Personnel subarea change ?

Hi all,
Need to figure out whether we can change or edit a PERSONNEL SUBAREA. My client is planning to move from 4.6c HR to 4.7 HR. during this change they need to change some of the personnel subarea (i think just rename).So they need to do the necessary changes in 4.6c before they migrate to 4.7. Is there any report that can do the work?
If this is not possible, Is there an option similar to reference personnel number IT 31? so that i can assign the old personnel subarea as reference to the new one.
Thank you people
Niranjan

Hi Niranjan
U can rename the Personnel Subarea name by
SPRO->ENTERPRISE STRUCTURE->DEFINITION->HUMAN RESOURCE->PERSONNEL SUBAREAS.
Then Double click on "Copy, delete, check personnel subarea".
Then Click on "Replace Org Object"(3rd button).
Then Gibve the Old and new name.
This will change the name in every table.
But after doing this U have to change the employee data separately.
Award points if helpful.
~BiSu

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