PCIE, PCI, and the quad-core

I have recenty bought the new Quad-Core, a machine that I am very happy with. However, there is one aspect about it that I am not completely clear about. I understand that the PCIe and PCI cards are not interchangeable. Does the quad-core not have a standard PCI slot? In other words, for any video capture cards or other upgrades, I can only use PCIe, correct?

Well, I'm glad it is cutting edge, but the costs definitely hurt. I'm looking at $589 for a video capture card and monitoring system. PCI is as little as $300. Oh well!
Thanks for your input, I appreciate it!
Quad-Core dual 2.5ghz, 4gb/500gb, FCP5, Boris CC, Powerbook G4 (2) Mac OS X (10.4.3) AG-DVX100A (2), mBox, Sony 23" HD LCD,

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Hi,
I 'm Overclocking enthusiast and recently decided to take to my hometown in Brazil using a platform products from MSI, to make disclosure of benchmark tests in social networks and in gaming blogs.
So i purchased a new system including the MSI Z97 GAMING 9 AC motherboard and MSI Gaming N770 TF 4GD5/OC GeForce GTX 770 4GB graphics card. After building the system I initially had problems with the graphics card not being detected and the wi-fi module (that hard to fit in the mobo) don't even appear in device manager. I already tried to dismount and remount the module on the motherboard with extreme care, no success. After some research I updated the bios to 1.5 and used the onboard graphics card to install windows 8.1, drivers etc. After windows, drivers etc were installed the graphics card and the wi-fi module still would not detect.
I have tried another graphics card in this system and it does not seem to work either. In bios it just always says that the PCIE slots are 'empty'.
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1. Cleared CMOS.
2. Updated BIOS.
3. Updated Chipset, drivers etc.
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yet
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