Photoshop CC classic mode is different to CS6

I am currently using a trial of CC. I want to upgrade but the main issue putting me off is the crop tool, I have to crop a lot of images and this new method makes it more difficult.
I have always used classic mode. By default in CS6 the crop bounding box is already placed on the image. However on CC the default classic mode the crop bounding box isnt placed on the image, I have to drag it each time.
Is there a way to have the box on the image by default?
The only way I can see is to turn off classic mode but then theres the issue of having to use the annoying method of moving the canvas rather than the crop box and I dont want to use that
CC classic crop
CS6 classic crop

Can anyone from Adobe help? I would love to try the Photoshop CC, but have had this problem each time I installed it, so I just use the Photoshop CS6. I understand there are different features in CC and would love to try them. Please help me solve this frustrating problem! Thanks.

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I don’t understand all you’ve written.
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Product name: Fireworks
Product Version: 11.1.0.205 (CS5.1)/12.0.0.236 (CS6)
Product Language: English
Your operating system: OS 10.6.8
******BUG******
Concise problem statement: Channel-based blend modes (Red, Green, and Blue) are broken in Fireworks CS6 and CS5.
Steps to reproduce bug:
1. Set canvas to black.
2. Draw 3 white rectangles of any size.
3. Set blend mode of 1st rectangle to Red, 2nd rectangle to Green, 3rd rectangle to Blue.
Results: 1st rectangle appears Green (instead of Red). 2nd rectangle appears Red (instead of Green). 3rd rectangle becomes invisible (instead of Blue).
Expected results: Each rectangle should appear to be the same color as its applied blend mode, as the composite adopts the selected channel of the object and combines it with the remaining channels of the canvas (or objects) below.
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For more information about this bug, please see the following post: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1209542

I haven't noticed changes in the way the blend modes work.
It's possible you have a specific problem on your system, or you have an image with a color space that uses a different gamma than you're used to working in. In the latter case, the math could be the same but if the representation of the colors is changed (which is what the color profile defines) you could get a radically different looking result.
Maybe it would be useful to post some screen grabs, and ideally it would be great if you could post a copy of a PSD file that demonstrates the problem (i.e., looks different when opened in an older version of Photoshop than in Photoshop CS6).
EDIT: Looks like I was too late in answering; I was distracted after typing and before posting.
-Noel

I NEED CLASSIC MODE AND I CANT UPGRADE!! HELP!!

So i just bought a new mac mini about a week ago and I am very excited to start using my copy of adobe photoshop cs2 again, but i have a copy of adobe photoshop 6.0 and i use and upgrade to go to photoshop cs2. I just found out that i cant install photoshop 6 because mac no longer supports classic mode! so how do i get classic mode with out having to downgrade to mac OS 9? is there another way around this?? I don't want to have to buy a 600 dollar copy of photoshop just to use the copy's i already have!

jflanders128 wrote:
...I don't want to have to buy a 600 dollar copy of photoshop just to use the copy's i already have!
You may want to learn about upgrade pricing. It is unlikely that you paid $600 to upgrade Photoshop 6 to CS2.
Beware that CS2 was written for PPC processors. You have an Intel processor and Apple hints that a coming Lion may not support PPC apps. You might want to upgrade to CS5 while you have the opportunity before you fall out of the upgrade window (when CS6 arrives). CS5 is written for Intel.

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When I activate the crop tool (I realize it's been rewritten.. not sure why), I see my current background color in place of what is visible in my current workspace. Ultimately, completing the crop command, it crops as expected, and the background color vanishes. What benefit is this? It adds confusion and makes me a bit confused as to what the final crop result will be. Why was this changed? Why am I seeing my current background color? It makes no sense. I've been using Photoshop for nearly 20 years and this is just dumb. Can anyone explain?
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Yeah, that was pretty vague. I was in a creative mode and was rudely interrupted by this weird change, so I wasn't focused on a clear post. The lack of direct email support to Adobe frustrated me also. Alas..
Bascially, I have a layer with some image data, and transparent regions:
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Apple made G4/500DP, 533DP, 800DP etc. And there are still cpu upgrades for pre-MDD models. The 1.42DP was the fastest made at the time, but not the only one, and not without some heat and noise issues.
http://www.welovemacs.com/appoma.html
http://www.welovemacs.com/g5machines.html
http://www.welovemacs.com/m96.html
http://www.welovemacs.com/g41gh80gb.html
One report showed Classic running on G5.
http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/G5/g5firstimpressions.html
And for some applications, they aren't written to, or benefit from running on multiple cores. And Classic is probably just such an application. OS 9 was not known for being efficient at giving foreground and background apps more cpu cycles.
Comparing cpu performance:
Finding a way to run Classic efficiently on a current 2.8GHz 8-core Mac Pro?
http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/08/mac-pro-3ghz-benchmarked/
http://www.geekpatrol.ca/2006/12/eight-core-mac-pro-benchmarks/
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http://www.barefeats.com/imp02.html
http://www.macworld.com/article/133467/2008/05/imaccomparison.html
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I find the new crop tool too time consuming, and it is not very user friendly. I like that you can turn on the classice mode, but each time I select the crop tool the classic mode has been turned off. Would you please make it possible to turn on classic mode and leave it on.
In my opinion the crop tool worked great, just because you can change something does not always mean that it is an improvement. I perfer to move the crop tool around on the image, not the image behind the crop tool.
Thank you for giving us the classic mode, please never take that away.

I hear you. The setting should be sticking for you, so that's a problem - though it may be a problem on your own system. I see all the settings stay set. Try this:
With no document open, choose the Crop tool.
Click the gear and make the settings you want.
Choose Window - Workspace - New Workspace, and name it something you like (I call mine Noels).
Now Quit Photoshop
Do you see your settings stick now, next time you open Photoshop?
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I have been running various applications that require the Classic mode for a couple years now with no problems. Today, though, I noticed that the audio from all such applications now exhibit a slow-motion sound. I tried reloading Classic but that didn't help. Applications running under OSX are still running fine. Any idea on what the problem is?

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There is something that I have been doing new lately that might relate to this new problem. I am trying to run a hydrodynamic model on my computer that is written in FORTRAN. I successfully compiled the modules (using gfortran) and ran the test cases. I am now trying to create my own case to run. In so doing I must create a pointer from the directory in which the program is run to the directory in which the input data is read and the output results are written (following the test case examples). At first I tried creating an alias for the directory but that didn't work. Next I tried a symbolic link using the following in Terminal:
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This created a folder that looked just like the alias that I tried at first, except this worked! However, it still has some different characteristics from the examples in the supplied test cases. Could I be messing things up using that link? It seems to be the new thing that I have done lately.

Can't run software in Classic mode

Boy, I've tried to fix this myself and just can't. I have a new out-of-the-box Mac Mini with a generic USB keyboard. I've got some old Mac software (really old) which is really a main reason I bought the mini. I can't get Classic to run because it's not already installed. I have the OS9.2.1 disc, but I can't boot from the CD (I tried pressing C on bootup -- either my Mac can't boot from CD or my keyboard doesn't communicate properly). When I try to run the OS9 installer to get Classic to work, I get the hair-pulling error message that I need to run the installer in Classic
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We just upgraded to WLS 6.1 and in the docs, http://e-docs.bea.com/wls/docs61/perform/JVMTuning.html
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-classic asks the JVM to use the old non-HotSpot JVM. First off, why do
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In WLS 5.1 server, there was an option to run under classic mode in a UNIX environment.
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it mentions classic mode available in NT but not in UNIX.
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the new option is.
Elizabeth

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Hello everyone, I had a few thoughts on running Classic mode on intel macs which I wanted to share.
Now I know little about software design, but maybe someone who does could tell me if these ideas I had are at all feasible:
Now in the first place I now that, technically, "Classic" mode went out back with Tiger because of the switch to Intel chips. Switching to Intel, Rosetta was required to "translate" pre and non-intel OSX applications, with the exception of Classic since Rosetta does not translate deep enough into the system to do that. As a substitute to Classic, SheepShaver, Basilisk II, etc. can be used to emulate OS 9, but these are very lousy applications compared to Classic mode.
Is there ANY way whatsoever Rosetta could be edited, or Classic itself so that it will work on intel macs?
(that is, with the exception of 10.7+ systems since these don't even use Rosetta)
I know if Classic was placed on an intel mac, it would tell you to download Rosetta, but from there will crashes because frameworks in the system's library does not support (or was not designed for) Classic...
So what I wanted to know:
What if an old, Classic supporting PowerPC system's library folder was added to an Intel computer in a location other then that computers real system folder (as not to confuse the real, current system) and Classic manually edited so that it would search for the needed frameworks/etc files in the new location? Would it work?
Since, after all, it now has the correct "system" to run on (which before Rosetta could not convert), do you think there's any chance it would work and function properly?
Now beyond that, I wouldn't know the actual results (or consequences). I suppose the main problem to consider would be that the the PPC's system frameworks/etc wouldn't work at all on an Intel (which leads us back to Rosetta lacking in this area), and since those frameworks will be searching for other files in the system library (which would bring them to the current, Intel system) the same results would happen: crash! Or maybe sensing the system was mixed up, one or more files would try to "fix" themselves, and in turn destroy the computer's real system.
So, would it be worth a try?
I'd love to hear any other thoughts on running Classic on Intel...

There is an "easier" way to acquire SheepShaver called Chubby Bunny and I have put together a post with some safe links that are relevant to this topic. I see that emaculation is one of them.
Why do you need OS 9 greater than 9.04?
Feel free to let me know if you need any more help.
With the newer Intel Macs, you have to run a Classic emulator such as SheepShaver, which requires you to extract the Mac ROMs from your older Classic Mac and then install Mac OS 9.
A related program is Chubby Bunny, which comes bundled with all of that included.
More information on SheepShaver:
http://www.emaculation.com/doku.php/sheepshaver_mac_os_x_setup
and
http://www.everymac.com/mac-answers/mac-os-9-classic-support-faq/run-macos-9-on- intel-macs.html
and more information about Chubby Bunny:
http://www.macwindows.com/OS9_on_Intel_Mac.html#092408b
and
http://hackthemac.blogspot.co.uk/2008/08/chubby-bunny-old-virtual-machine.html
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