Photo Order/Sorting

I have a pretty big problem.
I have spent countless hours in iphoto organizing all my pictures into the order I want. After updating to iPhoto 11 all my photos were shuffled into what looks like date & time. On top of that it doesn't seem to let me manually arrange photos either.
Has anyone else had this problem. I want my photos back in the order I put them in, is there a setting or anything else that I'm missing to do this?

In what mode are you referring to? Events, Photos, ? Photos in the Events and the Photos mode photos can not be sorted manually. That will have to be done in Albums.
As a tip once you get your photos in the order you want them you can change their title with the Photos ➙ Batch Change ➙ Title to Text with an sequential number appended to each. Like Page-01, Page-02, etc. That way no matter what happens you can regain the order by sorting by title.
You can alway revert to the original title or file name with the same Batch Change.
In iPhoto 09 you could sort photos manually in the Photos mode but that affected the entire library. It would remove the event titles from that mode if you had it set. The Event mode was the same as it is with iPhoto 11 - no manual sorting.
Send a feature request to Apple via http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html.
OT

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Larry
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