People Recognition loses "ignore image match" choices

I'm new to Elements but what I'm seeing seems like a glaring bug, so I'm hoping I'm just doing something wrong.
In the organizer, I click "Start People Recognition". After entering some names, it shows me images that "might match", you have to click on a small "x" in the upper right hand corner of the image to "mark that that choice as not matching the person".
The problem is that if you instead double-click on the image to get a larger view of the person so you can verify who the person is (based on context in the rest of the image), when you click the "back button", I found that Elements "forgot or lost the other images that did not match". This is a ROYAL pain in the butt and basically means that you can't really use the "expand to full image" feature (if you've selected any people to be "ignored").
Is this a known bug or is there something I'm doing wrong? Or does elements expect you to click on Save before expanding to the entire image.
I'm using Elements Organizer 9.
Thanks for any help.

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First, as I am no native speaker: please excuse my bad English, thanks.
Does anybody know how to reset the people recognition?
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Once a media item is added to the catalog, a flag is set on that media item telling it that People Analysis has not been executed yet.
If Media-Analysis/Analyze Photos for People Automatically is enabled, the People Analysis will run on newly imported photos. This will identify potential people with the bounding boxes and some data which helps identify the face. This creates the data in the BreezeData folder. I think the bounding box information is also duplicated in the catalog.pse9db file -- but face identification data.
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The people tag information is also stored in the catalog.pse9db file when you 'confirm' a face to the bounding box.
Some flag must be set in the catalog.pse9db file after People Analysis is run on a photo to tell the system that People Analysis has run. This prevents it from running ever again on that particular media item. Running Auto-Analysis will not run People Analysis as it seems these are considered to be separate tasks.
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