Perspective grid gets elongated instead of foreshortened

with the perspective grid in 2 point perspective, if I move a vanishing points outward, instead of staying foreshortened the grid gets wider making all objects I place on grid short and stout. this shouldn't be, vanishing sides should always be foreshortened, is there a way to fix this other than eyeballing it and drawing my elevations very skinny?
I was hoping for somewhat accurate perspective.

Placed image do not work interactively with the perspective grid, but there is another way
embed image
draw a rectangle to final size/position you want the image to be
Select both rectangle and embedded image
Object >> envelope distort >> make with top object
For your second question
Draw your square while perspective grid is on
Switch to the perspective selection tool
Now when you move your sqaure it will conform to the perspective

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Use of Perspective Grid (One Point)

I'm new to Illustrator and finding my way around. I found one of the tutorial examples referencing this article on the use of a perspective grid to create a graphic:
http://www.intraligi.com/project/adobe-illustrator-cs5-pre-release-programm.html
Looking at page 4 and seeing how he has the grid set up, I'm unable to create this same grid. For one thing, when I go to View > Perspective Grid > Define Grid, under Grid Color & Opacity, the Right Grid is greyed out. Also, I can't get the horizontal grid lines to extend all the way to the vanishing point, like he's showing in the example.
Can someone please tell me what I'm missing here and why I can't recreate the perspective grid shown?

GlennM_ wrote:
I think I got it now how he created the grid that he used. I believe what he did was use a 2 point Perspective Grid, and then moved the vanishing points so that they were (almost) together, creating a single point.
I can create the same effect this way and that looks like how he did it.
I don't think so, they just moved the grid easy enough to do with the grid tool
Grab th circular end of the guide with the grid tool and drag.

CS5. Deleting a user-defined preset Perspective Grid Preset???

CS5
Mac10.5.8
I want to delete a user-defined preset Perspective Grid Preset.
How can I do this?
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/illustrator/cs/using/WSb8134070d1ccd4cc-123066e6124d7ca3149-80 00.html
• Where do I hit Delete in the Perspective Grid Preset Options dialog box?
• There is no Delete option in the Grid Preset Options dialog box.
• Simply selecting my custom Grid and then hitting Delete on my keyboard does not work either.
What am I missing?
Please advise.
Thank you in advance.
Kathryn

Yippee! It worked.
I was looking at View>Perspective Grid>Define Grid dialog box
I am just getting my feet with CS5 and its new features.
A big thank you, Michael and Mylenium.
Kathryn

Type on Right Side of Perspective Grid

Hi,
I'd like to have a document where I have type skewed on both sides of the perspective grid. I know how to put it on the left side of the grid: Create the type, get the Perspective Grid Selection Tool, select the type and bring it onto the grid and it skews to the angle of the grid. However, when I try to do it on the right hand side of the grid it doesn't allow me. It only lets me angle it on the left hand side of the grid.
How can I get it to write on the right hand side too?
Thanks!

With the Perspective Grid Tool or the Perspective Selection Tool click in the Active Plane Widget to activate the plane you want to work in. If the widget is not visible, double click the Perspective Tool in the Tools panel and activate it. The relevant information is in the Help files.

Perspective Grid: switch orientation on horizontal plane

I have a tall rectangle I want to place on the horizontal plane of the perspective grid.
Clicking that plane in the widget, or slecting the rectangle and hitting 2, results in the rectangle oriented towards the right vanishing point (or 2:00). I need it to point the other way, toward the left vanishing point (to 10:00).
Is there some way to force an object to do that?
Thanks for any help or thoughts on this.
Mark

Well, that's just really annoying. I spent 99 minutes and 31 seconds on the phone with tech support trying to get an answer to this with nothing to show for it.
Thank you, Monika.

Perspective Grid improvements

The new Perspective Grid feature is pretty nice... at first.
But it quickly becomes almost useless as modifying the Grid after Objects are constrained to it does not re-orient the objects.
What's the point? So if we get the Perspective Grid set up, add objects, and if it turns out the Perspective needs to be tweaked... you can't?
It might actually be nicer to have a per-object-based Perspective Tool that does re-transform the object if you move the grid.
And then you could have more than one grid.
Or maybe you could make it so that the Free Transform Tool doesn't redraw the bounding box every time you make a change.

Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Though I have to admit it took me a half hour to get it to work.
And it's still clunky to work with. I don't think I'll be using it much.
And I haven't been able to summon that dialog you show. I've tried double clicking everything with either Grid tool selected. I'm just not seeing it.
Thank you, anyway. I wouldn't dare using the Perpective Tool without this feature.
About the Free Transform Tool:
What I meant was I'd like to be able to freely distort any object or group in order to make a faux perspective.
When you select an object and summon the Free Transform tool you can stretch any corner independent from the other corners using a secret keyboard shortcut which I can't remember anymore. I hate how so many functions are hidden behind secret keyboard presses in order to make something work.
Actually, I just found it in my notes. With the Free Transform Tool you have to start moving a corner, then, and only after you started to drag you can press the Command (or Control) and then you can stretch that point. I made a sample below. I should have made it into a group of objects so it was clearer what was happening.
Anyway, imagine this: say you have a simple rectangle. With the Direct Selection Tool you can move any corner without disturbing the other 3. That's what I'm looking for. I'd like to do that with any object or group. The problem is when you use the Direct Selection Tool to do it, the Bounding Box resets after every move. If you distort it too much, the corner points in the bounding box quickly become harder to use because they are so distant from the "corner" of the object which they are controlling.
In Corel DRAW it's so amazing simple rather than the clunky steps I have to go through to do it in Illustrator (as in the video).

Perspective grid manipulation

I'm playing around with the perspective grid in Ill CS5. I know that, by default, the 3 point perspective grid sort of has you looking at the edge of a cube. Is there a way to 'invert' it so that you get this kind of shape in the 3 point grid (made up of three perpendicular square sheets)? In this image, you are looking at the interior of a join.
http://imgur.com/cxkte0F
Thanks,
Will

Will,
Have you tried to work with Perspective grid presets, as described here?
Illustrator Help | Perspective drawing
It is referred to here,
https://helpx.adobe.com/illustrator/using/perspective-grid.html

Perspective Grid from 3D Extrude Revolve Default

I want to create a perspective grid based on a rectangle that has been 3D extruded and revolved using default settings. The 3D default setting doesn't have any perspective so that means the resulting 3D shape is in 2-point perspective, right? So I should use the 2-point perspective grid and try and draw out all the little widgets and controls to match the sides of the 3D rectangle? That's what I've tried and am having a heckuva time getting the sides to match. Maybe because I can't get those vanishing points out far enough? Or maybe I should be using the 3-point perspective grid to try and model the rectangle with that? I had more trouble with that, though. Not strong with illlustration / perspective, but determined to create a grid that matches! ... Can anyone do this?

Yep. I quit futzing with the perspective grids and just created my own custom isometric grid and was able to accomplish what i set out to. Thanks.

Perspective grid

I don't use the perspective grid often, so sorry if this is a dumb question. I have adjusted the two point grid so that I have mre of an inside versus corner view. Say I create a shape on the red plane. I thought that I could use the perspective selection tool and the alt key to copy it in perspective, but it seems to make it larger when I go back in space and smaller when I come forward, rather than how it should be. If I draw the shape itself on the grid, it will draw correctly, but I thought that I should be able to copy in perspective as well. Am I doing somethin incorrectly? I can copy it in perspective going the other way, say like a several windows along a wall getting smaller, but not like the back of a table getting smaller. Any help or clue as to what I might be doing incorrectly would be appreciated.
Thank you,
Richard

Yes! Thank you. I don't know where either how I missed that or where that was hidden, but I couldn't find that in help anywhere. Thank you again.

My perspective grid vanishing point adjustment is missing.

I was using the perspective grid tool and all of a sudden the selector for my vanishing point dissappeared.
How do I get this back? I have the perspective selection tool selected too BTW.
Thanks
This is what I have:
I'm missing this selector:

Jeff try this...
...Once you have your perspective grid showing, toggle between the two perspective tools as shown below.
TREX

Perspective Grid in Illustrator

I accidentally clicked on the Perspective Grid and now I cannot get it off my workspace. How do I get rid of it? What is this feature anyhow?!
Thanks, Ben

Funny how you find someone who is giving you good advice as scoldig you. Certainly if you did not have access to the help fles on lne and ou tried that and you usually use the help files I would have thought you would have mentioned it in your first post..
Perhaps it was too much trouble.
I am glad you were able to figure it out..
BTW if the help files do not work nex time you can try doin a search on google.
I find it hard to believe that a user that has been using Illustrator since 2007 does not one know wha the prespective grid is and two does not know to do a google search if the files fail. It really is hard to believe.
This just a part of what a googke search will give you I would suggest that you ive it a try so you can get use to the idea thatthere are other users that have gone through a lot of trouble to post this information and it is a shame that there ae are many user IMO who let it go to waste because…well I don't know why.
I know a fair amount about Illustratro and the other Adobe apps and when I need help I do like most users I use the help files and or do a search the user to user forum is best used for issues that might not be available that way or for a user who has tried but just missed something and needs to be pointed in the right direction.
But I am glad youy were able to figure it out.\
I will give you som information about the hiding and showing the perspective grid there is a keyboard shortcut/toggle for this as well. Itis easuily found out.

Perspective Grid confusion

working with the perspective grid and tools and I have some confusion about how the grid behaves and how objects snap TO that grid.
I have snap to grid selected within the Perspective Grid sub-menu. Mostly it works ok. But a couple of pieces I can't to butt up to each other, and when I zoom in, it appears that they are each "obeying" their own grids.
Screenshot shows what I mean. Any thoughts on how I can get all parts to see the same grid to snap to?
thank you!
w

Thanks, that's what I was looking for. Though I have to admit it took me a half hour to get it to work.
And it's still clunky to work with. I don't think I'll be using it much.
And I haven't been able to summon that dialog you show. I've tried double clicking everything with either Grid tool selected. I'm just not seeing it.
Thank you, anyway. I wouldn't dare using the Perpective Tool without this feature.
About the Free Transform Tool:
What I meant was I'd like to be able to freely distort any object or group in order to make a faux perspective.
When you select an object and summon the Free Transform tool you can stretch any corner independent from the other corners using a secret keyboard shortcut which I can't remember anymore. I hate how so many functions are hidden behind secret keyboard presses in order to make something work.
Actually, I just found it in my notes. With the Free Transform Tool you have to start moving a corner, then, and only after you started to drag you can press the Command (or Control) and then you can stretch that point. I made a sample below. I should have made it into a group of objects so it was clearer what was happening.
Anyway, imagine this: say you have a simple rectangle. With the Direct Selection Tool you can move any corner without disturbing the other 3. That's what I'm looking for. I'd like to do that with any object or group. The problem is when you use the Direct Selection Tool to do it, the Bounding Box resets after every move. If you distort it too much, the corner points in the bounding box quickly become harder to use because they are so distant from the "corner" of the object which they are controlling.
In Corel DRAW it's so amazing simple rather than the clunky steps I have to go through to do it in Illustrator (as in the video).

Perspective grid and blends, extrusions. etc.

I'm new to cs5 so please excuse my worn-out observations/questions regarding the perspective grid:
1. Blends do not warp into perspective when on the grid.
2. Symbols cannot be directly swapped without using the workaround of swapping symbols in the symbols palette.
3. Objects cannot be "extracted" from perspective, once they've been warped.
4. Patterns are not distorted.
5. Moving objects perpendicular to current plane requires 4 mouse clicks and typing in a measurement.
6. Grouped objects cannot be moved perpendicular to plane when they do not share the same plane.
I've only started to learn this new feature, so I realize my expectations are WAY out of line, but if anyone has found some useful workarounds I'd appreciate hearing about them.
Thanks,
Ray

Hello Ray,
Although you say you're new to CS5, I find most of your observations are correct.
1. Blends do not warp into perspective when on the grid.
NO. Blends do get projected in perspective. Can you share (screenshot or something) what exactly you are doing so that we can help?
2. Symbols cannot be directly swapped without using the workaround of swapping symbols in the symbols palette.
CORRECT
3. Objects cannot be "extracted" from perspective, once they've been warped.
CORRECT. You don't get the original shape back. This is where you should use symbols if you require frequent editing of the object in its original form.
4. Patterns are not distorted.
CORRECT. Workaround is to expand fill.
5. Moving objects perpendicular to current plane requires 4 mouse clicks and typing in a measurement.
NO
-Objects can be moved perpendicular to the plane by Perspective Selection Tool & the 5 key.
-It requires a double-click by the Perspective Selection Tool on the corresponding plane control widget to invoke the plane positioning dialog.
6. Grouped objects cannot be moved perpendicular to plane when they do not share the same plane.
CORRECT. They cannot be moved together perpendicular to their individual planes. Only the object you click on is moved.

CS5 Perspective Grid Tool

Thanks in advance for ANY help ya'll can give me. I am not new to Illustrator, just new to this most current version 5. I've been working with a version that is way old and finally was able to upgrade. My question is this: I'm trying to do some drawings with the perspective grid tool, but what I'm wanting to create needs to have a different perspective. I'm sorry if I'm not explaining myself very well, I just don't know exactly how to put it. What I'm trying to draw is essentially a view from someone looking out onto a fishing pier into the distant horizon of the pier and the water. The only way I'm getting the grid tool to work is from the normal view which is opposite of what I need. I just don't know how to search or explain exactly what I need. I'm hoping that this group of professionals will understand and can help me out.
Thanks again!!!
Michele

Thanks for responding so quickly. I guess what I'm trying to say is that what I'm trying to create would be from a perspective of going "into" the distance and the PG is showing coming "out" of the distance. Does that help? Is there a way to rotate the perspective to swing it around the other way? Thanks again!

Perspective grid gets elongated instead of foreshortened

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