Photo management

Hi my name is Jeremy and I am a switcher.
First of all thank you to all who take the time to post and provide feedback. This fourm has a wealth of information.
When I got my MBP I just dove into importing my images into iphoto and was loving it. Then when Aperture came out I was even more impressed and was importing my images from iphoto and creating projects left and right. Good times.
Now that I am taking the time to learn more I see that I did not always import my files the right way. Is there a way to "re-do" my library the right way?
What really started me down this road is that currently all my photos are on my MBP and I need to archive them. It seems as though I have some photos in my Pictures folder, some in Aperture's database, and whatever I did when I imported my picture from iphoto.
Basically I feel like my pictures are all messed up. What is the best way to organize them? Thank you.

Unfortunately Aperture is an app that is generally too complex too allow folks to just dive into without missing esential workflow concepts. And your question is IMO way too broad for someone here to just say "do this and all will be right with the world."
IMO working the tutorial Apple Pro Training Series: Aperture 1.5 (Apple Pro Training) by Orlando Luna and Ben Long (Paperback - Oct 18, 2006) is the way to learn how to build an Aperture workflow. Not using it as a manual, but working the tutorial.
-Allen Wicks

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