PDP with classic scenario
Hello,
I am working with SRM 7.0 and ECC 6.0.
1) I would like to know how do you transfer PR to SRM in classic scenario? Is it the same as for extended classic scenario (using program BBP_EXTREQ_TRANSFER)?
2) How do you create PO in backend for direct procurement in classic scenario ? I was reading different threads and I found that I need to apply a BADI to clear the account information. Is this correct?
Thanks in advance!
Martí
Hi Martin,
As mentioned by SAM, you can transfer the requirements from ECC system to SRM system using newly introduced BAdi 'ME_REQ_Sourcing_cust'. BBP_EXTREQ_TRANSFER' is no longer used. However, your backend ECC system has to be on ECC 6.0 enhancement pack 4. otherwise, you still need to use the prog you have mentioned.
Yes, you can still use classic scenario for direct procurement by claring the accounting info in SRM. there are already number of threads for the custom solution.
Regards,
Ranjan
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Antecedents:
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