Petition: Zen Micro's "Standby" time length to be user selecta

Currently, when you turn your Zen Micro off, it actually goes into "Standby" mode. The Zen Micro stays in a "Standby" ready state for 24 hour from the last time it was turned off. After 24 hours, the Zen Micro goes into a "Deep Sleep" mode.
"Standby" uses considerably more power from the Zen Micro's battery than "Deep Sleep" mode does. The difference between the two modes is that your Micro will be ready to use almost instanty if turned on from "Standby" and will take approximately 5 seconds to be ready to use if turned on from "Deep Sleep".
This petition is for a user selectable menu item to be added to the Zen Micro's "System/Player Settings" menu to adjust "Standby" - anywhere from a setting of "off" to "24" hours in whatever increments Creative feels are appropriate with 24 hours as default.
If this option were implemented, those who did not mind waiting 5 second for their Micro to be ready to play music would find their batteries last longer if leaving the Micro idle for some time because it would not be draining power in "Standby". Those who use the Zen Micro often, could leave "Standby" at 24 hours, so the player would be ready immediately for them. It's a win-win option.
Please note, this petition isn't a discussion thread - it's simply to show Creative if there is interest from Zen Micro owners for such an option being added to a future firmware update from Creative.
Thank-you and please consider signing.<Update (March 28th, 2005): 45 signatures collected in this petition at the time of this edit! Thank-you everyone and please keep them coming!JazzMC has taken the initiati've and written a sort of FAQ with all the information to date gathered in one place regarding this power drain of the Zen Micro while off (in standby). It's a great read for those who want more information about the subject and you can view the document by clicking here: Zen Micro Power Loss. Thanks JazzMC!Message Edited by Moxy on 03-29-2005 2:39 PM

Moxy wrote:
This petition is for a user selectable menu item to be added to the Zen Micro's "System/Player Settings" menu to adjust "Standby" - anywhere from a setting of "off" to "24" hours in whatever increments Creative feels are appropriate with 24 hours as default.
I couldn't agree more!
Signed.
Bianca

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Petition: Zen Micro customisable standby t

The link from the FAQ returned a "Page not Found". It probably drop off from the forum already so i am gonna create a new one. Since battery life is a big issue for zen micro, i believe a user customisable standy time would be very useful to increase the battery life. And 4 hours is still a very long time, and if it's up to me, i would set it to 5-0 minutes for my zen micro to enter sleep mode. Why 4 hours anyway? that's 4 hours of uneccessary battery wastage. I believe when most people shut off thier player, they want it off, as in completely "OFF".
Sign the petition if you fell the same way, hopefully it'll be implemented in the next firmware update, whenever that's gonna be.

Moxy wrote:
This petition is for a user selectable menu item to be added to the Zen Micro's "System/Player Settings" menu to adjust "Standby" - anywhere from a setting of "off" to "24" hours in whatever increments Creative feels are appropriate with 24 hours as default.
I couldn't agree more!
Signed.
Bianca

Petition: Zen Micro Removable Disk memory space up to 5

Hi happy owners of Zen Micro Player!
First of all, I would like to congratulate Creative for their Zen Micro Player which is really great. But as usual, customers still want the best and try to get a product that really answers their needs. That's why I'm writting this petition to improve the Zen Micro Player options.
I simply ask Creative to update a firmware in which it would be possible to set up the Removable Disk memory space up to maximum capacity that is 5Go instead of limiting it to 2Go!
So follow me, sign my petition and ask for more, ask for more USB mass storage memory!!!
Thank you very much!
Hello from France to everybody!

you mean Gb, Gigabits.
And if you have firmware 2.00.2, connecting your player to any XP system will make it show up in "My Computer" as a removable device. You can browse it using explorer and drag&drop files as you wish. This means you can use up all of it's available space for files.
But, I think you got a point. It will not be recognized on 9x systems, unless you enable the removable dri've option, and it would be nice to be able to use it as a removable HD if you needed it.
Consider this your first signature.

PETITION - ZEN MICRO UPGRADE PROGRAM TO ZM PH

The Zen Micro has cause a lot of heartaches, disappointments and have left a lot of customers frustrated with the quality, stability and effecti'veness of Creative's customer service, yet, they are still pushing for the Fall/Winter to come out with the Zen Micro Photo:
http://www.engadget.com/entry/234000630054279
I petition that if Creative is going to come out with a newer version of the Zen Micro, that should allow customers and a chance to upgrade their Micro, to HOPEFULLY *fingers crossed* a more stable version of the Zen Micro with a possible small fee or difference.
The latest claims, which Im sure will be disproved by the Customer Testers of the Micros:
5hr battery life
8GB Harddri've
0 Colors
$250 US
SIGNEDMessage Edited by chadownight on 08-25-2005 05:28 PM

This idea doesn't make any sense to me, other than letting current Micro owners get something better for cheap, which is not the business that Creative is in. (When I say "better" I mean more features, not better quality.) What about owners of other Creative models? Should they get this upgrade? Should owners of the Zen Xtra and Touch get upgrades to the Sleek? Creative would have to hire an entire new department just to handle these upgrades.
If you had problems with your original Micro why didn't you take it up with Creative? They should have been able to do something to help you out with it. If you did take it up with Creative, you should be satisfied with the Micro you have by now. Creative told me last week (before I got my Sleek, when I was still considering the Micro) that all the hardware issues had been resolved; presumably this means all new Micros have corrected hardware. So if to resolve your complaint they sent you a new one, it would be the improved one, the Zen Micro 2.0, if you will.
I could see perhaps if Creative offered some nominal discount to owners of Zen Micro (non-photo) who wanted to send their old unit in for recycle; then the user could get, say, a $20 off the Micro Photo. Otherwise this isn't really a good marketing decision; it's just pandering to Zen Micro owners. If you want the Micro Photo, buy it. If you want to switch to another brand, do it.
Another two cent contribution.

Zen Micro Charger - for times when you aren't near a power source for day

Hi All ... now this may seem like a strange request and i'm not sure whether it would be possible but here goes..
As a traveller around the world there is many the time when i am away from a power source for a number of days maybe 5. This means i would either have to carry alot of precharged batteries around or to find another way to charge up my Micro battery/s.
With this in mind i was thinking ... could i use any other method to charge my battery (being as there is no power source available .. including a laptop) So could i build a solar panel of some description ? Could i create a charger using Ordinary Alkaline batterys ... Any suggestions?
I'll probably have to buy 5 or more batteries in the end .. but it was just a thought.
Thanks in advance for any ideas you may have.

interesting topic, other then camping, i can't see a time, for me at least, where this would be relevant, but a solar charger sounds like an interesting idea none the less. this is the time i bring along my minidisc player that uses AA batteries of which i have an infinite supply :smileyvery-happy: Other then that, i have this tire inflater that has a built in recharable 2v battery. the nice thing about it is it has a cigarette lighter type DC jack on it. i haven't tried it to charge but i'm sure if you got a DC - USB charger it could work (on a camping type expedition that is, you wouldn't want to drag it onto a train)
which brings me to another point, why is is that most portable players have to use some proprietary battery format? i know that SIZE is prolly the *biggest* reason but i just don't understand why you can't build a small player that runs on something standard like AA or AAAs. i don't mind having an extra battery around but at $40 or so per battery, there ain't no way i'm buying like 5 or 6 batteries. sheesh!
Message Edited by steveski on 03-02-2005 08:54 PM

--- **Petition for a better alarm functionality on Zen Micro/xtra/touc

Would anyone join me in thinking that the alarm function on the Zen Micro could be improved by being able to select; a playlist, particular song and an alarm volume?Message Edited by Jason57 on 03-27-2005 07:54 AM

Creative looks at these petitions, but don't integrate any into firmware
Signed, it would be cool if it ever happened.

Saving Battery Power on Zen Micro(Origina

Well my original battery on my zen micro is giving my zen micro issues. Usually after about 5 minutes the battery begins to die and everything just freezes. So I've gotten a new battery everything is fine now. HOWEVER! My sister bought her Zen Micro the same time I bought mine but her battery is working fine as ever. Why is that? Isn't there a way to conserve my battery power? Aside from upgrading to the latest firmware? (NOTE: The last time I was on the Creative Boards, the firmware that gave the Zen Micro a 4 hr [around that] sleep mode). Usually, once my zen micro is done charging, it turns off by itself and I just leave it plugged it until the next time I use it. Does this affect the battery in any way? If so, would it be recommended that everytime I finish charging and using the zen micro that I take off the battery? I rarely use it, just when I go out so....yeah...respond back when you can, thanks.

Umbrella_SWAT wrote:
Creative, it's been a few days now... I really would like to get this question answered please...
As the (red) announcement at the top of each board says, this forum is not for support, it is for user interaction. We reply to threads when we can, but it should not be expected, the forum is here so people can interact with eachother (share tips, help eachother, talk about products, and so on).
Could be your battery was failing, or if you left it without charging for long periods (stored). If you leave it charging but don't unplug it right away when it's charged it should be fine, but do you mean you're leaving it for days/weeks (plugged in) before you use it again?
Cat

Zen Micro and Windows Vista

I am not a techy person, have had a Zen Micro player for many years, only use it on holidays! A couple of years ago had to get a new desk top PC - it has Windows Vista. I'm I right in saying that this is not compatable with the Zen Micro? Last time I uploaded music I did it on someone else's PC but don't have that option now.
Is there anything I can do?

Hello UK2008,
These threads should help you with your inquiry.
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Creative zen micro transfer prob

When using Napster to transfer songs to my zen micro mp3 player the following happens.
License storgae is not working.Contact microsoft product support.
When I hit click here for more information nothing happens.
It has worked previously without any problems! Can anybody help??

Here is a list of things to check:
) Confirm you have Windows Media Player 0 installed on your XP SP or later system.
2) Confirm your Zen Micro has the latest 2.x firmware (2..02 Beta or later). The .x firmware does not support N2G. Download the 2..02 Beta firmware from http://us.creative.com/support/downloads
3) Confirm KB8922 "Update for Windows Media Digital Rights Management-enabled players" is installed on your XP SP or later system with WMP 0. See http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;8922 for details.
4) Confirm your Zen Micro's system time is synched to the system time of your computer.
5) Confirm XP and the Napster client recognize your Zen Micro is connected. It should display under the "Portable Device" object in the "Library" window of the Napster client. The Zen Micro Display should read "Docked". See if you can transfer files using WMP 0. Confirm the Creative Zen Micro Media Explorer version .00. ( http://us.creative.com/support/downloads ) can access your Zen Micro. Can it transfer tracks to the device?
6) Confirm your firewall is not interfering with the connection to Napster or to the internet for current date and time. Consider disabling firewall, Antivirus, and Spyware Scanners as a diagnostic step to troubleshoot your transfer issue.
7) Consider reinstalling Windows Media Player 0 and KB8922.
8) Check the USB cable connection. Determine the USB chipset on your system. There are forum threads where users resolved transfer problems by installing a new USB Adapter with a different chipset or determined the problem was the USB cable. You can also troubleshoot by attempting the transfer on another computer (if available).

Zen Micro - Clean

How much time does a "Clean Up (Performs a disk scan on the players harddisk)" take?
Following lockup issues I follwed the instructions on this site, selecting option Clean up. The dialog "Scan Disk..." appeared and remained for 50 minutes. In the process the device became hot!
Neil

2 hours later and I still do not have a working Micro. I fully charged the battery and went back into rescue mode and ran the clean up (scan disk... screen) left it to run through the night.
This morning the device had powered off. Upon power on the clean up not fix the issues and still got Creative screen and device locked up.
So 3 hours ago I went back into rescue mode and ran the clean up and currently the device is displaying the (scan disk... screen).
This Zen Micro sucks big time. I have had it less than 48 hours, had it working for less than 3 hours and battery recharged 3 times.
Where can I get detailed instructions on rescue modes? For instance why you should select certain options, what it will do, what you should not do during the process, how long it should take, if it fails, etc. That is what I would typically expect from a reputable manufacturer.

How can I make a timer that turns on two relay channels where each channel can be on for different times of 0 to 10 seconds user selectable

I am trying to make it clearer, I use a scxi-1161 and two of its relay channels to operate an MOV. I want to be able to apply power to two different pins on the MOV using two seperate relay channels.. but I want to be able to have it automatically cycle the two pins on and off by what time (in seconds) the user selects.. and the selection can be changed during cycling.

Sorry I can't convert back to 5.1, but here are some pictures that might help. The mechanical action for the Start and Stop buttons is Latch When Released. In LabView 5.1, the While loop doesn't have a Stop if True option so you'll need to add an inverter between the terminal for the Stop button and the Continue terminal of the While loop.
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Petition to upgrade Zen Micro Photo to view pictures and play music at the same t

As you all are aware the iPod Nano faces off with zen Microphoto. Even though it isn't yet available at Creative.us and after waiting almost a year, I just had to grab one from Best Buy that sold out. I purchased it because of the huge 8GB harddri've, FM stereo receiver (that's how I get to know about new songs) and color photo capabilities. Unfortunately, everytime I try to watch a photo or play a slideshow, the music cuts off without warning and my bright and shiny player isn't a MP3 player anymore.Please, everyone, WRITE CREATIVE via Email and ask them to upgrade the firmware and software to stop turning off the music whenever we play photos. If the iPod Nano can do it... shouldn't the Zen MicroPhoto be able to do it also?Imagine not being able to play your sport team's music while you view your sports picture while you were playing ball. Imagine not hearing your wedding song while you view your wedding photos?Imagine not hearing your graduation song while you look back at your graduation pictures?How very horrible!Please petition Creative to fix this grave injustice please!Thank you ladies and gentlemen!Message Edited by Catherina-CL on 0-7-2005 0:33 PM

So, what you're saying is the iPod uses superior hardware components because they play images and music at the same time, even in the itty bitty Nano. Also, the iPod is able to "shuffle" photos so that you don't get bored seeing the same photos over and over again as in sequential mode.
There are a few players that do support music and photos... some will only limit one song per slideshow.
Furthermore, if you check the Zen Vision manual, creative's newest MP3 multimedia player... it does NOT support photos and music at the same time either.
In my opionion, it's a software issue, like I said, it displays only one image (background) during music play - if it couldn't, it would have shut off the image too. It's not that they CUT OUT creative features, but that they didn't write the software to allow the ZMP to "play" photos and music at the same time.
I mean, you can buy a PC for less than a ZMP and it can run several applications showing music and photo and videos at the same time.
I wouldn't buy the zen micro for nothing... there's just something special about having a color screen. I mean, who buys black & white TV these days?
With X-fi, I'm restoring my MP3 to higher quality, I'm sure the 8GB will come in handy as these filesize will only increase. And I got it because I'm hearing more and more music on the radio that I want to have... so my collection will only increase. I have over ,200MP3 at 320K which stood at 6.5GB.
As for you, consider that you're paying an extra $20 for 2 more GB and a 256K color display. It's well worth it over a 6GB monochrome MP3 player.

[Zen Micro] New Firmware 1.10.02 - standby adjustme

Just downloaded this firmware but have not installed it:
Creative Zen Micro Firmware .0.02
"This web release enables you to upgrade the firmware for your , 4, 5 or 6GB Creative Zen Micro player.
You can upgrade from Creative Zen Micro firmware .02.05 or earlier, or Zen Micro PlaysForSure? firmware 2.00.2 or later. After upgrading, you cannot go back to a previous Creative Zen Micro firmware version."
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I do not want to install this to my Micro if I cannot go back to a firmware that I know works (.02.05), but it is (I think) the latest ... There is however, nothing in the description that says this is the firmware that will allow for a shorter standby time.
Any brave souls want to give this a try and report on it ...
I'm too chicken when it comes to 'no rollback firmware'.
jake

belay that and sorry for posting this without thoroughly searching through the forum ...
From a post on nomadness.net:
All,
.0.02 is the PDE firmware that enables the 4hr. standby timer. There will be an MTP version that does this also, however the PDE firmware was ready first so we released it ASAP.
Jeremy
Forum Moderator
Creative Labs
Still get REAL nervous upgrading firmware that has no way of going back.

PETITION: Mini games in a future Zen Micro firmware upgr

I think it would be an excellent idea for Creative to involve some kind of mini game(s) in a future firmware upgrade for the Zen Micro. My reasons are as follows:
iPods and even iPod Minis both have simple mini games, this could be a good selling point.</LI>
A simple Pong- like game would be perfect to play while listening to music, when waiting in a movie theatre, etc. (I mentioned Pong because the Micro's set up is perfect for it).</LI>
This could be a potential make-or-break selling point for the Micro, as one of the only things that I see better with the iPod over the Micro is it's few games.</LI>
The games don't need to be anything big, but like I said, something simple like Pong to do while waiting. Thank you for reading my petition and it would be great if you signed.
Message Edited by nickermell on 06-24-2005 07:8 PM

There's already a petition for this here.
If you look in the FAQ Part 2, I've listed all the major petitions and wishlists.

Petition for Zen Micro to have double-click capabil

I would like to submit a petition to have the Zen Micro have double-click capability. We all experience the annoyance of the sensitivity of the touch pad. It seems to response to any single click we do. Now, instead of having a single click, let?s have a double-click. Except for the volume control, let?s have every function, or most functions response with a double click. If we want to play, double click. If we want to go to the menu, double click. If we want to select an option, double click. If we want to select a window in the menu, double click.

What do people think? Any other suggestion regarding this? I hope people sign. I would love this option. I think it would allow me to select tracks, and control volume (among many other things) while the Micro still being in my pocket.

Also, is there a place I should send this to to have Creative read the petition?

Thanks.

It's not so much as making things idiotproof. That's why people put up petitions. It's to make things more convenient that makes the usage easier. It also adds options. People don't have to use it if they don't like. Personally, I like it because you wouldn't hit any button by accident, especially if it's in your pocket.

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