PE7 Color Management with a Non Postscript Printer

Hello,
I have an Epson Stylus Photo R800 and images are coming out quite dark, sometimes with a blue cast to them. My monitor is calibrated via the Pantone Huey Pro and I'm curious if anyone could help me in figuring out what adjustments to make so that my prints are "close" to the original. I know that WYSIWYG is not possible, but I should be able to get closer than I am. LOL.
If there are any books or tutorials that would help me in particular, that would be helpful to me as well. I also have the ICC profiles for the Epson paper that I use. The issue in part at least appears to be that PE7 won't manage or allow color to be managed unless the printer is a postscript printer. There don't appear to be any postscript drivers for my printer on the Epson website. Perhaps there are some 3rd party utilities that could help as well.
Thanks!
hselburn

Well I went to the websites mentioned and I found out where to set the printer profile in elements, but it still comes up with the postscript error message, stating that calibration is inherently a postscript function and as the Epson Stylus Photo R800 is not a postscript printer, it turns calibration and color management in general off. *sigh of frustration but not giving up!*
That does explain why the colors are so far off. I wonder how to apply my printer *and* monitor profile to elements. I believe elements uses my monitor profile by default, but if it won't turn postscript off so that it is compatible with my printer, that won't work. Wish I could afford the full photoshop, this might not be a problem then.
I also tried saving the file as a pdf but that did not work. If I'm not mistaken, and I could be, that also includes postscript by default, which as I got the postscript error message again when I tried to print the pdf, I would have to believe it does. Is there a plugin that might help?
Funny thing is the original image is in the .jpeg format, not eps.

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