Photoshop and Metadata handling.

We have two related issues we're trying to solution.
(1) If we create a blank Photoshop file ("template") that is merely a size, resolution and color profile, when we add an image (that does contain metadata), the image's metadata is not retained in the template metadata. We need to be able to transfer that image's metadata, automatically, to the template. (We do not want to have to copy/paste.)
(2) Let's say we now have a template with 1 image and associated metadata. We now need to add another image(s) to this template and have the second image's metadata also transfer automatically. (This auto-transfer of metadata would occur for any subsequent image added.)
We are using CS4 v11.0.2.

You may want to also ask over at
http://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop/photoshop_scripting
as I suspect achieving this in Photoshop may require Scripting.

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Roundtripping to Photoshop and metadata

I'm surprised I never noticed this before, but it looks like if you haven't saved your metadata before editing a copy in Photoshop, any metadata that has not been saved is not in the copy. Is this the way it should be for any reason? You do not have to have saved metadata when you export (well, am I sure about that?).

>I've found I get the develop adjustments from lightroom without editing with lightroom adjustments. All I have to do is enter develop, click on edit in external application i history, and they are there............... I have to do a reset. I commented on this some time ago and nobody answered. So now I'm using this to my advantage.
Yes, and it confused me as much then as now. The only thing I can think of is that you have auto adjustments switched on at import. When a non raw file is imported there should be no develop adjustments of any kind applied to the file (see attached screenshot).
>Ian, your explanation that it's a feature doesn't explain why if we save the metadata then it does get applied to the edited copy (except ratings).
When you "save" the metadata, etc you have written in back into the
original file outside of Lr (inclusive of ratings, keywords and labels). Until such times as you use "save" the metadata, etc are unique to the Lr catalog and internal previews (think of them as virtual metadata and/or adjustments, they live in the catalog, not the actual file). In the case of PSD, TIFF and JPEG the adjustments will not even be applied to the file until you export it, thus creating a copy or overwriting the original. In other words, "saving adjustments" to a PSD, TIFF or JPEG does not alter the rendering of the original.

I´m not able to download the mac version of photoshop and lightroom, I always get a download of an .exe file, which I cannot handle.

No mac version?

Hi peter314,
Please download CC desktop app via Free Creative Cloud | Download Adobe Creative Cloud free trial and then start downloading Photoshop and Lightroom.
In case that also comes in .exe then download PS and LR via Adobe CC 2014 Direct Download Links – Creative Cloud 2014 Release | ProDesignTools
PS: Please follow the VERY IMPORTANT INSTRUCTIONS or else the download will not start.
-Ankit

Bridge CS6- Thumbnails gone and metadata too!

Hi everyone.
I am in panic mode.
I am running Bridge CS6 (5.0.2.4) And PS CS6. I recently updated something Can't remember if it was DNG and/or Camera Raw.
My problem started today when i went to view a folder of DNG images in Bridge. Initially the thumbnails of the images showed up, but then one by one, the thumbnails turned into the Adobe DNG icon. This is happening with tiff files too.
I went to Tools>Cache>Purge Cahe for Folder... That did not help. I simply can not re-generate the thumbnails.
I've also noticed that when I click on almost any image, my metadata does not show up in the Meta Data Panel in Bridge.
Another odd thing is all my images are keyworded. I used to be able to click on an image, and see in the Keyword Panel the keywords I chose for that image. That is no longer the case, however when I open that image in Photoshop CS6 and get file info, I see that my keywords and Metadata is there!
And the very last weird thing: If I go to the Bridge menu>Camera raw preferences, nothing happens. I used to be able to set my TIFF and JPEG handling options there.
This happened as I was finishing archiving about 20,000 images so you'll understand that I am a little bit more than upset....
Your help would be most appreciated.
Jonathan

After reading a few things online I decided to try re-installing the DNG/CR Update 8.4.0. That did not help.
I then decided to delete the ACR cache files, the Adobe Bridge 256, 1024, and Full cache folders, since there were tens of thousands of them.
I realize that Bridge might have to rebuild and it would take a while, but was wondering if something got corrupted there.
(I hope this wasn't a mistake).
I relaunched bridge, and as expected, none of my images have thumbnails, but I also see no way to re-generate those!
BTW- All this has happened with my back-up of this archive on a seperate HD.
I am unable to get the CR preference window to show in Bridge but I am able to acces the prefs from within PS CS6!
Going crazy!

Editing in Photoshop changes metadata

I never had a problem with Aperture 2, but since the upgrade to A3, I've noticed that when I edit an image in Photoshop (CS3), the time that it says my image was taken changes by 13 hours. This is particularly annoying since I generally sort my projects by 'date taken', and this moves them all around. Does anyone know what may be causing this?

Hi... actually last night I kinda figured out the bug and i'm not sure if its in Aperture or photoshop but i think its aperture...
I'm still trying to figure it out a little...
So here's my reckoning..!
I have an image that has metadata time 14:51:20 lets say... and its (Dublin IST) when i export the image to photoshop it gets handled a little different ... photoshop file info says GMT+1 (as its summertime now) so when i save the file and send it back to aperture AP3 interperts the data and adds one to the time resulting in the time now being... 15:51:20 and therefore moving it out of sort order... this is something to do with the timezones set in both applications but I can't work out how to edit this in either.. I'm assuming AP3.0 gets its timezone from my mac and perhaps PSCS3 gets it just from the file and treats it in its own way...???!!
Any ideas... looks like a slight bug to me.. but I'm not sure which app is causing the problem...

Improved Metadata Handling?

The 1.1 PDF states:
Improved Metadata Handling
Mac OS X v10.4.6 includes support for EXIF metadata when exporting TIFF files with Aperture. You can view the EXIF information in exported TIFF files using other image editing applications, such as Adobe Photoshop.
OK, when I use Open with External Editor, I see the EXIF data in Photoshop (namely the IPTC) but when I instead use the Export command to a TIFF, no data. Bug?

Like William Lloyd posted earlier, I am not able to replicate this problem, at least on my PowerMac G5. Tried exporting the same image, loaded with IPTC data, in 16-bit and 8-bit TIF and PSD. Got the same results in all exports -- all the IPTC data showed up in Bridge Metadata panel and Photoshop Info window for all four images. Shoot only Canon Raw.
Wonder if there is a source data to output data bug specific to a camera make/model? Perhaps if the posters who are having this problem can state the source image type (camera make/model/file type) we can see if there is a pattern.
Mike
PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0GHz, Radeon X800XT Graphics Card; MacBookPro 2.0Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.6) iMac800 and Powerbook G4 also in household

Different Colors when printing from Photoshop and InDesign CS3

Different Colors when printing from Photoshop and InDesign CS3
I have the following problem:
When printing from Photoshop or InDesign to a PostScript printer, Adobe recommends to let Photoshop handle the colors (I use the German version, so I don't know the exact term used, it changes slightly in all CS3 apps anyway).
The manufacturer however told me to let the PostScript printer handle the colors.
When I chose this option in Ps's print dialog and then choose ISO Coated as the printer pfofile, the results are fine.
But when I place the exact same image in an InDesign file and print from InDesign or export to PDF and print via Acrobat, again using "Printer handles colors", the results are the exact same as if I had used Ps and chosen to let Ps handle the colors (way too saturated and a bit too red).
·Photoshop CS3
·InDesign CS3
·Test image is a TIFF in CMYK Fogra 27 Coated (which is also the working color space in Ps and ID.
·Printer: Xerox Docucolor 3535
·Printer profile: ISO Coated
How can I make sure the printer handles the colors in other CS3 apps than Ps? I tried it with ID's print dialog (translated from the German version: Color Management > Options > Color Handling: PostScript-printer decides colors).
Thanks a lot!

RE: "You don't indicate what Xerox printers you have"
In my first post I named it, is that the information you need?
Docucolor 3535 using Splash 3535
That's interesting, so I have to find a way to turn off the printer's Color Management function? I mailed them, hope they can tell me how to do it easily. They usually just tell me to not use any profiles and so on, but that's the general rule in this area, I'm really tired of hearing it. Everybody seems to think profiles and LAB mode are nuclear science and I should stay away from it.
Anyway, the test image I'm using is a simple photograph (size A3, 300dpi), so no transparencies at all. I'm placing this image into an equally large ID file and print it from ID, then export it to PDF-X/3 and print it from Acrobat. Hope that helps.

Slow to create Organiser Catalog & Thumbnails in Photoshop and Premiere?

This is a newbie question ... I tried to find an answer, however most posts seem to be about specific issues.
Background
I have just upgraded my PC to an intel quad processor (6600), new motherboard, 4gb DDR 800mhz ram, 512mb geforce video card and new 500Gb SATA2 HDD.
I've purchaesd and installed Photoshop Elements 6 and Premiere 4 and am now trying to get all my photos and videos into the organiser.
Issue
I have moved all my photos and videos to a specific folder and have run the Get Photos option in photoshop organiser. It finds something like 11,000 items and loads them up. From this point there are no thumbnails displayed, they are all greyed out and it says "Generating Thumbnails" in the bottom left of the frame. I left this runnning overnight, and in the mornign there are still no thumbnails displayed (slider all the way to left to show max number of thumbs).
What I was hoping to do was to load up all images and videos, then gradually work my way through them assigning ratings and metadata ... seems that it is taking an awefully long time to load ... am I following the wrong approach?
Another related issue is that when I load premiere 4 and select the "Organiser" tab, the system seems to hang for a long time when displaying video's only (about 30Gb of videos) ... if I try to page down on the thumbnails of videos, the system hangs and takes about 5mins to re-fresh the view.
Maybe I'm following the worng approach in trying to organise all images and videos at teh same time ?? ... any ideas on how I can do this more effectively, as at the moment it seems that the organiser in Photoshop and Elements runs extremely slowly.
Cheers

Ben,
I suggest loading all your photos first and getting that straightened out before tackling Premiere. So first, start with a fresh catalog and import just the photos into it.
The PSE 6 Organizer has lots of problems generating thumbnails when you first load a catalog, but most people have been able to work through those problems reasonably quickly.
If you have lots of raw files, you need to follow the recipe in this article:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b53a81
Otherwise, try rebuilding the Organizers thumbnail cache:
1. In Help > System Info, find the folder containing your catalog.
2. Exit PSE.
3. In that folder, delete the file thumb.5.cache.
4. Restart PSE.
5. Edit > Select All.
6. Edit > Update Thumbnail.
This can take a long time, roughly 10,000 JPEGs per hour.

CS 5.5 installation issues for photoshop and indesign

I have recently had my computer rebooted with a new hard drive and windows 7. therefore ive needed to re-install 5.5 creative suite. Warnings and errors have been displayed identifying that photoshop and indeisgn can be installed. i have copied the error codes (below) could anyone help me resolve this?
Exit Code: 6
-------------------------------------- Summary --------------------------------------
- 2 fatal error(s), 22 error(s), 19 warning(s)
----------- Payload: {CFA46C39-C539-4BE9-9364-495003C714AD} Adobe SwitchBoard 2.0 2.0.0.0 -----------
WARNING: DF029: ARKServiceControl::StartService: Service not started/stopped SwitchBoard. Current State: 0 Exit Code: 0 Service Specific Exit Code: 0(Seq 1)
----------- Payload: {DE9919D2-02F6-1016-B9D5-B7E70E2BA75F} Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Application Base Files2 7.5.0.0 -----------
FATAL: DS003: Cannot extract 'E:\Adobe CS5_5\payloads\AdobeInDesign7xAppBase2-mul\Assets1_1.zip' to 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Installers\adobeTemp\{DE9919D2-02F6-1016-B9D5-B7E70E2BA75F}'. Error: Error 21 The device is not ready.
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
----------- Payload: {6C7D437A-D2E9-4FE9-A4D9-A6329860835C} Adobe Linguistics CS5 5.0.0.0 -----------
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
----------- Payload: {CE75F5DB-8CA3-4E84-A30E-AF9160006105} Adobe Player for Embedding x64 3.1 3.101.0.0 -----------
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
----------- Payload: {B55FDCCB-8A45-4943-8D90-585C3490A032} Adobe WinSoft Linguistics Plugin CS5 x64 1.2.0.0 -----------
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
----------- Payload: {9A8B01C5-78D1-465F-B5F6-BD59B7800EC7} AdobeTypeSupport x64 CS5 10.0.0.0 -----------
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
----------- Payload: {0669F23C-1B69-41B4-A3ED-4F54A5986D66} Adobe Linguistics CS5 x64 5.0.0.0 -----------
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
----------- Payload: {50D2A553-2839-469E-B87D-86DC8C104745} Adobe Photoshop CS5.1 International English Language Pack_x64_AdobePhotoshop12-en_GB_x64 12.1.0.0 -----------
FATAL: DS003: Cannot extract 'E:\Adobe CS5_5\payloads\AdobePhotoshop12-en_GB_x64\Assets1_1.zip' to 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Adobe\Installers\adobeTemp\{50D2A553-2839-469E-B87D-86DC8C104745}'. Error: Error 23 Data error (cyclic redundancy check).
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
WARNING: DW036: Payload cannot be installed due to dependent operation failure
ERROR: DW050: The following payload errors were found during install:
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe Buzzword CS5.5: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Digital Publishing: Failed due to Language Pack installation failure
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe Photoshop CS5.1 Core_x64: Failed due to Language Pack installation failure
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe WinSoft Linguistics Plugin CS5.5: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe Hunspell Linguistics Plugin CS5.5: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe Digital Publishing Application Language Files_AdobeDigitalPublishingAppLang-en_GB: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe Linguistics CS5.5: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe SING CS5: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Common Language Files_AdobeInDesign7xCommonLang-en_US: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe Photoshop CS5.1 International English Language Pack_x64_AdobePhotoshop12-en_GB_x64: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Application Feature Set Files: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe Media Encoder CS5.5 X64: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Common Base Files: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Application Base Files: Failed due to Language Pack installation failure
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Icon Handler: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Application Language Files_AdobeInDesign7xAppLang-en_GB: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Icon Handler x64: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe Toolhints CS5.5: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Common Language Files_AdobeInDesign7xCommonLang-en_GB: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe InDesign CS5.5 Application Base Files2: Install failed
ERROR: DW050: - Adobe Content Viewer: Install failed

I would run System Restore to a point before the installation attempt to get rid of any bad registry entries, then run the cleaner tool for good measure: CS Cleaner Tool for installation problems | CCM, CS6, CS5.5, CS5, CS4, CS3
After that I'd try running MSconfig and turn off all non-essential startup programs (especially malware and anti-virus scanners and third-party firewalls) and non-essential services, then re-boot. Ignore the warning about Diagnostic mode and run the Installer again. You can re-run MSconfig after install to restore normal startup.

Color Management Confusion-Photoshop and monitors

Ok, so I am asking this question because I am literally at my wits end with this color management stuff. I have become so confused in the past few days that I can’t even think straight. Anyway, I am hoping you all can help me “understand” how it all work. Let me start with some background information (since I know it will probably be asked)
am a photographer, I utilize Lightroom 4 and CS3 (I know its old but I am planning on getting CS6 soon).
put my pictures on the web that I will assume will be viewed on multiple different browsers.
also will be sending my pictures to print at mpix or whcc. I may decide to print my own but haven’t really made that determination at this point.
have a mac book pro that I work from.
Ok, so I need to get a monitor to work with but I am unsure if I should just buy the thunderbolt mac monitor or get a wide gamut monitor. I have heard so many people say that the wide gamut monitors just messed them up. Also, I am bit confused on the nature of monitor profiles and how they work with photoshop and lightroom. I would assume the monitor applies a profile at all times? I also don’t understand the existence of the prophoto and wide gamut profiles for the mac monitors… they clearly are not wide-gamut monitors, so how do these profiles exist for them, and why would they be useful (if you set the profile to prophoto for example, it is all washed out as expected). Are these profiles “assigning” a profile to the color? I am assuming so because if they were converting them to just a standard rgb then you wouldn’t have the faded colors (correct?).
I just am so nervous that I am going to create something that looks great in Lightroom or Photoshop but that looks awful on the browser, or worse, on a different monitor (standard monitor) and I would have no idea that it looked bad. Or, if I send something to a printer only to get a mess back.
Also, please let me know if I correct in this. If I am in photoshop and I have an untagged image (send via a friend), and lets just say it is really a prophoto image (although my friend didn’t tell me) and I say to assign the prophoto profile (upon import to photoshop). If that truly is the correct profile, the image should look correct. Now consider two scenarios from there: 1) I embed that profile in the image, if I upload that to the web (I know to be cautious, you should always use srgb for web), if the person has a color managed browser, the image would properly appear, because the browser would recognize the profile (in this case “prophoto”) and convert it to whatever it needed to be. But, if it was not a color managed browser, I run the risk that the web browser will just assign a profile, which will wash the photo out most likely, correct? Ok… and scenario 2) after I get the image from my friend and assign the prophoto profile (since that is the correct profile the image was actually created in, although it was untagged when it was sent to me), the image will look correct… BUT, is photoshop displaying the prophoto profile, or is it converting to RGB for my viewing, or is my monitor converting it to rgb for my viewing? I guess I just don’t understand how the monitor fits into all of this. You HAVE to use your monitor to see your images, and since most monitors (including my current one are standard gamut) it would make sense that you actually can’t see anything in the prophoto profile, and you are truly looking at an srgb profile since that is all your monitor can display.
Oh ya, and what benefit is the color match rgb? It seems everyone speaks of the srgb, prophoto, and argb.. but never some of the others.. so maybe I am just lost. I would even appreciate a link to some tutorials if you think those would be helpful.
I am seriously confused.. I would really appreciate the help.

I am not surprised you are confused about colour management because its a confusing subject. Luckily you own a Mac so you can get to grips with what the problems that colour management solves using the "colorSync Utility" and you will find this in Applications >> Utilities >> colorSync Utility. If you own a windows computer then I am sorry but you will be out of luck here and you should know better when you buy your next computer!! I am not sure why Apple gave us this application but it is really useful and all will help you understand Color Management.
1. Launch Applications >> Utilities >> ColorSync Utility.
2. You will see a list of "Installed ColorSync Profiles". Choose Adobe RGB 1998 which I hope you have chosen in you camera preferences.
3.You will see a 3D representation of the Adobe 1998 Colour space. This represents all the colors this colour space will hold.
4. Top left hand corner you will see a little arrow pointing down next to "Lab Plot". Click on this and a drop down menu will appear.
Choose "Hold For Comparison"
5. Now somewhere in the "Installed ColorSync Profiles" list you will find the profile for you monitor. Choose this.
6. You will now see a new colour space inside the Adobe 1998 Colour space. If you have a cheap monitor the colour space will be small
inside the Adobe 1998 profile. This means that you monitor cannot show you all the colors that are missing.
7. Now choose a printer profile say, if you use them a profile for an Epson paper or any printer profile you have and you will see another profile in the Adobe 1998 box which shows you the only colors that your printer can print. If you like choose your monitor profile then hold for comparison then the printer profile and it will clearly show the mis match between you monitor and printer.
8. Now choose SRGB and this will show you what colors a person using an average Windows monitor can see, poor people.
So this is the problem, all devises can reproduce only a certain range of colors. The adobe 1998 profile does not show all the colors our eyes can see " choose Generic Lab" profile, then "hold for comparison" then Adobe 1998 and you will see Adobe 1998 is a small profile but is a good average of our collective colour vision.
So how to solve all these missing colour problems. Well if you think of each devise, including you camera as speaking a different language from you monitor and printer then it is easy to understand that you need some sort of translator so that they all know exactly what colour is being talked bout pixel by pixel in an image. This is held in the ICC profile, but an ICC profile has o do more than this.
Say you camera can produce a specific red we will call for demo purposes "001" and your monitor cannot produce it, how do you solve this? Well it is very easy to fool our eyes. Our eyes work by comparison so if the profile maps red "001 to the nearest red that the monitor can show and then proportionally remaps all other reds to fit within the reds the monitor can show us then we actually think we are seeing a full range of reds. The problem comes if we use the wrong profile for this. The red 001 could be re mapped anywhere and could be outside what the monitor can show. Say that happens but the printer can reproduce that red 001. We would see an image on the monitor with not many reds and when we printed it we would be shocked to find reds on the print. Worst, we would see an image on the monitor without reds and would correct for this and end up with a print with heavy reds and would not be able to work out why.
So to solve this we should:
1. use the correct camera profile when we are opening "Raw" files.
2. Make sure you have the correct monitor ICC profile selected in "System Preferences" >> Displays.
3. In photoshop we should make sure that the " Edit >> colour settings " are set to Adobe 1998 for RGB.
4. If you are going to print you own photo in Photoshop go to "View >> Proof Setup >> Custom" and a box will
open. Choose the profile of your printer and paper and choose "Perceptual" for rendering intent and then " OK". If you cannot find
a profile for you printer and paper go to the printer of paper manufactures web site and download the profiles and instal
them.
5. You can now adjust the colors and contrast and photoshop will simulate how the output devise will deal with this. If you
are using an outside printing house, they will supply you with their ICC profile to download so just follow the same procedure and
choose their ICC profile and and do you colour correction.
If you have a cheap monitor you will still not get a 100% result but you will get closer. You really need a monitor that you can calibrate
regularly because generic ICC profiles are just that. They are made from the results of many monitors and so are 90% or worse accurate.
If you want to see a flag ship monitor at work go to http://www.eizo.com/global/support/db/products/software/CG223W#tab02 and go
to the bottom of the page and download the Eizo Coloredge CG223W monitor profile, instal it on your mac then open then ope
Launch Applications >> Utilities >> ColorSync Utility choose Adobe 1998 the hold and compare it with the Eizo Coloredge CG223W
profile. This is not the top of the range Eizo monitors that we use but you will see that this monitor will show most of the missing colour you monitor does not. This is actually a good tip if you are buying a monitor. Download the monitors profile and see how good it really is.
The weak link still is printing. The colors you see in RGB on a back lit RGB screen are very hard to reproduce by CYMK inks on paper. Here you really should have a profile made for your printer and chosen paper. If you don't want the expense of buying a calibrator and doing it yourself, there are on line services that will do this for you.
One final point you must remember. If you are using soft proofing in Photoshop ( "View >> Proof Setup >> Custom" as explained above), when you print you MUST choose in "Colour Handling" "Photoshop Manages Colour" and in the next step when the printing box appears
you will see a drop down box with "Layout" in it. Click on this and choose "Colour Management and choose "Off No Colour Management". If you do not do this Photoshop will manage the colour then the printer will do it again and the print will be a disaster.
This is a starting point really. Colour management is difficult but just try to remember that you need a translator between each step in the process to make it work so you have to make sure the correct profiles are being used by you camera, the program you use for opening the Raw photo files (Please don't use jpegs straight from the camera, but thats another subject), the correct monitor profile and output profile. If you don't check these it is like chinese whispers and your picture will be printed in Double Dutch!!.
Hope that helps. I am on location In Italy for a couple of months so will be unlikely to be able to reply to any questions for a while. Will try to check back and see how you are getting on. Drop me a line at [email protected] if you have any questions. Good luck.
Paul Williams

LR, dual displays, Photoshop and Win7 (solved)

I've been reading all morning and this is what I think I now know:
Photoshop will use discrete monitor profiles to properly display images on either monitor of a calibrated and profiled dual monitor setup.
Lightroom (and, apparently, Bridge according to some people) uses only the profile associated with the primary display and so the images displayed on the secondary monitor are not properly color managed.
I hope I'm incorrect about that last point and that LR 4 behaves the same as Photoshop with regard to dual monitors and color profiles. Anyone know for sure?
Edit: Never mind. I found a whacked profile for testing purposes. It appears LR and Bridge handle discrete profiles just as well as Photoshop.

This is the way I work: Don't use Lightroom in a full screen window but enlarge the Lightroom Window from the leftside of monitor one into the right-hand side monitor, but just the right panel visable on monitor 2. If you hit the F6 and F7 keys the left- and bottompanels disappear and you have allmost a full screen to work with, and the devolop panel remains on the richt-hand side on monitor 2. Just try, it works complete well at me. gr. Jaap <[email protected]> schreef in bericht news:[email protected].. > > > I cannot seem to find this information anywhere. > > > > > You probably didn't expect to find the topic in the "Lr Features requests" > forum ...<g>... > > Can anyone tell me if LR supports dual displays? That is the develop > screen > on one screen and library on the other? > > > > > The answer is 'no', but you can believe Adobe has already heard an earful. > I suspect it'll come ... eventually. > > Part of the surprise and criticism has come from me .. but I have to admit > Lr's interface to a single monitor is one of the best I've seen. > > cheerios :o)

Question. CC for Lightroom and Photoshop and, in say 5 years or so, become inactive.

What access would I have to my photos if I sign up for CC for Lightroom and Photoshop and then become only an occasional user. Will I still be able to find my photos using Lightroom? Will I be able to search for photos using keywords? Will I be able to see metadata?
Thanks.
Fritz Schafer

Dave Merchant wrote:
If you stop subscribing, the software stops working.
This aspect is indeed going to be a rude awakening for many users some day.

Photoshop and Bridge CS5 does not auto rotate SOME images.

Photoshop and Bridge CS5 does not rotate SOME of my vertical images. Most other photos taken in the same time frame and with the same camera display perfectly.
Orientation is checked for display under Preferences, Metadata, Camera Data.
There also seems to be a discrepancy how Orientation is described under Metadata for those images which DO auto rotate : sometimes it is -90 (which is how I hold the camera for verticals and which displays on most verticals) and sometimes it is "normal" even when it has auto rotated the image. I do not understand this difference.
"Normal" is also used to describe the orientation of those images which DO NOT auto rotate for viewing.
The photos in questions were taken using a Nikon D-300 which is programmed to indicate the orientation of the camera and has always been programmed to do so.
I know I can manually change the orientation but we are talking about hundreds of images (I have over 10,000 photos in all; most of which display fine).
What should I be looking for to explain and correct this issue?
I appreciate anything you can do to help. Thank you.

Thanks for responding to my query. I'll check out the thumbnail size.
It is just so curious that 90% of the verticals auto rotate and the rest do not. The ones that do not rotate are even from different years (other images in those years work fine), although all taken with the same camera.

Keyword and metadata for non-image files.

Hi, everyone.
As I have started to use Bridge to browse files in my system including those that are not image files I tried to find information on how Bridge handles the assignment of keywords and metadata to these files but couldn't find anything on Adobe's site.
Considering non-image files such as PDF's, MS Office (Word, Excel), Text, HTML, and others, how does Bridge handles the assignment of metadata and keywords ? Where are they stored ? Embedded in the files themselves or in a sidecar file similar to what happens to RAW image files ?
I've read some posts from other users about problems with this. Some report that they are able to assign keywords but these aren't maintained once the file is re-saved.
Is there a manual on Adobe's site that covers the handling of keywords and metadata in Bridge ?
TIA,
Joe

Joe,
Being a digital archivist dealing primarily with pages digitized from the turn of the 20th Century for a religious sect I am highly involved in the usage of keywords. Each page of a work, be it either a volume of a newspaper or a book, contains keywords. I do not use side-car files but instead incorporate my keywords directly into the resultant TIF file.
So I used your posting to see what the answer was. To that end I am presently working on a 1922 title, Thirty-One Years of Organized Work in Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico and Louisiana by Church of the Brethren from 1891 to 1922, that will consist of slightly over 500 pages. To test your question I placed the title of the work as a keyword. I then used Bridge's find ability. It did not work.
I forgot that Bridge converts all commas into semi-colons. And changing the colons into semi-colons still returned no results. An examination of the keywords tab showed the string broken down in to sections. Searching for the longest string showed the problem. Returning to my keyowrd string I removed all instances of the semi-colons and re-searched. This resulted in a properyl found file.
So. The longest string I have tested to date is 120 characters, the title of the work minus the commas. I suspect that Curt is correct in his assumption that it is limited by the operation system. I tested this theory by incorporating a double string (without the commas) of my book's title. This was 241 characters including the space between the duplicated title. The search was successful. A triple set of the title returned no hits.
Wayne Webb

External editor (PS) and metadata

Hello,
I have my iPhoto 5 library sorted by date and for the most part, any albums are also sorted by date. I prefer to keep iPhoto as the default editor because the red eye tool works most of the time and I like being able to see a larger picture when I double-click on a thumbnail. For other editing, I export the photo, edit it in photoshop and then reimport. I save the photo in photoshop format so I can maintain layers, etc, just in case I want to go back later and change something. The problem is that saving as photoshop rewrites any metadata so when I reimport the photo, it gets automatically sorted to the wrong place.
I would like to keep the time/date stamp in the metadata. Any ideas how I can retain that metadata, but still edit outside of iPhoto (ie in Photoshop)?
Steve

I picked at photoshop a bit more and found that the picture files retain metadata of the date shot. The issue then is that iPhoto's sort by date seems to look at the date modified instead of the date shot. This might be more of a feature request than a real question, but is it possible to have iPhoto organize it's library by date shot, then by date modified (for non-date-shot date embedded photos)?

Photoshop and Metadata handling.

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