PDF file size in relation to number of pages of the exact same document

PDF file size of a document for one page is 28kb. PDF file size of a the same document for two pages (1st page and 2nd page are exact same document), also 28kb. Shouldn't it be 56kb??

First of all, you can't use Adobe Reader to add, delete or duplicate pages in a PDF file (unless you use a template object), so you're either using Adobe Acrobat, or some other application entirely.
The size of PDF files is not linear, ie if you have 1-page file and it's 1 MB, then duplicating it will results in a 2-page file of 2 MB, or a 10-page file of 10 MB. Many items in a PDF document only need to be saved once (such as font information, image information in some cases, etc.), so the change in size when adding additional pages is sometimes very small. At other times it can be very big, though. You can have a 100-page file that is 1 MB and then add a single page to it, with a new font perhaps, and the size will jump to 5 MB, just because that font is very large...

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The pdf file that i am converting has multiple pages but the conversion only exports the 1st page into excel. How do i get the product to include all pages on multiple sheets?

Hi,
The pdf file that I am converting has multiple pages but the conversion only exports the 1st page into excel. How do i get the product to include all pages on multiple sheets?

Hi christinek,
Can you please tell me how the PDF that you're converting was created? Sometimes, PDF files created by third-party PDF generators (that is non-Adobe applications), don't contain all the tags and file information necessary to ensure a proper conversion to Excel. There are no settings that you can change in ExportPDF to adjust how the file is imported.
You can tell how the PDF was created by choosing File > Properties in Reader and looking for the PDF Producer on the Description tab. If the PDF was created by a third-party, it just may not be written to spec. Please see Support Policy for PDF Files created by non Adobe applications.
Best,
Sara

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InDesign Transparency Effect vs. pdf file size

I have an Interactive pdf that was created from InDesign. There is "inner glow" is an effect style created box style. This box style is used a number of times in the 30 page document. The glow is a gradient from black to transparent which looks like an inner shadow for the boxes (sample attached). When I generate the pdf file, size is about 12 Mgb, too large for the target audience.
When I alter the style in InDesign to say something simple like a 10% black solid fill, the pdf file size decreases to about 1 Mgb.
Looked into "flattening transparency" options but this creates pdf that has none of the interactive buttons and links that are required.
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For some reason I can't find reply on Forums site, so replying to this
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Exporting an Interactive pdf using the attached (15.8) jpegs settings
creates a file that is 15.8 Mgb.
Exporting an Interactive pdf using the attached (14.5) jpegs settings
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PDF File Size - any way to compress further?

We have are using the Crystal for .NET export method to export a report to a .pdf file, and are having an issue with the pdf file size on a report that contains images. The images are stored in a SQL2005 database as blob or varbinary(max). The report executes a stored procedure that selects data (including images) to produce a quotation. There are input parms to decide which images to print (for example A, B or both A&B). Both types of images can appear at the line level on the quotation. Type A images print in the main report, Type B images are in a subreport. Both the main report & subreport execute a stored procedure to select an image type.
Our issue, when both Type A and B image is selected to print on a 293 line quote. The PDF file size is 44.23MB
When Type A only is selected, the PDF file size is 2.64MB
When Type B only is selected, the PFD file size is 43.95MB.
There are more Type B images that would print at the line level than Type A, but is there any way to compress this down further as it is too large to email.

You mention that you are using Crystal for .NET, but not what version; CR for .NET 2003, 2005, 2008. 2010?
Applying the latest fixes for the correct version of CR would be the first thing to do.
Next, I'd have a close look at image B as it appears to be the one adding the most "bulk". How is this image different from image A?
General tips re. images:
Save the files a BMPs.
When .jpg image is inserted into Crystal Reports it is converted into bitmap format and as the result of the conversion the report may loose some quality, scale and other issues may arise... E.g.; Crystal Reports is not so good a graphics management tool
When an image is saved as a .bmp, then there is no conversion required and thus the quality of the image should be preserved.
Best practice: save the image with high resolution and required size as a .bmp format then insert this image into Crystal Reports.
Resize the image to the smallest possible size and downgrade the DPI to 72. This will ensure your image is as small as possible and Crystal Reports will have to put in the least amount of work to display it.
Have a look ar KB [1241630 - Exporting a Crystal report (XI) to PDF generates a big PDF file|http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/com.sap.km.cm.docs/oss_notes_boj/sdn_oss_boj_bi/sap(bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==)/bc/bsp/spn/scn_bosap/notes%7B6163636573733d36393736354636443646363436353344333933393338323636393736354637333631373036453646373436353733354636453735364436323635373233443330333033303331333233343331333633333330%7D.do]. This KB, may apply to your version of CR, or not. In any case, you will have to use the KB as a guide and determine what the appropriate registry entry would be for your version of CR.
One more thing. Many people like to use jpg files as they are smaller than bmp files. However, as far as Crystal Reports is concerned, this is inconsequential. The report file will be the same size if a file is inserted as a jpg or a bmp. This is due to the jpg conversion to bmp Crystal Reports does internally.
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A great tip for reducing PDF file sizes (e.g. from scanned images)

I just found, and used this tip and was so impressed I had to share it!
http://www.hoboes.com/Mimsy/hacks/quality-reduced-file-size/
By the way, you can also easily combine pdfs using preview. Open the 'main' one that will be your final file. Go to View -> Sidebar. Drag the other pdfs that you want to join right into the side bar. It will just stack them on. Then save.
C.
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Since a while DIAdem optimizes the size of exported PDF-files in a related way as it is suggested here. In principle the PDF-file is exported in a very high resolution, so you can display it in a reader with a very high zoom value (e. g. 6000 %) to look into details of your data. If you have a huge dataset, this could lead in fact to a bigger file size, if data points could be displayed because the high PDF-resolution. But in general, DIAdem only saves information in a PDF-file which is really necessary - but with a high resolution.

PDF file size

I have an HP Officejet 6500 E710n-z (Network) that I use at home to scan into PDFs, and I know exactly how to move the slider from "Smallest size" to "Best quality"
However the size of the PDFs are unacceptably large when image quality is acceptable, and if I move the slider to reduce the size then the image becomes unacceptable. It is impossible to scan a legal document of more than a few legible pages without producing a file size too large to email . I am forced to break these scanned documents into 3-4 page bite-sized chunks.
A simple one page HOA Disclosure form, at 220 DPI and the slider in the middle for balance, produces a 699K PDF. I have used other printer scanners at work (different brands) at the same 200 DPI that results in very clear documents at less than 100K per page.
I believe there is something wrong with HP's scan-to-PDF algorithm. The problem must be due to some unskilled (or flawed) software design. What will it take to have HP or third party developer (and developer staff supervision) take this seriously -- compare HP vs other brand scanners PDF files -- and update the HP drivers to fix this?
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Just a follow up. I went into chat mode with some low-level tech named Nathan, giving him the link to this thread. After reading it, he suggested I can improve file size by using greyscale and 200 DPI. DUH!!!! I complained he was just humoring me, so he said I should call the tech support number.
I did that next and spoke with a very nice young lady who actually DID take me seriously. I could hear her typing away vigorously in the background, capturing every detail of my plea for this to be forwarded up the chain of command for serious consideration. It was clear she understood and captured from me that there are many forum complaints that can be found with a search term "PDF File Size" that are getting weak or unacceptable "solutions" to push the slider left or use lower DPI etc. She also captured my assurances that some competitor brands produce PDF file sizes 20 times smaller for the same image quality.
I believe that this might actually be opened up at a higher level for consideration of an improvement in the compression algorithm. My fingers are crossed. Since I have about 11 months left for warranty support, I plan to contact them once or twice again before it expires, using the same case number to see if there is any progress.
Bottom line: At my default of 200 DPI and 20% image quality, with an average file size for a single sample page producing a file size of 281KB, a 25-page document creates a PDF file that is 7MB! That will just barely make it past the file size limit for my email provider, but might be too large for the recipient. That is still unacceptable, and is forcing me to consider products other than HP for this business purpose.

Question about reducing PDF file size on export

I have a large file that is generates a PDF about 75MB when exported with the "[High Quality Print]" preset. However, I can reduce the size down to to under 5MG in Acrobat if I use the Tools>Flattener Preview>[Medium Resolution] setting (image attached). Is there a way to generate this smaller file directly from InDesign? I couldn't figure out how to do this with InDesign's Flattener Preview or Export options, but it is very likely that I missed something.

Eugene Tyson wrote:
When you choose Smallest File size, it is still using the PDF 1.6 setting.
Change this to Acrobat 4 (PDF 1.3) this will automagically flatten the PDF - which means you shouldn't have to do it in Acrobat.
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If the reason for the very large file size is indeed very complex vector artwork and you are willing to sacrifice quality, conversion of such vector artwork to raster might yield a significantly smaller exported PDF file. To accomplish that conversion, I would personally suggest converting the most offensive (in terms of file size and complexity) of such files in Illustrator (assuming that they were .AI files) and exporting them as .TIF files (to avoid the potential imaging artifacts of JPEG compression).
- Dov

Adobe Acrobat Pro XI 11.0.06 when I reduce file size or try to optimize, I get this error: The document could not be saved. A number is out of range. I do the exact same thing every month and it works. I did it a few days ago and it worked. I receated the

Adobe Acrobat Pro XI 11.0.06 when I reduce file size or try to optimize, I get this error: The document could not be saved. A number is out of range. I do the exact same thing every month and it works. I did it a few days ago and it worked. I receated the pdf, I renamed it. tried to do it before I imported more pages. no go. the 16 mg pdf will normally reduce to 5 or 6

Hi,
Are you facing the issue with any pdf file?
Please try updating Acrobat to 11.0.7 and check.
You might also want to repair Acrobat and see.
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Snow Leopard - Save as PDF file size

Since my Acrobat Printer no longer works after upgrading to Snow Leopard, when I "save as PDF" the file size is several times what the output used to be using the Printer. So saving Illustrator or InDesign files where the Mac OS PDF printer can't be used, I end up with a 600k file that used to be 80k.
Are there settings in the Save As PDF dialog that can get that size down? It always worked fine before for my purposes so I don't know the advantages gained with this huge files size.
Steve Horn

websentia wrote:
But I'm not using the Mac PDF creator. So what I am asking is a way to use the File/Save As/Adobe PDF
That is the Mac PDF creator. The PDF printer is hosed in Snow Leopard so you basically won't be using Acrobat at all.
File/Export/Adobe PDF command or even the Print Dialog/ Adobe PDF
In InDesign? If so, use the smallest file size setting. Also, that's not Acrobat.
websentia wrote:
Distiller still can make small files but with added steps of creating objects that fill the artboard (rectangle with white background or whatever), save as EPS, drop into distiller, then multiply all that by the number of pages in the document..
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PDF file size grows each time form is saved (with no data changes). Why?

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When the form is viewed in Internet Explorer, every time the user saves the form the file size grows (even with no data changes in the form - i.e., open the form, hit save). This is not true if the form is opened in Adobe Reader.
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PDF file size too large

Hi,
I have a report (6i and 9Ids) which contains an image (stored as a blob in the database (8i)). The size of the image in the database (and as a file) is just 750k. The image is sized to fit on to the A4 report page. If I set the desformat of this report to PDF the resulting PDF output file is 10mb in size. I need to make this report available over the web so this is too large. Has anyone got any ideas as to reducing the output file size?
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Hi Andy,
The image you are using might be a JPEG image. In 6i and 9i, while generating the PDF file, Oracle Reports always converts the image to GIF and embed it. This image type conversion increases the file size of the outputimage and hence PDF file size increases. This is fixed in Oracle Reports 10g.
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1. commandline: OUTPUTIMAGEFORMAT
(or)
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Please refer to the Publishing Reports manual to know more about the usage of these commandline/environment variable.
Links:
http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10464_01/bi.904/b10314/pbr_cla.htm#644163
http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B10464_01/bi.904/b10314/pbr_rfap.htm#644448
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Reduce PDF File Size - any ideas?

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I have a C++/C# programs that generates PDF's in Adobe Reader using Infragistics. This is a recent change from using VS View as our old method of illustrating - we now use Infragistics. This has resulted in our PDF File sizes almost doubling due to us now using Bookmarks within the PDFs and also having to embed the fonts. There are some pictures used but these are already very small so they are not the issue. I was wondering does anyone have any ideas of how we could possibly reduce the size again or any possible work arounds.
Any help would be great.
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Where do these EPS files come from Photoshop or Illustrator?
Illustrator
There may be nothing wrong with EPS files technically, they are considered archaic in a modern workflow. Best to save as a .ai with pdf compatible file - or to save them as PDF x4a with Illustrator Editing Capabilities enabled.
But I don't think there's any need to run out and convert all your files - perhaps keep it in mind going forward.
Photoshop
EPS is really not the best format. If it's pure raster then PSD or TIFF would be preferred format, if it's Raster + Vector Shapes, Vector Masks, Text Layers then PDF is preferred over EPS (with photoshop editing capabilities enabled).
File sizes react differently depending on the content on the choice of compression. Heavy Vector files from Illustrator can cause Huge file sizes in PDFs.
See this article (and more importantly the comments!)
http://indesignsecrets.com/creating-smaller-pdfs-from-a-vector-dense-book.php
If you can provide a bit more info on your workflow and what settings you are using to save it would be great.

Using Examine Document Remove increases pdf file size !

Hi,
I have Adobe Acrobat Pro v9.3.0
I've been editing a lot of scanned .pdfs - rotating and cropping pages.
All this has previously worked fine with v8 but now I find that Acrobat 9 is increasing the .pdf file size after using Examine Document and clicking Remove
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original file: 16,861 Kbytes
file after cropping 74 pages (from A4 to A5): 16,879 Kbytes
file after running Examine Document > Remove cropped metadata : 79,914 Kbytes !!!
With Acrobat 8 this process would normally have halved the file size.
Am I now doing something wrong ??
Thanks in advance.

Hello - This problem is still here !
Acrobat 9 Pro version 9.4.2
I've got a .pdf created by an agency (so not a scanned image) which I want to make as small as possible for emailing to hundreds of people (I'll attach it if possible somehow ?)
I open it up when it's 331Kb
Click Document > Examine Document
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Click Remove
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