Photoshop / and Vectors

Ok i have been seeing this topic all over and it drives me mad...
Basically Alot of people are arguing abotu this
"Can Photoshop Make a True Vector image"
Please can some one from Adobe finally Clear This Up for Users????
Ture yes or No ? please Someone its driving people mad lol
i know photoshop does have limited vector capabilities ....
But is in 100% true Vector Format?

Jim,
direct stroke or fill, as used in my example, would
generate in PostScript a vector graphic.
Not so in Photoshop - here we get a 'rasterized shape
or path' (see help texts).
Such an object can have an anti-aliased and feathered
contour.
In order to get a true vector shape it's necessary to
proceed as follows:
1. Paths > New Path
Generate a path by Pen Tool or a Shape Tool like
Circle, Retangle, Line, Custom.
2. Layer > New Layer > Solid color (or Gradient or Pattern)
For instance foreground color as solid color.
'Save as PDF' delivers a true vector graphic. A stroked
object is made by a filled closed path. E.g. a polyline
with width 5 pixels consists of a couple of thin rectangles.
Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

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Kristi,
The difference between raster and vector graphics is far more than just resolution dependence. That's just one aspect. Just as important--even moreso in textile screen printing--is that vector artwork is built from objects. This makes all the difference in the world wihen it comes to practical production needs for "logos" and for screen printing.
For example: Okay, suppose the raster image of the "logo" is oversampled enough to avoid pixelation (which is actually less of an issue with screen printing) when enlarged to the size needed for the T-shirt. Someone's making a blunderbuss statement like "you can then color separate it" isn't even beginning to think through the practical requirements of the reproduction process. Yes, you can print color separations from a raster image. But what kind of separations do you get? Assuming a CMYK or RGB raster image, you'll get halftone dots. Halftone dots are inherently problematic in screen printing. Most common screen printing assumes line art and spot color, not contone art separated to halftones.
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A similar set of considerations apply to signs (which you also mention.)
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or the layer panel in Illustrator
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Layer Styles will be pixel content – but then Raster Effects are also output as pixels in Illustrator.
Basically the Photoshop pdf will contain pixel images that have »clipping paths«.
To get an impression just save a pdf from Photoshop and then open it in Illustrator or open it with Photoshop, but set to »Images« instead of »Pages« in the Convert-dialog.
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Best method depends on the specific circumstance. But not knowing the specific circumstance, here's a method I have used for many years:
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1. Create the background image in the raster imaging program, including bleeds.
2. Set up the page in the vector drawing program or page assembly program to match, including bleeds, with guides at the trims.
3. Place a low-res FPO of the raster image in the page assembly program, on its own layer, or otherwise locked. (A mere screenshot often suffices for this.)
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5.4 If the temporary "registration objects" (the two tiny squares) are within the trim, simply select them and delete them. If they reside only in the bleed, they can be left.
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JET

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1) No. Photoshop does not create true vector files. Anyone asking for an EPS more than likely wants a true vector EPS file.
2) No way of telling without seeing the results. But it could be perfectly normal. Increased file size in an EPS does not automatically mean there is a problem.
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4) Just add a new layer and fill it with white (or whatever color). Vector EPS files have no background.
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The Photoshop effects are copies of similar effects from Photoshop. As such, they can only be applied to raster art, such as that edited in Photoshop. When you apply a Photoshop effect the Illustrator art you apply it to is rasterized in the background and the effect is applied to the rasterized version of the art. If you expand the appearance of anything with a Photoshop effect on it it will be rasterized. The other effects retain all or part of the vector art. When you expand the effect or save a PDF at least some of the original vector art will remain as vectors, although some effects (Drop Shadow, Blur, Feather, Inner Glow, etc.) to add rasterized art to the file.
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Hello,
I was not sure whether to post this in the Fireworks,
Photoshop, or Illustrator forums. The horrid design of the other
two forums, and the fact that no matter how much it was referenced
I could not find an Add Topic button (and yes, I was logged in)
brought me here.
The new replacement suite for Studio, CS3 Web Premium,
includes Photoshop and Illustrator. I know that Fireworks and
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PS: Are there Adobe created tutorials on the software suite
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Yeah, the old Adobe forums are pretty nasty, aren't they? :)
These forums are pretty slow, though -- another reason some people
prefer using the synced newsgroups all around instead.
No problems posting it here, just don't be surprised if
everyone says Fireworks is the best. ;) Actually, each tool is
unique, best at what they do.
Everyone will tell you this, but it's really true: the best
way will be to download the trials of all three and give them a
spin. What sort of stuff do you want to do? Pick something, and try
to do it in all three, you'll find out which is better for the task
pretty quickly. Don't just throw some random shapes and text
around, that won't really give you a good feel of how a real
project would go down for you. Pick a practical project and do it
in all three.
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Illustrator: Advanced vector editing application, little to
no raster editing support. Powerful but very high learning curve
for most people. Illustrator targets print work, and is rarely used
for web work, though you can. It has many print specific features
that are meaningless for the web, and sometimes confusing and
misleading for web designers.
Photoshop: Advanced raster editing program, little vector
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but a lot of efficiency deficiencies in my opinion which can make
it frustrating to many beginners. Photoshop was originally for
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features(exporting, slices, etc). However, it's duel print/web
feature set can get in the way of both when you are dealing with
one medium or the other.
Fireworks: Hybrid vector and raster editing application,
exclusively for web design(not print). Has all the basic features
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found in Photoshop. Pretty easy learning curve. Fireworks is
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many web centric features making it very focused for web design and
overall very intuitive to most web designers. For instance,
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multiple page documents, which is really useful for web design.
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:)

Fireworks Text and Vectors Blurring

I always have this issue to think about text and vector handling of adobe fireworks....Look at these images
this text on the left has beeen compressed at jpeg settings of 80...and the other one at 90...text in the first image looks blurry and if zoomed in ,,one see some dark blurry shades or something....same is the case with the borders on the red rectange ....With the 90 compression...result is much better but image size increases a lot...Also there are times when the same shades appear around the edges of rectangles etc also...
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What you're seeing has nothing to do with the article you linked to.
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Hi I recently had a problem opening CR2 files in PHotoshop cs4. I had to reinstall into a new computer, so obviously it installed the basic programme and not the updates.
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