Pentax K100D PEF Support?

Hi there,
I'm using pentax k100d and also using LR 2.6. Just tried 3.0 version also.
But still, I don't get actual color profile compared to LCD from camera.
I think LR doesn't support exact camera calibration from K100D, K110D and K100Ds.
So to develop my pictures with precise color profile, I have to convert PEF to TIF by PPL, which is very slow bundle program.
You know, it's very annoying process!!
Please let me know how to solve this problem.
thx.

Thank you ssprengel!
PEF files taken by K100D is not fully supported by LR. LR imports PEF files with its own "Adobe Standard Calibration" which is different from what I see in LCD or other viewers like ACDsee.
So my idea was make color profile from DNG file and put it into LR, but I can't load new color profile I made.
I put the .dcp file to:
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles
C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles
but it seems like it's not working.
Maybe my .dcp file is not perfect, because its size is around 1KB..
My another Idea is, modify other pentax camera's color profile e.g. K10D, K20D, K200D or even K-7. I think RAW files taken by those cameras don't has this problem and anyway "Pentax-looking" is almost same among those cameras, I guess. However I can't modify those camera's color profiles simply. I think LR automatically matches camera model and color profile.
So, what can I do?

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I have installed the software that came with my Pentax (i.e. Pentax Photo Browser and Pentax Photo Laboratory) and these applications can display the .PEF images just fine. For what it's worth, I installed this software before I upgraded to Leopard.
If I right-click on a .PEF file in Finder, the only programs listed in the Open context menu are the above two Pentax applications.
So, what am I missing? Clearly something seems to be screwy in my Leopard set up. Is there some way to 'repair' the RAW image support in Leopard??
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Finally, just be aware that I am not an experienced Mac user. I have always used Windows until now and so... if you have a fix for this I would really appreciate a slightly more elaborate response.
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I have done a little more research on this...
As it turns out, my camera is a Pentax K100D Super - not a K100D. The K100D Super is not listed as one of the supported camera RAW formats in the aforementioned article. So I guess this means that my camera is as yet unsupported. Sigh...

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Yes, Apple's kinda slow adopting the more "exotic" brands and camera makes out there. They're focusing on the cameras that users buy most, which makes sense from their point of view. Sadly, that leaves a lot of us in the dust.
I believe that the reason for the very slow integration of new and more exotic cameras into the system is due to the very rigorous quality standards that Apple sets with Raw development.
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yeah,, I know about raw data , and yes, wrong or not, the rendition of gx-10 pictures are very "bad" compared with other softwares and with my eyes, and I think that you can understand when i said "bad" no?, there aren't a wrong or correct in raw color but the people speaks about the wrong o correct colors all the time, i think that you understand when speak about bad colors, a bad WB , etc.
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Hallo zusammen,
ich habe mir vor kurzer Zeit die o. a. Kamera gekauft. Meine RAW-Dateien kann ich mit Photoshop auf den PC überspielen. Jedoch öffnen kann ich sie nicht (Datei beschädigt oder das angegebene Format wird nicht unterstützt). Weiß jemand Rat, wie ich meine RAW-Dateien mit Photoshop öfnnen und bearbeiten kann? Eine neues RAW Update habe ich schon ausprobiert. Es geht trotzdem nicht.
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www.wertvolleswissen.de

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