Phone line dead, over 2 week wait for possible rep...

Hi there
I'm posting on behalf of my Mum who cannot post in the forum as her phone line/broadband are currently down.
On Friday 4th January 2013 she noticed the phone was dead, and also that the Internet had stopped working. She rang the usual number BT provides and was told by an Indian chap that there is a fault but there won't be anybody available to look at it until 21st January 2013! She was not provided with any reference numbers to track the case or anything which didn't help.
Bear in mind my Mum is in her late 60's and relies on the phone to keep in contact with relatives, and this is especially important since my Dad died.
I am aware that Openreach are busy yadda yadda, but it is simply not acceptable for her to wait over 2 weeks for someone to at least have a look at it! She has spoken to her neighbours and they were having problems originally which now appear to have been sorted.
I am worried that not only will she have to wait but that she will charged a ridiculous fee for any repairs, even though the fault is not anything that she has caused. Also I am not happy that BT are going to charge for zero service for a two week period, surely this is essentially robbery?
Is there anyway I can get this escalated, and is there anyway I can get the charges she will receive refunded?
I have already contacted someone in the forum via e-mail but I don't think it worked as I was using my brother's mobile at the time.
Thanks in advance
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Tootsie wrote:
You're welcome. Also, I understand that your mum can have al her calls diverted to an alternative number and there is some form of compensation available for loss of service....I'll see if I can find the details.....I've seen them somewhere
BT will not pay you compensation they will only refund your line and BB rental if your phone has not been repaired after the end of the 3rd working day also if you have your line diverted you are not entitled to this refund.
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Text message from BT saying they are having "systems issues trying to correct and update data in the background, and exchange problems".
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I ask him to CC in the CEO of BT to the email he is going to send to Kelly W<removed for forum post>. He thinks I am joking….
It is Wednesday night of the 04th of September 2012
Still no call back from Kelly or anybody from the Help care team. This is the 4th time I’ve requested a call back.
And now my PIN numbers for the priority call number have been disabled so I can’t call them.
Of course; why would you expect anything less?
LETTERS OF LATE PAYMENT:
In the last 6 months I’ve got multiple letters from BT telling me I am late in paying for my line service. I get ‘account overdue’ letters even though I prepaid the 12 months line service in advance for a line that has never worked.
SADLY:
There are phone lines in the flats below me, either side of me, and all down this entire street.
There are phone lines all over London. There are phone lines all over the UK.
But sadly not one that works in my flat. I’ve been without a phone or an internet connection since I moved in. 9 months ago.
MARS:
The Americans have flown a Mars Rover, which weighs a ton, from the Earth to Mars, landed it, and driven it around a bit – all on another planet - in the same time BT has failed to install a working phone line into a flat in central London? I wish it was this funny..
GIVEN UP:
So now I give up. My endless frustration at BT’s total lack of anything even close to coordinated fault tracking or anything like co-ordinated customer care service isn’t worth the time or stress any longer. 9 months of stress, lost wages while I’ve waited at home for engineers, and countless hours and hours of my time wasted on hold or speaking to people that can’t help.
YOU SUCK:
BT you are the total pits.
I don’t think you could suck more.
Some of my account numbers have been GB 1084 <removed for forum post>, GB 1099 <removed for forum post>, GB 1038 <removed for forum post>, GB 1105 <removed for forum post>
Dozens of other reference numbers: <removed for forum post>

Further onwards (actually downwards or backwards):
I did respond (last week) to the request to contact the forum moderators directly and was told that that they could not help because this is now being referred to Ombudsman.
Thanks for the offer of help anyway.
Two days ago I did receive another letter from BT. Dated after I was told that I would never get another letter from BT asking for payment for something that was never done. "You will never get another bill". I get another bill.
So more, painful, calls to BT in India. Have to explain the entire 9 month situation again. More wasted timed.
Asked to wait while supervisor is contacted.
Told she can't help but I should call this number: 0800 169 4109.
Which I did. But of course that number requires a number and a pin. And they don't give you a pin number. So they have effectively just cut me off.
So I have to start the entire 'call for help about this bill' processes again.
(Don't forget I've been talking to BT now since January 2012. 9 months, coming up to 10 months and I still can't get a working phone line and I still can't stop getting bills for something that has never worked).
Additioanlly on top of getting sent another late payment letter I’ve see no letter regarding the ‘Deadlock’ process between BT and I – as ‘promised’ by BT. I was told, verbally, the letter would go out last Monday. It is still not here. I want to know if the process has began. So I try to get help with that on BT Help Chat.
My goal in the chat below was to:
1. Get help with the Ombudsman process. I wanted to know why I had not received a letter from BT as I was told I was going to on the date I was expecting.
2. Get a phone number to speak to somebody about the Ombudsman process that BT had started.
3. Find out why I am still getting late payment changes for a line that has never worked - in the 9 months since the initial line order was created.
I was not given a number to call for help. Claire, the Help Chat lady, would not give me the number.
I was told I was going to be 'called back,' which I was not happy with as I know from 9 months of past experiences with BT that I will not be called back.
Sadly I was getting very frustrated by the end of the ‘Help Chat’. 9.5 months of tryign to get a phone line working in Central London has left me a little stressed...
Please note that today is the day after the chat transcript below. While Claire was trying to be helpful:
I was not called back. I received no help regarding getting details on what stage the Ombudsman process is at and what I have to do next.
9.5 months now. No phone line. No solution. Lots and lost of endless frustration.
Days and days and days of stress and my own time and hence money wasted.

Phone line dead, over 2 week wait for possible rep...

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