3ef0 : 0xffffff8000639536
    0xffffff8755ec3f30 : 0xffffff80006382b0
    0xffffff8755ec3f70 : 0xffffff8000638154
    0xffffff8755ec3fb0 : 0xffffff8000820057
          Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
             com.apple.driver.AppleRAIDCard(208.0)[5E0325A5-48E1-34D2-A854-D6989AE4A436]@0xf fffff7f811a9000->0xffffff7f811befff
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice(3.0.0)[93FEFB65-F21E-3ACE-84D6-D60CFD 385062]@0xffffff7f807b7000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6.5)[95ABB490-3AB5-3D5E-9C21-67089A9AE6A1]@0xffff ff7f8085e000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIParallelFamily(2.5.0)[AD112575-F6D2-3463-BE1F-89F8F2A313B 2]@0xffffff7f8084e000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(3.0.0)[2A3F0115-37C0-3BA7-B44A-C5 2F68300485]@0xffffff7f80768000
    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
    Mac OS version:
    11A511
    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 11.0.0: Sat Jun 18 12:56:35 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1699.22.73~1/RELEASE_X86_64
    Kernel UUID: 24CC17EB-30B0-3F6C-907F-1A9B2057AF78
    System model name: MacPro5,1 (Mac-F221BEC8)
    System uptime in nanoseconds: 2648888832875
    last loaded kext at 72921875740: com.apple.driver.AppleProfileTimestampAction          81 (addr 0xffffff7f81eec000, size 16384)
    last unloaded kext at 162860431554: com.apple.driver.StorageLynx          3.0.0 (addr 0xffffff7f81138000, size 8192)
    loaded kexts:
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    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelProfile          81
    com.apple.filesystems.msdosfs          1.7
    com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor          1.9.4d0
    com.apple.filesystems.autofs          3.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet          1.0.0d1
    com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient          3.5.9
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver          122
    com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl          1.0.24
    com.apple.driver.AppleTyMCEDriver          1.0.2d2
    com.apple.driver.AGPM          100.12.40
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver          2.1.1f11
    com.apple.kext.ATIFramebuffer          7.0.2
    com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC          1.59
    com.apple.driver.Intel82574L          2.2.0b1
    com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X          7.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDA          2.1.1f11
    com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothMultitouch          66.3
    com.apple.ATIRadeonX3000          7.0.2
    com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver          1.2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBDisplays          302.1.2
    com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331          500.20.6
    com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin          4.7.0b2
    com.apple.driver.AppleLPC          1.5.1
    com.apple.driver.Oxford_Semi          3.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient          3.0.0
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless          1.0.0d1
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib          1.0.0d1
    com.apple.BootCache          32
    com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI          4.8.6
    com.apple.driver.AppleRAIDCard          208
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    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI          4.4.0
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    com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM          1.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleRTC          1.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleHPET          1.6
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons          1.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS          1.7
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC          1.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC          1.5
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient          166.0.0
    com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall          3.0.30
    com.apple.security.quarantine          1
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement          166.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleProfileTimestampAction          81
    com.apple.driver.AppleProfileThreadInfoAction          81
    com.apple.driver.AppleProfileRegisterStateAction          81
    com.apple.driver.AppleProfileReadCounterAction          81
    com.apple.driver.AppleProfileKEventAction          81
    com.apple.driver.AppleProfileCallstackAction          81
    com.apple.iokit.AppleProfileFamily          81
    com.apple.kext.triggers          1.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleAVBAudio          1.0.0d11
    com.apple.iokit.IOSurface          80.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager          2.5f17
    com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily          10.0.5
    com.apple.iokit.IOAVBFamily          1.0.0d22
    com.apple.iokit.IOEthernetAVBController          1.0.0d5
    com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib          2.1.1f11
    com.apple.driver.AppleMultitouchDriver          220.62
    com.apple.driver.IOBluetoothHIDDriver          2.5f17
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusController          1.0.10d0
    com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport          2.3
    com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP          2.2.3
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    com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib          1.3
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController          2.1.1f11
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    com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family          400.40
    com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily          2.0
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    com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginFamily          4.7.0b2
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI          1.0.10d0
    com.apple.kext.ATI5000Controller          7.0.2
    com.apple.kext.ATISupport          7.0.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily          2.3
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHIDKeyboard          152.3
    com.apple.driver.AppleHIDKeyboard          152.3
    com.apple.driver.XsanFilter          403
    com.apple.driver.BroadcomUSBBluetoothHCIController          2.5f17
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBBluetoothHCIController          2.5f17
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothFamily          2.5f17
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBHIDDriver          4.4.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSerialBusProtocolTransport          2.1.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireSBP2          4.2.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBMassStorageClass          3.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBMergeNub          4.4.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite          3.9.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice          3.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily          1.6
    com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily          1.6
    com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily          1.7
    com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily          4.4.3
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIParallelFamily          2.5.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI          2.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient          4.4.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily          2.0.6
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily          4.4.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime          1.5.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily          1.7.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily          1.1
    com.apple.security.sandbox          165
    com.apple.kext.AppleMatch          1.0.0d1
    com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet          7
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice          3.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily          3.0.0
    com.apple.driver.DiskImages          326
    com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily          1.7
    com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore          28.18
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform          1.4
    com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily          2.6.5
    com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily          1.4
    Model: MacPro5,1, BootROM MP51.007F.B03, 12 processors, 6-Core Intel Xeon, 2.93 GHz, 64 GB, SMC 1.39f11
    Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5770, ATI Radeon HD 5770, PCIe, 1024 MB
    Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5770, ATI Radeon HD 5770, PCIe, 1024 MB
    Memory Module: DIMM 1, 8 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x802C, 0x33364A535A4631473732505A2D3147344431
    Memory Module: DIMM 2, 8 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x802C, 0x33364A535A4631473732505A2D3147344431
    Memory Module: DIMM 3, 8 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x802C, 0x33364A535A4631473732505A2D3147344431
    Memory Module: DIMM 4, 8 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x802C, 0x33364A535A4631473732505A2D3147344431
    Memory Module: DIMM 5, 8 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x802C, 0x33364A535A4631473732505A2D3147344431
    Memory Module: DIMM 6, 8 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x802C, 0x33364A535A4631473732505A2D3147344431
    Memory Module: DIMM 7, 8 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x802C, 0x33364A535A4631473732505A2D3147344431
    Memory Module: DIMM 8, 8 GB, DDR3 ECC, 1333 MHz, 0x802C, 0x33364A535A4631473732505A2D3147344431
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x8E), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.100.98.75.6)
    Bluetooth: Version 2.5.0f17, 2 service, 19 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
    Network Service: Built-in Ethernet, Ethernet, en0
    PCI Card: Apple RAID Card, sppci_raid, Slot-4
    PCI Card: ATI Radeon HD 5770, sppci_displaycontroller, Slot-1
    PCI Card: ATI Radeon HD 5770, sppci_displaycontroller, Slot-2
    Serial ATA Device: HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GH61N
    Serial ATA Device: HL-DT-ST BD-RE  WH12LS38
    USB Device: hub_device, apple_vendor_id, 0x9126, 0xfa200000 / 2
    USB Device: Keyboard Hub, apple_vendor_id, 0x1006, 0xfa210000 / 6
    USB Device: Apple Keyboard, apple_vendor_id, 0x024f, 0xfa212000 / 7
    USB Device: Apple LED Cinema Display, apple_vendor_id, 0x9226, 0xfa260000 / 5
    USB Device: Display Audio, apple_vendor_id, 0x1105, 0xfa240000 / 4
    USB Device: Display iSight, apple_vendor_id, 0x8508, 0xfa250000 / 3
    USB Device: hub_device, apple_vendor_id, 0x9126, 0xfd300000 / 3
    USB Device: Display iSight, apple_vendor_id, 0x8508, 0xfd350000 / 8
    USB Device: Display Audio, apple_vendor_id, 0x1105, 0xfd340000 / 7
    USB Device: Apple LED Cinema Display, apple_vendor_id, 0x9226, 0xfd360000 / 6
    USB Device: USB2.0 Hub, 0x05e3  (Genesys Logic, Inc.), 0x0608, 0xfd100000 / 2
    USB Device: Mass Storage Device, 0x058f  (Alcor Micro, Corp.), 0x6387, 0xfd140000 / 5
    USB Device: DS Pro2, 0x0102, 0x0a22, 0xfd120000 / 4
    USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub, 0x0a5c  (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0x5a100000 / 2
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x8215, 0x5a110000 / 3
    FireWire Device: built-in_hub, 800mbit_speed
    FireWire Device: OEM ATA Device 00, G-TECH, 800mbit_speed
    FireWire Device: unknown_device, unknown_speed

    Hi,
    I've had exactly the same issue. Whenever my Macpro is doing lots of computations it will crash, even when I am neither reading nor writing to/from the internal RAID drive. What were you doing when they crashed? I did a hardware test and it is not hardware related. I am still waiting for Applecare people to retunr my calls...
    This is the latest crash report.
    Interval Since Last Panic Report:  418628 sec
    Panics Since Last Report:          8
    Anonymous UUID:                    11D3BB11-032E-4587-B4F8-0F630F357E16
    Wed Sep 28 11:58:53 2011
    panic(cpu 14 caller 0xffffff7f81b1de58): "AppleRAIDCard controller panic"@/SourceCache/AppleHWRaidDriver/AppleHWRaidDriver-208/Driver/Driver/Apple RAIDCard.cp:1004
    Backtrace (CPU 14), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff872519be30 : 0xffffff8000220702
    0xffffff872519beb0 : 0xffffff7f81b1de58
    0xffffff872519bef0 : 0xffffff8000639626
    0xffffff872519bf30 : 0xffffff80006383a0
    0xffffff872519bf70 : 0xffffff8000638244
    0xffffff872519bfb0 : 0xffffff8000820057
          Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
             com.apple.driver.AppleRAIDCard(208.0)[5E0325A5-48E1-34D2-A854-D6989AE4A436]@0xf fffff7f81b1a000->0xffffff7f81b2ffff
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIBlockCommandsDevice(3.0.0)[93FEFB65-F21E-3ACE-84D6-D60CFD 385062]@0xffffff7f808a7000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6.5)[95ABB490-3AB5-3D5E-9C21-67089A9AE6A1]@0xffff ff7f80821000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIParallelFamily(2.5.0)[AD112575-F6D2-3463-BE1F-89F8F2A313B 2]@0xffffff7f80811000
                dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily(3.0.0)[2A3F0115-37C0-3BA7-B44A-C5 2F68300485]@0xffffff7f807e7000
    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
    Mac OS version:
    11B26
    Kernel version:
    Darwin Kernel Version 11.1.0: Tue Jul 26 16:07:11 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1699.22.81~1/RELEASE_X86_64
    Kernel UUID: D52AAB80-B2BC-3C6E-BBEA-78BD28064998
    System model name: MacPro5,1 (Mac-F221BEC8)
    System uptime in nanoseconds: 1996751535896
    last loaded kext at 63991262168: com.apple.filesystems.ntfs    3.8 (addr 0xffffff7f8084b000, size 376832)
    last unloaded kext at 259769775048: com.apple.driver.AppleIntel8254XEthernet    2.1.3b1 (addr 0xffffff7f80c46000, size 110592)
    loaded kexts:
    com.mcafee.kext.Virex    1.1.0d1
    com.parallels.kext.prl_vnic    7.0 14922.693916
    com.parallels.kext.prl_netbridge    7.0 14922.693916
    com.parallels.kext.prl_hid_hook    7.0 14922.693916
    com.parallels.kext.prl_hypervisor    7.0 14922.693916
    com.parallels.kext.prl_usb_connect    7.0 14922.693916
    com.apple.filesystems.ntfs    3.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor    1.9.4d0
    com.apple.filesystems.autofs    3.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothMultitouch    66.3
    com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC    1.59
    com.apple.driver.AppleTyMCEDriver    1.0.2d2
    com.apple.driver.AGPM    100.12.40
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBDisplays    302.1.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver    122
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDA    2.1.1f12
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver    2.1.1f12
    com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient    3.5.9
    com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl    1.0.24
    com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet    1.0.0d1
    com.apple.kext.ATIFramebuffer    7.0.4
    com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X    7.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AudioIPCDriver    1.2.0
    com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin    4.7.0b2
    com.apple.driver.AppleLPC    1.5.1
    com.apple.ATIRadeonX3000    7.0.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleRAID    4.0.6
    com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient    3.0.0
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless    1.0.0d1
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib    1.0.0d1
    com.apple.BootCache    32
    com.apple.driver.AppleRAIDCard    208
    com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331    511.20.10
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    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub    4.4.0
    com.apple.driver.Intel82574L    2.2.0b1
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    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBUHCI    4.4.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM    1.5.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleRTC    1.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleHPET    1.6
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons    1.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS    1.7
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC    1.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC    1.5
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient    166.0.0
    com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall    3.0.30
    com.apple.security.quarantine    1
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement    166.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleBluetoothHIDKeyboard    152.3
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