PDF output with conditional text

I need to create two PDFs from my project, each displaying a different conditional build expression, but I can't figure out how to do it. Selecting PDF Output doesn't show options like, for example, WebHelp does, unless I've missed something in the setup. Is this possible? My reviewers want to review hardcopies although I've tried to convince them that they should look at it as it will be displayed online.

Hi there
See if the video linked below helps.
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Cheers... Rick

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Hi Jeff,
These were good suggestions to try. Saving the document first has no effect on PDF generation.
However, I did find that printing to the Adobe PDF printer remains fast when the conditional text is hidden. That's quite an interesting finding! I did also notice that these two methods of PDF generation aren't identical:
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"Save as PDF" generates a 1188k PDF file, while printing to the Adobe PDF printer generates a 1049k PDF file.
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When I do a "Save as PDF", FrameMaker does still spool to the PDF printer. It is this spooling that takes a long time. Once spooling is complete, then the Distiller window opens and the PDF is created very quickly.
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mt.mz. wrote:
Hello,
We have an classroom book we want to put conditional instructor information into but I'm stumped on how to maintain pagination so that the instructor pages do not have page numbers and the instructor's versions will have the same page numbering (while physically having more pages, due to instructor material) as the student version with the conditional instructor text turned off.
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