PE8 selection feathering

Hello-
I'm having a weird issue where the Quick Selection Tool is feathering. I checked Refine Edge and it's all at 0. I checked the eraser and it's set to 100% hardness. But when I erase the selected area, it feathers into the part I'm trying to keep. I tried copy/paste into a new layer and it did the same thing so I'm guessing it's a selection issue. I tried resetting all tools and putting the Refine Edge back to zeros but that didn't help. It's a basic picture with only 3 layers (background copy - blank layer - original background not visible). Suggestions?

The Quick Selection Tool always uses a little anti-alias simalar to having anti-alias checked when using the magic wand, lasso tool, etc.
One thing that might give you a better selection with less of a feathering effect is to check the Auto-Enhance box for the Quick Selection Tool.
MTSTUNER

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Stop Recording.
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Clear as mud right?
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