Photo copies: camera roll and my photostream

My iPhone 5S 16GB iOS7.1 (and probably my iPad Air too) saves two copies of a photo whenever I take a picture/screenshot, one in Camera Roll, and another in My Photostream, and if it is a panorama shot it saves in Camera Roll and Panorama. Because of this, it is using twice the necessary storage just for photos. How do I prevent this from happening?

Turn off Photo Stream with your iCloud account settings on the device.
Panorama photos available in the Panorama album are not duplicated as in taking double the storage space. The photos in the Panorama album includes a pointer only to the original photo stored in the Camera Roll. This way you can quickly view all panorama photos without having to search for it among all other photos in the Camera Roll.

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You can't. It doesn't work that way.
the new album that you created doesn't contain a copy of the actual photo. It contains a pointer to that photo. If you delete it from the camera roll, you will delete it from the album that you created as well. Albums that you create on the iPad in the Photos app are for local organization only and cannot be transfer or imported to your computer, because there really are no photos in those albums

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I can't download the new update because I don't have enough storage. I bought more storage but my camera roll is 6.2 GB. Photo stream is 323 MB. Can someone please explain the difference between photo stream, camera roll, and photos. Thanks.

Photo Stream is a feature of iCloud;
http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/photo-stream.html
The Camera Roll is an album on the iPad with any photos that you transfer from a camera or memory card using the Camera Connection Kit to the iPad or any screen shots that you take with the iPad or any photos that you take with the cameras on an iPad 2, as opposed to any albums that you have synced to the iPad from your computer using the iTunes app. The Camera Roll comes and goes as needed. If you have no photos that would go into the Camera Rol, it disappears, and returns when it is needed.
iPhoto is an Apple photo app for the Mac computer. It is part of the iLife suite of Mac apps;
http://www.apple.com/ilife/iphoto/

HT204022 When a photo that is included in photo stream is deleted from cameraroll it should ask whether we want to delete it from photostream too, shouldn't it? How do I delete a bad photo from camera roll and photo stream? I have to delete it twice???

80% percent of photos we take are bad photos, we delete them later when reviewing them. Now the photos are in both camerroll and photostrean. When we delete them from the camera roll they do not get deleted from photo stream, when I delete them from photo stream they do not get deleted from camera roll.
I want to keep good photos only in both photo stream and camera roll. How do I do it? Delete them twice?? What a waste of time.
When a photo is deleted from camera roll it should ask whether we want to delete it from photo stream too. Otherwise photo stream is useless.I remove bad photos from camera roll but they all stay in the photo stream ...

Hi JM,
Even 20 days later, the answer is the same.....you have to delete photos from them individually - they are kept in separate places, so you have to delete them from both if you don't want them. However, photostream will, eventually, "delete" the bad photos, since it only keeps up to 1000, and then starts overlaying the oldest ones....
Sorry....
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If I have photo stream on, can I delete my photos on camera roll and still have the photos?

I Need more room on my phone. I have a lot of photos and I have photo stream on. if I delete all my photos in camera roll, will I still be able to keep the photos in photo stream? My phone is not backed up to a computer, and I don't want to risk losing the photos.

Check out this discussion > If i delete pictures from my camera roll on my iPhone will they be deleted from my iCloud also?

IOS devices don't put shared photos from Camera Roll onto My Photostream

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This is really frustrating because I want to easily have other people's photos that I want in my personal colleciton included in the backup on the mac mini. It's particularly nice how all my photos appear grouped by month in Events in iPhoto.
Is anyone else having this problem? Any advice on how to fix it? It's occuring with all my iOS devices so it looks like it might be a bug.

I'd rather not. Besides the hassle of the extra synch process, they'll come in as separate import events mixed in wih all my other photos and not be in the month by month photostream archive I mentioned.

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Also, I did a backup on iTunes before the upgrade but after the upgrade completed, it performed a backup that overwrote the last one I did. At least I think it did, there is only one backup showing up in the MobileSync-Backup folder on my computer. Also, in iTunes on the bottom of the screen, the bar that shows how much storage space is being used by what, its number of pics is several hundred more than the number of pics on my phone. The ones it didn't erase were in a different album that I had uploaded from my computer (ironic that the pics that I didn't lose in the upgrade, I already have copies of on my computer). Anyhow, I used a trial version of recovery program called Wondershare Dr.Fone for ios, and while I'm definately not here to promote them, after it did the scan on my iphone, it showed thumbnails of all the missing photos, along with everything else I'd ever done on my phone lol. So I do know they are in there, I just can't afford to pay $70 to retrieve them, nor do I think I should have to as the upgrade caused them to be missing! Does anyone know of a free recovery tool? I never used iCloud, so that is not an option either.

I have updated my iPhone4 to ios5. tried using the photo lib, camera roll and creating new albums. I have also transferred photos to the new album and it great.Is there a way to delete a photo in a single album and not everywhere?

Hoping to get an answer

You can sync photos from your computer via iTunes, and each folder that you sync will get its own album : syncing photos. You will need to sync all the photos that you want on the iPad together in one go - synced photos can't be deleted directly on the iPad, instead they are deleted by not including them in the next sync.
In terms of albums that you create directly on the iPad no, effectively you are just creating pointers to the photos in those new albums, so if you delete the original photo you will therefore also be deleting all pointers to it.
You could consider a third-party photo management app instead e.g. Photo Manager Pro

Camera Roll and iPhone Photo Count.

Hello all!
I have noticed the number of photos in my camera roll, doesn't match the number shown in the 'about' section of the phone.
Whilst on my photos deleted some i didn't need from both camera roll and my photo stream, the amount i deleted then shown on my about section and it had dropped the same amount which is normal.
But i don't know why it's so high still, i have 77 photos in camera roll and my phone says i have 125!
anyone else had this problem? thank you

At this point I'd suggest you restore your phone (see http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1414). Try first by restoring to your backup at the end of the process. If you want things to go faster, backup your phone to iTunes (rather than iCloud, which takes much longer to restore from). You can perform a manual backup in iTunes even if you are backing up to iCloud by connecting your phone to your computer and right-clicking on the name of your phone on the left sidebar of iTunes and choosing Backup. Also, prior to restoring be sure to back up your contacts (such as by syncing them to iCloud in Settings>iCloud>Contacts>On, Outlook or another cloud service). Don't rely solely on your iPhone backup to restore your contacts.
If restoring using your backup does not resolve things, you'll have to save as much of your data as possible and restore your phone as new (without your backup).

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Create an album for your old photos. Connect your phone to iTunes on your computer. On the phone's summary page tap the Photos tab. Check the Sync photos from checkbox. Click the button next to the checkbox. Navigate to the folder on your computer where the pictures are located. Add them to your album.
Doing this in reverse is the only way to get these pictures back off your phone.
I agree iCloud / Photostream for photos is way to complicated and useless, but it is locked down to keep people from trying to use it to share commercial videos and music via the shared photostream. At least that is my guess.

Photostream adding photos to camera roll...

I have a single photostream (one iCloud account) set up on 4 devices - iMac (running Aperture 3.3), two iPhone 4S's, and an iPad 2. In order to share photos over all devices, I used my wife's iCloud account to connect all the devices to one Photostream. It is working perfectly...except...
When a new photo is added to any device and the Photostream folders in Aperture on my iMac, it shows up in the Photostream album all the devices just as intended...except for my wife's iPhone, where they show up in the "camera roll" album, her Photostream folder is empty (always). If my wife takes a photo, it shows up in her camera roll, makes it to all the other devices via photostream, but never makes it to the photostream on her phone...it's as if the camera roll photo album is a surrogate for the photostream album on her phone.
The obvious issue is that the photos that are loading up in her "camera roll" are then backed up via the iCloud in lieu of the Photostream (which doesn't count against your total iCloud memory if I understand it correctly) and is using up our iCloud memory extremely fast - previoulsy we never used more than 6-7GB...now, since setting up photostream, we are at 24.5GB on a 25GB account and getting space warnings.
As a result, we've had to turn off photostream for the time being, or, i suppose we could buy ungodly amounts of iCloud memory to compensate for this (we are the proud parents of a photogenic toddler - arent they all?? - and take a lot of photos), I can't help but feel this should be working better...any thoughts of what might be happening? I'm sure I am missing something simple...but what is it?
FYI - I have restored her iPhone, reset the photostream, deleted the photos in her camera roll...all to no avail...As I noted, all the other devices seem to be behaving as expected.

From this article:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4486
iOS devices: New photos you take are automatically uploaded to your photo stream when you leave the Camera app and are connected to Wi-Fi. My Photo Stream does not push photos over cellular connections.

How do I move photos from my camera roll to my photostream on the iPod Touch

I turned off the photostream because I didn't like that when I would delete a photo I'd have to delete it from two seprate places. But now syncing my photos to my computer is a huge pain since I don't use a Mac. So I figured photostream was my best bet since it syncs into a nice folder automatically on my computer.
When I turned photostream back on it didn't include any pictures from my camera roll that I took after I had initially turned photostream off.
It doesn't give me the option to select them from my camera roll and copy them to the photostream. Please tell me there's a way to do this?

See:
iCloud: Photo Stream FAQ
Also, this
Re: photos from my camera roll do not show up in photostream
included:
Note: disabling photostream and re-enabling it will result in any photos that are currently in the photostream album on your device, that are older than 30 days old, not being added back.

IOS 8 - Disentangling Camera Roll and Photostream - help!

In iOS 8, Apple removed the “Camera Roll” and “Photostream” albums and collapsed them into a single stream of photos on the camera that can be accessed under “Collections”. “Collections” also includes all other photos otherwise loaded onto the phone, e.g., via iPhoto. This new arrangement upsets several familiar ways in which I’ve been using my iPhone and its camera, and I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for how to recapture a few simple functions. (I have submitted Feedback on the elimination of the Camera Roll, and with this post I am looking for practical solutions to a series of new problems.)
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Question #3. I have a few old iOS devices that I let my kids use. They like to take photos and screenshots. Most of them are pretty stupid but once in a while they do something great. I’ve left Photostream on on those devices to see what they’re up to, and to capture the occasional gem. This was fine, when “Photostream” was a separate Album that I could look at, or not, as I chose. In iOS 8 however, all of their junk photos appear in “Collections” and are as much a part of my phone’s photo repository as the carefully-curated Camera Roll photos used to be. Is there a way to keep Photostream photos out of my “Collection”?
Question #4. I suppose someone could write an app that does nothing but display photos that were captured by, and reside physically, on the device. Perhaps someone already has, if anyone knows. Of course I’d prefer to use the native app for this function, but I’d take the function over nativity if I had to choose.
Question #5. Does anyone know (“know” – please no speculation, and nothing that an NDA forbids) how the iCloud Photo Library, which dropped back to beta in the final release of iOS 8, works? Does it provide the backup and safekeeping function of Photostream, along with the ability to view that set of photos separately? If so then I could turn off Photostream and at least get rid of that clutter.
Thanks for any and all help. And by way of reminder - https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html .

Here's one, eh, kludgy fix for Question #1. I don't exactly recommend it - it can be pretty laborious - but in the end it seems to get me back to about where I started with my Camera Roll.
Go into "Collections" and scroll back to about the date at which you expect to find your first native iPhone photo. (I have many imported photos that predate iPhone, so I can't just look at the first ones.) Tap through until you are looking at a single photo. Look at the bottom. If it displays a "Favorites" heart, it's physically on your iPhone (and as best I can tell, was taken by the device). Tag it as a favorite. Swipe to the next photo. Skip if it shows no Favorites heart - that means it's not on your phone - and tag it if it does.
At the end of this process (did I mention it's laborious?), you should have a Favorites album that matches the photos that were on your Camera Roll when you upgraded to iOS 8.

I change my apple ID and password like a week now and after changing all my information and MY apple ID, i noticed that i lost all my picture in my camer roll and my photo stream too ;(.. Can anyone please help me how to bring it back all my photos?

I change my apple ID and password like a week now and after changing all my information and MY apple ID, i noticed that i lost all my picture in my camer roll and my photo stream too ;(.. Can anyone please help me how to bring it back all my photos?

I don't know about your camera roll, but for photostream just do this:
Go into Settings > iCloud > Delete Account and then sign back in using your Apple ID information.
Make sure to do the same thing with your iTunes and App Store options.
Settings > iTunes and App Store > Click Email and sign out, then sign back in.

Photo copies: camera roll and my photostream

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