Pco connectivity ( MII and Wonderware system) Info required

Hi Experts,
We're connecting MII 15.0 box to Wonderware systems using Pco 15.0 SP03 what are the configuration details/credentials/parameters required for a successful connection to Wonderware system? What are the details that we need to emphasize on from the wonderware side to ensure a successful connection?
Regards
Rajeev

Hi Steve,
Thanks for all the advice. We need only OEE related data from wonderware historian systems and therefore we have two options:
1)    SAP Pco.
2)    JDBC connection to their historian sql database.
We would like to know which the best option from these two is.  As we know SAP Pco requires additional installation and configuration. Pco is having the advantage of a notification feature as well. We can keep monitor the change of value in a tag.
But at the same time Historian tag values are stored in a SQL database which can be connected from MII. I understand that SQL database doesn’t have notification feature but still we may pull the data through a query which runs on a scheduler.
Also, since OEE dashboard refreshes every minute, then probably the real time data that we can fetch via PCo (for eg every sec,15secs etc).. might not be that productive since OEE dashboard might not display it.
What's your suggestion?
Regards,
Rajeev

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