Petition: EAX in Zen Mi

No EAX features can be found in Zen Micro. Hope that Creative can put such features in Zen Mirco by firmware upgrading. Let's join me to fight for this ! If you also want to be enjoyed with such features, please reply this post to show to Creative that we need such features. Thanks for supporting.Message Edited by Catherina-CL on 0--2005 0:03 PM

Simply speaking, music playback can be enhanced by adjusting customizable 3D spatialization effects & EQ if EAX is included. For details, please kindly refer to http://eax.creative.com/eax.asp . Thanks for all supporting.

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Petition:Make Zen Players Have Different Levels Of Backlight, plus Include EAX for Zen Mi

Message Edited by RockinRox on 0-09-2005 0:24 PM

This petition is to have Zen Players to include different levels of backlight lighting so it does not deplete the battery as quickly. Also this is for EAX to be put in from Zen Micro and other zen players. Plus a new battery life extention in the firmware.
-signed-

Petition to upgrade Zen Micro Photo to view pictures and play music at the same t

As you all are aware the iPod Nano faces off with zen Microphoto. Even though it isn't yet available at Creative.us and after waiting almost a year, I just had to grab one from Best Buy that sold out. I purchased it because of the huge 8GB harddri've, FM stereo receiver (that's how I get to know about new songs) and color photo capabilities. Unfortunately, everytime I try to watch a photo or play a slideshow, the music cuts off without warning and my bright and shiny player isn't a MP3 player anymore.Please, everyone, WRITE CREATIVE via Email and ask them to upgrade the firmware and software to stop turning off the music whenever we play photos. If the iPod Nano can do it... shouldn't the Zen MicroPhoto be able to do it also?Imagine not being able to play your sport team's music while you view your sports picture while you were playing ball. Imagine not hearing your wedding song while you view your wedding photos?Imagine not hearing your graduation song while you look back at your graduation pictures?How very horrible!Please petition Creative to fix this grave injustice please!Thank you ladies and gentlemen!Message Edited by Catherina-CL on 0-7-2005 0:33 PM

So, what you're saying is the iPod uses superior hardware components because they play images and music at the same time, even in the itty bitty Nano. Also, the iPod is able to "shuffle" photos so that you don't get bored seeing the same photos over and over again as in sequential mode.
There are a few players that do support music and photos... some will only limit one song per slideshow.
Furthermore, if you check the Zen Vision manual, creative's newest MP3 multimedia player... it does NOT support photos and music at the same time either.
In my opionion, it's a software issue, like I said, it displays only one image (background) during music play - if it couldn't, it would have shut off the image too. It's not that they CUT OUT creative features, but that they didn't write the software to allow the ZMP to "play" photos and music at the same time.
I mean, you can buy a PC for less than a ZMP and it can run several applications showing music and photo and videos at the same time.
I wouldn't buy the zen micro for nothing... there's just something special about having a color screen. I mean, who buys black & white TV these days?
With X-fi, I'm restoring my MP3 to higher quality, I'm sure the 8GB will come in handy as these filesize will only increase. And I got it because I'm hearing more and more music on the radio that I want to have... so my collection will only increase. I have over ,200MP3 at 320K which stood at 6.5GB.
As for you, consider that you're paying an extra $20 for 2 more GB and a 256K color display. It's well worth it over a 6GB monochrome MP3 player.

Backlight petition? (nomad zen xt

Anyone know if there is a way to make the backlight stay on permanently with the nomad jukebox zen xtra, while it running off of external power (plugged in)? If there currently is not, does anyone else think that it is a good idea? I've searched for this topic and haven't found anything thus far.

Not a good idea as it uses an EL panel with a relati'vely limited life.

PETITION: ABLITIY IN ZEN MICRO's ORGANIZER TO...

be able to make and delte notes on the calander and contacts list from the player its self and not on Microsoft Outlook!!!This would make the zen micro even more versitile. the apple ipod can do it, why can the zen micro?
-signed-

DM wrote:
Nice suggestion..... But if the Zen Micro can play WMA files, why can't the iPod? Somethings just aren't needed....
signed...
But DM, are you serious... Bill Gates and Steve Jobs are like mortal enemies... I doubt the ipod will ever support WMA's, for the same reason it'll probably never be able to play subscription music files, until apple comes out with a subscription music service for itunes.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) BEFORE you post, PLEASE read this first

PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS POST BEFORE POSTING ON THE FORUM FOR THE FIRST TIME!
Welcome to the Creative Labs MP3 Players web forum!
This forum is for discussing issues related to the MP3 players (digital audio players) made by Creative Labs for those in the Americas, Europe and Asia Pacific . Although we're not going to turn away folks from other areas
The primary language of the forum is English, and posting in English is likely to get you a quicker response.
If your question does not relate to Creative MP3 players please find another more suitable forum to post in. If you want to discuss another player, or something not covered by another forum, please use the Off Topic forum.
CONTENTS
How to contact support
Hot topics
General issues
Before you ask your question
When you ask your question
After you ask your question
Low volume issue
Nomad Primer
Nomadness.net FAQs
More useful links
Wishlist and petitions
Suggesting changes
. How to Contact Support
Please note this is a peer forum and Creative's Support staff do not guarantee a reply here. If your issue is urgent, you are within your warranty period and/or you do not get a fast reply here you should contact Creative Labs Technical Support.
To contact support click the Support > Contact Customer Support link on this page.
When contacting Creative Support by email it's important to note that you must reply to the autoresponse email you first receive, as detailed in the email itself. Also make sure to check any spam trap you have on your email system if you have not received a reply.
It's also important if you feel that you have a bug or defect with your product to register that issue directly with support. Don't rely on the forum to raise awareness of an issue.
2. Hot Topics
This is dividied into 3 sections: General, Tag based players & USB mass storage players.
Make sure to also look at Section 3, which covers some of the other General Issues.
General
Where do I get the latest software, drivers and firmware?
Click the link Support > Downloads on this page.
In general, when installing on a new PC you need to download the driver, and some software to communicate with the player e.g. MediaSource, Media Explorer. For players using the v2.xx MTP/PlayForsure firmware drivers are not necessary, but you must have Windows XP and Windows Media Player 0 (this provides the MTP driver).
Important: Even though files are described as updates, none of the software requires a previous version to install. At worst they will prompt you to connect your player to verify you own a Creative product.
Note if you are downloading MediaSource make sure to download and install the relevant MediaSource plugin for your player. If MediaSource can't detect your player this is the first thing to check. For the v.xx PDE firmware the plugin is called the Creative Zen and NOMAD Jukebox plugin for Creative MediaSource , and for the v2 MTP/PlayForSure firmware it's called Creative MediaSource Plugin for PlaysForSure devices .
I am completely new to MP3 players, where should I start?
Have a read of my Nomad Primer, so called as Creative's MP3 player range tend to be prefixed with the word Nomad.
I think I have a bug, how can I check?
There's a known bug list hosted at my site here. If you want to add a bug then please
I have a wish request for the player, what can I do?
You can post it here (see the petitions listed in Section of this FAQ), email it to support, and/or add it to the public wishlist I host here by
I'm having connection problems with my player
If you can, the best test is to try your player with another PC, to see if you still have the problem. This localises whether the problem is with the PC (most likely the USB) or the player. See the link below (search on "connection problems") for a lot more troubleshooting on this.
What bit-rate should I encode my music at?
Ultimately it's down to your ears what bit-rate you prefer, and you should listen for yourself to determine it. If you ask on the forum you'll get many different opinions.
Make sure to look at the "MP3 vs. WMA" link below also.
How long should my battery last?
For the Zen and Nomad Jukebox players, to get some idea of how long your battery will last for a given bit-rate look at the battery curves thread. Ultimately battery life is dependent on how you use the player, make sure to follow the "why doesn't my battery last as long as expected?" link below.
How long does an RMA take?
Typically 2 weeks. But it might take a little longer, so don't start posting if it's 5 days.
I want to know how people feel about their Zen Micro/Touch/MuVo etc.
There's a long post titled Experience with your Creative player that has many posts from users about their players. Please search back for threads about specific players before starting a new thread.
Where can I buy online music or get legal downloads for my player?
See this thread.
My tracks don't play at the correct speed e.g. they play too slowly, why?
Chances are they are encoded in an unsupported sampling frequency. The tracks will need to be re-encoded at a supported bit-rate and/or frequency with something like Creative's MediaSource Audio Converter or dbPowerAmp.
Can a Creative player work on an Apple Mac?
It isn't officially supported, but some kind folks out there have written freeware applications to get your Creative player working with Macs. XNJB provides support for the Zen players, and requires OS X 0.3 or 0.4 (check the site for full details). MuVoHelper solves some problems with getting the MuVo to work optimally. The iTunes Zen plugin should support all Zen players. Note if the link to the plugin is broken just Google "iTunes Zen plugin" to find other sources. Also note there's no guarantee that these programs will work with the Mac, so if you have issues you should address your problems to the developer(s) of the relevant program.
Can a Creative player work on Linux?
Again it isn't officially supported, but again some kinds folks out there have written freeware applications to get your Creative player working. There's the Gnomad2 project. And don't forget the Linux forum at Nomadness.net if you are still having problems.
Tag Based Players
This section covers the players that use a hard disk and work using tags e.g. Zen Xtra, Touch, Micro, Sleek.
My Zen is not behaving properly, won't startup, or goes into rescue mode. What should I do?
If the Zen is not starting properly or not behaving correctly, first try to reset it. To reset all players except for the Zen Micro there is a small switch on the side of the player typically, that you should press using something like a bent paper clip. Don't use anything sharp. To reset the Zen Micro simply remove the battery and replace it.
If this doesn't work then access rescue mode, and try running a disk cleanup.
Next you should try reloading the firmware/OS, but beware if you are having connection problems also with your PC you may end up with a player that has no firmware and cannot be reloaded.
The last resort is to format the player. This will erase the contents from the player, including the content that ships with the player.
If none of these resolve the problem and you are under warranty you should get in contact with support to arrange replacement of the player.
If you aren't under warranty Creative will still repair the player, which you can arrange by contacting support.
How do I do a Disk Cleanup and/or access Rescue/Recovery Mode?
Refer to the sticky Rescue Mode thread. Disk Cleanup is accessed from this. Note that the MuVo players (with the exclusion of the MuVo? players) do not have Rescue Mode.
How long should a Disk Cleanup take?
It should only take a few minutes, and no longer than 30 minutes. Anything longer than this and there is a problem with the player and you need to contact Creative Support.
How long should a format take?
Only a few seconds. Anything more than a minute and there is a problem with the player and you need to contact Creative Support.
Although I can get into Rescue Mode, I can't select any option, or the options don't work?
If Rescue Mode is not working properly or commands can't be chosen the player is faulty. You need to contact Creative Support.
When are the Zen 20Gb/Neeon going to be released outside of the Asia Pacific region?
Due to popular request the Neeon is launched in the USA, but nowhere else for now. If you want the Neeon then contact your regions Customer Services to request it.
The Zen 20Gb is available from some shops in the USA and Europe e.g. Cambridge Soundworks, and Amazon.co.uk.
Is there a known issue with the Zen Micro headphone socket?
Creative Support have neither confirmed nor denied it officially. Some users have posted purported emails from Creative on the forum saying that the socket has been reinforced, but these have not been confirmed by Creative Support either. The exact incidence of the problem is unknown, but newer players seem to suffer less from it.
Should I buy the Zen Micro or Touch etc. and what colour should it be?
We can't tell you what player to get, or what colour it should be. Look at your collection size and the features of the player (see Nomadworld.com for the product pages) and decide yourself based on this.
Why does my Zen Micro battery drain so quickly?
The standby time (24 hours from turn-off) for the Zen Micro seems to use a lot more power than previous Zens. Creative have released both v (..0+) and v2 (2.20.05+) firmware that reduces the standby time to 4 hours. Make sure to update to one of these if you have a draining problem.
Also see JazzMC's detailed page on this problem.
Why is my Zen Micro/Touch Touchpad so sensiti've and/or difficult to use?
The Touchpads take some time to get used to.
continued below... Message Edited by SSR on 2-29-2005 04:03 PM

7. Low Volume issue
See here in the Zen FAQ at Nomadness.net.
If the firmware will not apply because it says the version number is the same use the Reload OS option, access to which is described in the relevant FAQ for your player below.
8. Nomad Primer
If you have ordered, or just bought a Nomad Jukebox, Zen, or MuVo?, consider reading the Nomad Primer.
It may be worth reading even for the more experienced User.
9. Nomadness.net FAQ's
General FAQ
Jukebox FAQ
Jukebox 2 FAQ
Jukebox 3 FAQ
Jukebox Zen FAQ
MuVo FAQ
Nomadness.net is the foremost peer site on the Web for the Nomad players on the Internet; with news, articles, web forum, download archi've, and more!
0. Some more useful links
Nomadworld.com - Creative Labs's International Nomad website (based in the USA)
Player Manuals - Downloads of digital manuals
Notmad Explorer - 3rd party software
Battery Uni'versity - very good, comprehensi've site on batteries
Chinese Support thread - with information on how to get chinese characters on your player
. Wishlists and petitions
Here are links to a number of general wishlist and petitions, so rather than starting your own you can add to those that already exist, or of course add your support for a feature you would like to see.
Also remember that the only collecti've public wishlist is maintained here at StainlessSteelRat.net (this is not affiliated with Creative Labs, but maintained by the author of this FAQ). There is also a bugs list here. So please
Wishlists
Zen Micro
Zen Micro (another)
MuVo Sports C00
MuVo N200
Petitions
AAC support
Lossless codec support
MP3 Pro support
Ogg Vorbis support
Audible support
Genre definable EQ
Gapless playback
Games support
Insert to queue
No "the" in Music Library
Open source firmware
Play count and ratings
TXT viewer
USB mass storage / dri've letter support
Track number duplicate checkAlbum art
Substring search
Dual firmware for both tag and dri've letter support
Rename "Reload OS" to "Erase OS"
Zen Micro alarm enhancements
Zen Micro always visible clockZen Micro Audible support
Zen Micro customisable standby time
Zen Micro EAX
Zen Micro radio enhancements
Zen Touch non-PlayForSure firmware with bug fixes
Zen Touch bookmarks
Zen Touch EAX support
Zen Touch random button changeZen Touch Audible support
2. Suggesting changes
To suggest changes to this FAQ please
Thanks for reading!

A Petition to ask Creative to update the firmware of the Zen Touch to Include EAX capabiliti

Hi. I have been looking for a new hard dri've MP3 player and am thinking about getting the Zen Touch. But I was unhappy that creative removed the EAX functions that were in their other players. I will be sending this to creative to show them that people do like EAX in the player. If you would like to help me with this you can post and leave your name. Thanks! This was taken off of the creative Zen Extra?s website describing EAX: Customize Your Audio Playback with Innovati've EAX? Technologies Advanced EQ lets you customize your music playback with Equalizer presets or set your own using the 4-band custom equalizer Smart Volume Management? adjusts the playback volume of all the tracks on your playlist so they will remain at the same level without you reaching for the volume control between songs! Time Scaling speeds up or slows down an audio track with no distortion Sleep Timer and Wake to Music Feature Environmental Effects simulate audio environments such as "Concert Hall" or "Arena" Spatialization Effects expand your soundstage
See here: http://eax.creative.com/nomad/ To go to the EAX website to learn some more.
If you look HERE on the little flash demo you can see in the LCD screen of the touch that this picture of the touch HAS EAX. If the touch had EAX and creative removed it just before selling it then it must be easy to put back in.
Update:

Hi everyone.
So I just went through all through posts to see how many names we have, and it turns out that there was much more discution than I thought there was. With all the names from the thread and from what UT-king has added we have ~556~ names. Its less than what I thought it was, but its still really good.
The thread has been read 6795 times, has been posted on 36 times, and has a 5 star rating.
Thanks every one for helping me with this !
Here is the post that has the signatures that UT-King has collected. http://forums.americas.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=dap&message.id=4732#M4732 You will need to scroll down a bit as it is the 5th post on that page
Uptaded on 4/27/05

Message Edited by Torstein on 04-28-2005 06:54 AM


Spetznaz24 wrote:
I agree, Creative needs to put the EAX function back and allow for it to be USB MASS Storage Device without drivers,
Sergey K.
I agree with the EAX Function back, and also the USB MASS Storage Device.dzyl-

Whatever happened to the Zen Touch EAX Petiti

I saw it a while back and now it doesn't seem to be anywhere. Was there any word on what is going to happen? Is Creative considering it's

Dear Justin,
The Zen Touch 40GB does not have EAX effects and we do not know when the
firmware update will be released.
Please, keep checking on our website or register your email address so
that we can notify you when new updates becomes available.
We appreciate your interest.
Please retain all the previous correspondence when replying to this
email.
Best Regards
Direct Sales
Creative Labs Americas
"Get Creative"Message Edited by Jason-CL on 02-8-2005 02:35 AM

PETITION: This is what I would like to see in a new firmware upgrade for the MTP ZEN TO

FIXES:
-Ensures correct playback on the player of Zencast audio content that has been transferred using Zencast organiser. Remaining time is displayed correctly, and rewind / fast-forward functions can be used
- Allows users to transfer tracks between folders on the player when using a program such as Creative Mediasource [THIS IS NEEDED FOR ALL MTP PLAYERS]
- Allows charging via USB when the player is not being used by a program or is low on battery [THIS FEATURE SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN REMOVED BY MTP UPGRADE]
ENHANCEMENTS / ADDITIONAL FEAUTRES [I HAVE LISTED THESE BY MY PERSONAL ORDER OF PREFERENCE]:
) Allows the playback of Audible content types ,2,3,4 on the player, via a plug-in in Audible Manager
2) Adds bookmarking feature to the player
3) Adds SmartVolume EQ feature to the player
4) Adds DJ menu to the player
5) Allows user to partition a section of the player for data transfer
6) Allows user to synchronise tasks from Outlook to the player
7) Allows TXT files/ Ebooks to be stored/ viewed on the player
8) Adds BassBoost EQ feature to the player
PLEASE SIGN THIS PETITION TO URGE CREATIVE TO INTRODUCE AT LEAST SOME OF THESE FIXES / FEATURES IN A FIRMWARE UPGRADE FOR THE MTP ZEN TOUCH - also please feel free to add other suggestions that would improve the functionality of the Zen Touch
Message Edited by joshua32 on 05-30-2006 :7 PM
Message Edited by joshua32 on 05-30-2006 :8 PM

all of these would be awesome, as would lyrics support, I REALLY want that

EAX splash screen only - not able to start the main menu Zen Xtra 3

I have purchased this six months ago. Warranty expired. When I turned the mp3 player, the EAX logo appears but does not do anything. I tried to setup using the clip. But no luck. Any suggestions...
Thanks

Thanks, Guru.
But I still have problem with loading the songs. It says the palyer is busy.
I formated the hard disk and it does formats, it does cleanup and loads the OS on the the Zen. For a while, thought it could the hard dri've, but it does formats the dri've. What is the latest firmware for this player?. It takes long to appear the rescue mode after powering the player.
Any idea ?
Thanks
Jay

Petition: Zen Micro's "Standby" time length to be user selecta

Currently, when you turn your Zen Micro off, it actually goes into "Standby" mode. The Zen Micro stays in a "Standby" ready state for 24 hour from the last time it was turned off. After 24 hours, the Zen Micro goes into a "Deep Sleep" mode.
"Standby" uses considerably more power from the Zen Micro's battery than "Deep Sleep" mode does. The difference between the two modes is that your Micro will be ready to use almost instanty if turned on from "Standby" and will take approximately 5 seconds to be ready to use if turned on from "Deep Sleep".
This petition is for a user selectable menu item to be added to the Zen Micro's "System/Player Settings" menu to adjust "Standby" - anywhere from a setting of "off" to "24" hours in whatever increments Creative feels are appropriate with 24 hours as default.
If this option were implemented, those who did not mind waiting 5 second for their Micro to be ready to play music would find their batteries last longer if leaving the Micro idle for some time because it would not be draining power in "Standby". Those who use the Zen Micro often, could leave "Standby" at 24 hours, so the player would be ready immediately for them. It's a win-win option.
Please note, this petition isn't a discussion thread - it's simply to show Creative if there is interest from Zen Micro owners for such an option being added to a future firmware update from Creative.
Thank-you and please consider signing.<Update (March 28th, 2005): 45 signatures collected in this petition at the time of this edit! Thank-you everyone and please keep them coming!JazzMC has taken the initiati've and written a sort of FAQ with all the information to date gathered in one place regarding this power drain of the Zen Micro while off (in standby). It's a great read for those who want more information about the subject and you can view the document by clicking here: Zen Micro Power Loss. Thanks JazzMC!Message Edited by Moxy on 03-29-2005 2:39 PM

Moxy wrote:
This petition is for a user selectable menu item to be added to the Zen Micro's "System/Player Settings" menu to adjust "Standby" - anywhere from a setting of "off" to "24" hours in whatever increments Creative feels are appropriate with 24 hours as default.
I couldn't agree more!
Signed.
Bianca

Petition: Ability to create, name and edit FM presets on the computer for the Zen Mi

Sign here if you want to be able to change, create and name your radio presets on the computer and then send them to the Zen Micro. Doing it on the player is tedious when you're trying to name a lot of presets, as well as Disk Cleanup, which erases all the presets.

FULL SUPPORT. Create, modify, backup...
good ideas never die.
- an old thread about this, including a response from Jeremy (moderator)
- old similar request (but a petition is better) ;-)

Zen stuck...in EAX screen, in ScanDisk, when removing OS....also when formatti

Zen 20 GB 2.0 USB
Won't do a thing.
Gets stuck in EAX screen on Boot-up. Gets stuck in ScanDisk on Cleanup. Gets stuck erasing OS when reloading OS. Gets stuck formatting.
Help?

Sounds like your player is faulty, unfortunately. I'd contact Creative to organise a replace/repair. Bad luck

PETITION: Mini games in a future Zen Micro firmware upgr

I think it would be an excellent idea for Creative to involve some kind of mini game(s) in a future firmware upgrade for the Zen Micro. My reasons are as follows:
iPods and even iPod Minis both have simple mini games, this could be a good selling point.</LI>
A simple Pong- like game would be perfect to play while listening to music, when waiting in a movie theatre, etc. (I mentioned Pong because the Micro's set up is perfect for it).</LI>
This could be a potential make-or-break selling point for the Micro, as one of the only things that I see better with the iPod over the Micro is it's few games.</LI>
The games don't need to be anything big, but like I said, something simple like Pong to do while waiting. Thank you for reading my petition and it would be great if you signed.
Message Edited by nickermell on 06-24-2005 07:8 PM

There's already a petition for this here.
If you look in the FAQ Part 2, I've listed all the major petitions and wishlists.

Zen Xtra Stops Loading At the EAX Screen..

Well the other day while I was listening to music the player froze up so I had to reset it. After taking it out of its protecti've case thingy, I went to click the reset button when the player slipped out of my hands and dropped on the floor. Now the player only goes to the EAX screen and makes clicking noises for a bit, and then transfers over to the Rescue Mode screen. I have tried "percussi've maintenance" a bunch of times... maybe I am hitting it wrong? I set the player on the table and hit the side. Any suggestions?

Percussi've maintenance usually involves holding the player with one hand, and giving it a hard slap with the other. There is another technique described here in the Zen FAQ at Nomadness.net.
Of course this is always a last resort, and the problem may not be jammed heads.

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