Permissions Change on startup normal or wrong?

Hello MacPeople...
I've had a battle with Tiger after I loaded it a few months ago. To make this short, I ultimately found ONE bad block with TT 4.5.2., erased, zeroed the internal drive, cloned back from my FW. Now all seems hunky-dorey....
Here's the problem(?) -- EVERY time I reboot the machine, permissions are changed on three items -- from group (80, me) to 0 root, definitely not me.
Items: last file in resources folders of Activity Monitor, Keychain Access, and ODBC Aministrator.app in Utilities. This does not seem like correct behavior to me.... Any thoughts on the matter. Thanks, Mark

You are probably running a version of Retrospect that is not compatible with Tiger. Tiger's startupItems folder requires permissions that are different from previous OS versions. Make sure you have the latest version of Retrospect Client, which I think is 6.1.126, but might be later. I'm running 6.1.107 and it works.

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{quote:title=V.K. wrote in another thread...:}If I'm not mistaken you told me once a while ago how to modify permissions database which seems to be required there.{quote}
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