Phase One Plus Backs

I had no problems working with my Phase One P30 loaner back. All files woulkd open in Camera RAW 4.1 (Windows XP). I just rec'd my Plus back this afternoon and find that it is not yet supported. Any idea of when the Plus backs will be supported?
Thanks in advance
Don

Once you have used Phase One's RAW processor you won;t go back to photo shop... For $79 to $450 depending upon which version you need you can solve the problem.
The expensive one is only fully utilized with a mac wired up to the camera back during capture... the LE does most of the necessary things for $79 to $99... you need version 3.7 to be up to date. 4 is coming soon.

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Has anyone any idea how does Aperture handle the RAW data in the near future who was shot with the professional Digitalback from PhaseOne?

Phase One backs are the most used high end digital back for professional photographers who need the format and quality that they produce and blow away any file that is produced by a Canon 1DS MK11.... i have both and use both extensively.... each for different types of job.
But Phase One makes you use Capture One software (which they also sell for use with Canon cameras etc) They probably won't let Apple into their closed file system...... keep revenue for them to sell the software upgrades etc. The latest Capture One version 5 is a dog's dinner and Aperture 2 blew it away as an editing and organisational tool.... Ap 3 takes this even further......

Phase one P30+ back not working in LR 1.3

Shooting to a CF card and importing it into LR doesn't give me FULL SIZE previews anymore. Please fix this bug. The back has the latest firmware. Card was formatted in the camera. It seemed to work in the previous version. I can't Develop it into a Tiff file or a high res file. If I shoot tethered into Capture One and then import those raw files these seem to work in LR. This was the same previous bug for + backs, like the previous P30+ back.
Looking at another forum I got some help. If I take the CF card and copy the card to the desktop first into a folder and then import it into LR from the desktop it works, fully. 1:1 previews and tiffs. If I import from the CF card it wont work. I would love to just import it from the CF card (and back up to another disk at one time.)
Thanks,
Ken

would you send the trace of error/exceptions for the case in 10.1.3?

Phase One backs

When is Aperture going to support Phase One digital backs?

Phase One backs are the most used high end digital back for professional photographers who need the format and quality that they produce and blow away any file that is produced by a Canon 1DS MK11.... i have both and use both extensively.... each for different types of job.
But Phase One makes you use Capture One software (which they also sell for use with Canon cameras etc) They probably won't let Apple into their closed file system...... keep revenue for them to sell the software upgrades etc. The latest Capture One version 5 is a dog's dinner and Aperture 2 blew it away as an editing and organisational tool.... Ap 3 takes this even further......

Phase One .IIQ/.TIF

HI everyone,
I'm having a problem with Phase One .IIQ and .TIF raws from a H20 back importing into LIghtroom 2.6. When I import using the .IIQ suffix the import stops with an error and no images are imported. When I switched the suffix to .TIF, images import but only as thumbnails.
The H20 is a supported camera according to ACR documentation.
I am able to import .IIQ files from a Phase One P25+ back just fine.
I would be grateful for any help.
Best regards
G.A.

Which specific back are you using?
Given that you have a ColorChecker chart, have you considered building a custom profile using the DNG Profile Editor?

Imacon, Phase One MF digital backs

I love Aperture, but, if Apple labels it like the tool for _Professional Photographers_ I think it must have an ability to understand raws from digital backs. Moreover, it says it supports DNG (Adobe), but DNG from Leica only draws a small preview inside Aperture, no full image file. And it must have tethered shooting support instead of automatic import via scripting! Otherwise it's just a wonderful rating utility with nice controls and (I believe in it blindly) cool raw conversion.

Phase One backs are the most used high end digital back for professional photographers who need the format and quality that they produce and blow away any file that is produced by a Canon 1DS MK11.... i have both and use both extensively.... each for different types of job.
But Phase One makes you use Capture One software (which they also sell for use with Canon cameras etc) They probably won't let Apple into their closed file system...... keep revenue for them to sell the software upgrades etc. The latest Capture One version 5 is a dog's dinner and Aperture 2 blew it away as an editing and organisational tool.... Ap 3 takes this even further......

Phase One P45 pixel count mess with ACR 4.3

I shoot with P45 plus and I'm trying to get exactly the same pixel size when processing
with P45 as with Capture .
The problem is that there is some pixels difference, so proper alignment is not possible .
Looks like pixel proportions in ACR are wrong ( after all it is a Phase digital back )
( It could be that ACR sees some " hidden " pixels or similar " feature" )
I want to process some files both in ACR ( for color ) and in Phase One
( for moire reduction )
Any suggestions / workarounds ?

The Phase One P45+ creates an image of 7248x5441 pixels. Strange, for the CFA is 2x2, so I would expect the dimensions to be even numbers, but that's how they do it.
The active image size is 7216x5412, according to the specs at Phase One. However, the DNG converter creates a file stating, that the active area is 7248x5441, and the default crop size is 7240x5433. I guess this latter is the size, which will be generated by ACR - is that so, Jann?
It is noteworthy, that the Phase One specification is incorrect (or they have a different understanding of "active pixels"); *all* pixels of the 7248x5441 image are active, i.e. carrying image data. However, their specification is somewhat logical: at least 7216 is a multiple of 8, and the proportion is 4:3.
So, the DNG converter (and then ACR as well) is correct about the active size, but the crop size is a mess. The 4:3 proportion should be kept, and the best would be to do it as Phase One specifies, namely 7216x5412.

Phase One Raw File have lines in them (Lightroom 2.1 ACR 5.1)

when importing Phase One P25 raw files, Lightroom is displaying tin lines across the image. those lines are not appearing in any of the Capture one Software 3.7 4.1 or 4.5 I guess ACR is not reading the Digital Back Calibration Data. I am managing thousands of Images in Lightroom and I don't want to move back to Capture one as it is very limited in terms of its meta data management and no spot removal yet.
if I convert the Raw file (IIQ Small or Large) to DNG using Capture one then Lightroom reading the DNG file without the Lines but the file size is 44MB instead of 15MB of the IIQ Small (Phase One Raw Format). obviously duplicating all my images to DNG Quadrupling disk space is not something I want to add to my workflow.
Adobe, can you improve the way you read the Phase One Raw Files?
I use Phase One P25 Digital Back with the latest firmware 3.6 , Windows XP 32 and 64bit and Lightroom 2.1 (this problem appears on all Lightroom Versions including 1.4,2.0,2.1)
I can send to adobe some Raw File Example or assist in any way I can to find a solution.
Please Help!

Following does not alleviate the problem, but it may shed some light on the underlying reason.
Phase One are fooling their customers with the promise of 16bit depth. However, in fact that is only 14 useful bits; the two low order bits *must not* be used, for they represent mainly the pecularities of the hardware.
The following capture is from a P25+ raw image (converted in DNG by the Adobe DNG converter), but only the two low order bits are processed. These should be random on their own, as theoretically they would represent the finest transitions. The two thin vertical lines show the seams between the chips; their location depends on the particular camera copy (I have seen one or two seams, i.e. the sensor is made out of two or three chips, but perhaps there can be more).
The horizontal stripes cause posterization if an extremely underexposed image's brightness gets adjusted; the seams can become visible as thin lines.
The image is in the "native" (landscape) orientation. The orangy rectangle is not part of the image.
http://www.panopeeper.com/Demo/PhaseOne_P25Plus_SensorSeams.GIF

Difficultly creating Phase One lens profiles

Has anyone successfully created lens profiles with Phase One backs, specifically the P65+? I'm having two major issues:
1. file format. I tried converting to DNG via Capture One 6 and Lightroom 3.3--both generated files that LPC could not read. I see the image previews at the bottom center of LPC, but the higher res version in the center of the application doesn't display. When I click "Generate Profiles" it says "Detect corners failed because file reading errors occurred" My current workaround is to convert to TIF instead, which works fine but takes a lot more time & disk space.
2. memory. When I use TIFs, I get the error "Detect corners failed because out of memory..." It suggests using fewer photos, so I've whittled it down to 3, which I believe is the minimum, but I still get the error almost immediately--it appears to be failing on just one photo. I'm running Win 7 x64 and I have 6GB of physical RAM, 154GB free on my OS disk and 92GB free on the disk that contains the imagery.
Any ideas? Thanks!

In further testing, I've found that the file format issue is momentarily solved by closing and restarting the application. It tends to come back as soon as I perform a couple other operations, though.
I also found that the memory limitation affects P45+ images as well--it says out of memory even if I only select 3 images--but using the P65+ in Sensor+ mode (switching from 60MP to 15MP) does result in DNGs that lens profile creator can handle (and then I can select a whole lot of them without a memory issue).

Phase One P25

I am completely confused. LR has claimed that they support Phase One P25 with the release of v1.1, however after recently purchasing a P25 non-plus series, I am unable to import the RAW files. Typically the files come across as a small Tiff image even when the come off the card directly. I have been using LR since its been in beta and the idea of using Capture One makes me cringe especially fine tuning my work flow within LR and loving it to say the least! Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated.
Moving forward, Phase One believes they have such a superior product with Capture One they will not address any problems with LR, per a regional manager. Must be nice to be that good...NOT!

I did thanks however I'm still feel my question is has been unanswered. It doesn't appear that there is a solution for the problem either.

RawShooter lovers check out Phase One's CaptureOne beta 4

I'm not sure whether Adobe is secure enough to let this message appear. Pixmantec let us compare RawShooter with other programs on their forum site.
If this message does survive, I'd suggest that RawShooter lovers check out the new Phase One CaptureOne 4 beta. The GUI and the workflow resemble what many of us cherished in RS. While I own C1 version 3.x, the new beta is very different.
Vaughn

Luminous Landscapes wrote recently about Capture One 4 Beta "too late too little." Far from being Lightroom's Best Friend, I tend to agree. Lightroom provides a set of well chosen functions in its developer module, foremost the speckles removal, lens correction, so why someone would be paying so much more for a tool not providing these at all?
I think and aside of owners of MF digital backs and commercial photographers, who would be profiting from camera color profiles for uncompromising color fidelity, Capture One V4 will not find any wider user base... Not anymore.
With every new release Lightroom resolves another portion of its infancy issues. Numerous books and web zines teach how to use it, its open plugin and preset interface will provide over time wide assortment of 3rd party add'ons. Regardless the start issues, every other raw converter will have now difficult time to challenge Lightroom.

DNG and Phase One

Hi,
Does dng provide lossless convertion from Phase One to dng file format?
Can you also convert it back from Dng to Phase One format without any loss of quality?

I would be interested as well in the answer, whether the conversion between PhaseOne TIF and DNG is truly lossless or not. I don't know the answer to this, and haven't researched it.
For my money Capture One, is better for pure processing than Camera RAW, still after all these revisions. Somehow the Capture One processing is more 'film like'. It takes a lot of work in Camera RAW to get a processed file to simulate what you can produce with Capture One. And even then there's some definition, some factor X missing. Tones and colors are slighty flatter, less naturalistic, sharpening more fake - using Camera RAW. 'Clarity' is particularly dangerous, artificially filtered looking, and likely to be abused Just my opintion.
So my personal answer is, depending on the answer we get above - if you can avoid using DNG - do.

Exporting Phase One Camera Files

I'm confused...
It showed in the Richard Burbridge using a Phase One back in the demo.
I can't get any of our Phase One raw files to export larger than the 72ppi. I'm I doing something wrong?
Hollis

Hi Hollis, welcome to the forum.
Aperture doesn't support RAW files from any MF back (yet?) - what you are getting is based on an embedded thumbnail.
I guess that the video cheated somewhat by having Capture One doing the converting and dropping the results into a hot folder to import that into Aperture.
Ian

One plus one - would you recommend

Great reputation and a lot of phone for the money, but good luck getting one :)

hi all,
what do you think of the one plus one, for the money i think there very very good as the spec of them are like high end smartphones-
https://oneplus.net/uk
im not too keen on chinese manufacturers as i have heard some chinese manufacturers send back data to spy on you, just want to know your thoughts
many thanks
rob
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Lightroom with Phase One files?

I was wondering if anyone is using LR with Phase One files?
I use a P45 Phase One back and really would prefer to use Lightroom (over Capture One), but I also need to use the lens correction files for the way I shoot (wide angle lenses / technical cameras etc.)..... I know LR can now do this, but it only works with dng files; everything I've read tells me that the C1 conversion to dng is not a good conversion.
Does anyone have a good workflow for this? I suppose I could always just make a few basic corrections in C1 and then export a 16 bit Tiff to worrk on in LR, but I'd rather work with raw files as much as possible?
Thanks for any suggestions,
Alan.

Yes, I agree, it is fairly simple (now that I've investigated further).
LR does a very neat job of this...... you can export the Capture One file (TIF) as a dng and set LR to automaticaly add the new dng to the same folder (and have it stacked), then you can add the flat field correction and that comes in stacked also, so now all three files are together.
One thing that seems a bit odd is that the Capture One TIF file (IIQL) is 55.9 Mb from my P45, but the Lightroom dng is 64.9Mb? Why is the dng larger?
Thanks,
Alan.

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