Photoshop CS2 vs. Elements 3.0

Me gustaria que alguien expusiera las grandes diferencias entre ambos, o bien, las limitaciones de Elements respecto de CS2. Me gustaria saber esto porque la diferencia de precios es enorme y ahora que tengo que adquirir un software estoy pensandola.
Como referencia he de decir que he usado photoshop CS con un amigo, mientras que Elements no lo conozco.
Saludos y gracias.

Creo que una manera mas simple de explicarte las diferencias es que Photoshop CS2 es un programa profesional y Elements es un programa mas que nada de organizacion, de retoque mas automatizado, con el podras tener mucho control de tus arhcivos de una manera mas de "hogar" por asi decirlo. Desde ya, si querés un programa para trabajar de manera profesional, Photoshop es el ideal y mas utilizado del mundo, pero si eres un usuario "normal" sacarás mas provecho del elements, con el cual no necesitaras grandes conocimientos para poder usarlo.
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Comparing Photoshop CS2 and Elements 4.0

[If this has already been addressed in this forum, I apologize in advance, but I haven't seen it, at least not addressing the questions below. I also apologize to those who read this on both the Photoshop and the Elements sites.]
For years I've been taking point-and-shoot digital pictures and processing them through one or another photo software doing nothing more than removing red-eye and cropping. I've recently decided to take up digital photography as a hobby and plan to buy a good digital SLR as well as good photoprinter. My method has been to read before buying (and to ask questions on sites such as this one). When I finally start shooting and editing, I want to learn software that I'll stick with, rather than have to relearn, and although I don't have to watch every penny, I don't want to waste money. So here's my question? Should I start with Elements 4.0 or go right to CS2. I may never need CS2, as I'm not planning a career or even a full-time avocation, but I might. So here's the sort of thing I'm confident I will want to do: manipulate RAW photos before processing them in Photoshop; work on differentially changing the exposures within a photo (e.g., adjusting the brightness of the foreground and background differentially, as I've seen talked about in some articles); if I get lucky enough to produce a worthwhile image, enlarge it (using Genuine Fractal's or the like) to make a frame-size print; these are just examples. My understanding is that all of this is possible in Elements, but may be easier in CS2. Also, there may be more advanced features that I'll want to use in CS2 but don't don't yet recognize. Finally, cutting the other way, I don't plan to abandon the point-and-shoot red-eye elimination (and skin tone correction) process for snapshots of the kids to post and send to family etc. So I would welcome any advice on whether I should start with Elements (and maybe stay there forever), go right to CS2, or get both using Elements for snapshots and CS2 for hobby work. (By the way, I've checked the Adobe site, which offers a comparison chart, but it was too imprecise to be useful.)
Thanks in advance.

Barry
I'm a year and a half into pse3. My wife gave it to me shortly after I bought a G6, my first digicam. I am still learning all the features of the G6 (after using Olympus OM 2N for years), so learning the camera and software keeps me going.
As to PSE I find it an incredible piece of software that continues to amaze me with so many features to tweak photos. I have bought 3 books; Barb's Missing Manual, Scott Kelby's book and PSE for Dummies. I find that as I shoot more photos and re-read these books as well as the forums I keep coming up with ideas to tackle.
I am retired so I have lots of time to fiddle (but I have lots of other stuff on the go). I'm now just getting into understanding adjustment layers (although I have been using them without getting in to what is actually happening)and I have been importing a few PS actions into PSE (although I think you cannot do this with PSE4)
Every once and a while I think about PS CS2; I could see myself getting it but there's no hurry as there's still lots to learn in pse and the results I get continue to bring on new and better results.
The idea of buyinhg a tablet is a good one if you get PSE with it and you can use a tablet right off the bat. I'm also looking at tablets but to get it at the front end along with the G6 and PSE would have been too overwhelming for me....not to mention being stuck behind a computer for 25 hours/day
You will also find a ton of resources on the web for PSE, enough to keep you happy for a long time.
I am told that CS2 has a much steeper learning curve, but if you run with PSE first much of it is applicable
And then there are stand a lone shows for slides such as ProShow which goes beyond the slideshow in PSE. ProShow together with PSE is awesome.
Happy hunting
Neil

Upgrade from CS2 to elements 8

Can i upgrade my Photoshop CS2 to elements 8 on line?

Most people would not consider PSE an upgrade to PS. Photoshop is the 747 of image processors, while PSE is more like a Piper Cub. The usual upgrade would be to PS CS5, not Elements. Also CS2 is the last version that qualifies for the PS upgrade pricing this time, which means you'll probably lose that if you wait for CS6.
In any case, yes, you can buy PSE online, but there isn't really an "upgrade" version, just a rebate. If you shop around you can usually beat Adobe's price on PSE at places like amazon or your local big box store, if that's really what you want to do.

Using Elements Organizer with Photoshop CS2

I have grown comfortable with Photoshop Elements integrated organizer and have upgraded to Photoshop CS2 and instead of using the CS2 file manager would like to continue to use the Elements organizer. The problem Im having is when I edit a photo in CS2 and save it, I have to go find the edited file in Elements organizer and add it manually to the organizer, where if I edit in Photoshop elements, the file is automatically added in the organizer for me. Is there something I can do to make this more automatic when I edit in CS2?
Thanks
Joe

Joe,
I have all the current updates for both products, but other than that, I've
done nothing special.
For regular file types (jpg, psd, etc.) the handshake goes without a hitch.
Raw files act a little quirky. Raw files do get passed from Organizer to
CS2 and they open in camera raw. But, I've found that if you don't press
the "open" button in camera raw, CS2 will give you an error message that
says it couldn't receive the document from "Photoshop Album". Click ok on
that message and you get another that says it could not complete the update
from the Photoshop Album command because of a program error.
If, I press "open" in the camera raw dialog to edit in CS2, all is fine. If
I make changes and save, Organizer pops up a message saying I've returned to
Organizer and gives me an option to add to a version set or keep it
separate. It adds to the version set fine. But, since I only selected save
in CS2, it remains open there. If I make further edits to the open file and
save, I have to manually update the organizer thumbnail. On the other hand,
if I just click close and respond yes to the "save changes" message , I get
two popups -- one labled "edited file from Photoshop" and "new edited file".
If I click "ok" on both, I get two entries in the version set. (I've done
that with a regular file and I only get one popup.)
So, there you have it. Ordinary files work as expected. But, raw is quirky.
Raw files work fine if you continue to open in CS2 from camera raw and only
save once.
Bob

Macbook Pro and Photoshop CS2, Photoshop Elements 4.0?

I own CS2 for the Mac and use it on my G5. I've already gone through the attempts to install it on my MacBook Pro and had the setup program hang. Ok, so I have to wait for a fix from someone to get that going.
Does anyone know if PS Elements 4.0 for the Mac will successfully install and run on the MB Pro? If so, that's good enough for what I want to do right now and I'll go get one. However, if it's going to produce the same hang in setup, I'm no further ahead with that solution.
I'm open to ideas.. thanks.
Dennis

I have one of the new 17" MBPs. Photoshop CS2 and pretty much the rest of my Adobe CS2 package installed without any problems, but none of them will run. I keep getting the "This program unexpectedly terminated" message. I have the Quicktime update. In fact, as I wrote this post, Quicktime just "Unexpectedly" quit. Am I doing something wrong, or is there something very amiss with the new MBPs?
MBP
MBP

DVD-Vorlage für Premiere Elements 2.0 mit Photoshop CS2

Hallo,
mit Photoshop Elements kann man ja eine DVD-Vorlage für Premiere Elements anlegen (im Editor) In Photoshop CS2 konnte ich hierzu nichts finden.
Kann man mit PS CS2 sowas auch machen?
Danke
tc

Hallo Thomas,
in meinen PE 1 Zeiten hab ich das so gemacht, dass ich die Originalvorlage umbenannt habe und einer nach meinen Vorstellungen bearbeiteten Kopie den Originalnamen überlassen habe. Dann lädt das Programm meine Datei als Original.
Sorry, quick and dirty, aber funktioniert.
Grüße
Matthias
www.wertvolleswissen.de

Photoshop CS2 obsolete with an Olympus E-3

I just received my new Olympus E-3 this week and it is a very impressive professional DSLR camera. I have to say that I am exceedingly disappointed with Adobe right now as it looks like they are no longer supporting Photoshop CS2 even though it is only one revision old. With the latest updates I can use their digital negative converter (which I wish more camera manufacturers would support) and my Photoshop Elements 5.0, including Camera RAW, works with the E-3 ORF/RAW files. Photoshop CS2 apparently has no plug-in for it, the latest Camera RAW doesn't work in it or in Bridge, and it no longer accepts new .dng files sent to it from PSE5. It is now largely useless to me as I can't used it until the photos are degraded .jpg's.
I am on Vista, so is their anything I need to do, or is my analysis above correct? CS-2 over CS had enough to make me upgrade, CS-3 over CS-2 didn't.

Nobody likes the fact that to get the latest raw support for the latest
camera (without hoop jumping) you have to upgrade Photoshop. Most of don't
think it is fair. However, there are some things to keep in mind.
1. Each new major release of Photoshop brings massive updates to ACR. These
updates would not be an easy or really cost effective thing to do for older
versions of ACR.
2. It is very likely that updates to ACR are not solely in ACR itself. I
would imagine that some changes have to be made to Photoshop to. This means
they couldn't update ACR to work with CS2 because CS2 is lacking things that
would be needed. Things that are only in CS3.
3. Even if Adobe charged $19.95 for the ACR upgrade for Photoshop CS2 if
they couldn't bring it inline with CS3's ACR but only could add support for
new cameras people would still complain.
4. There is a work around, download the latest DNG converter program, it is
free and convert your raw images to DNG. This is in my book a good thing
anyways. Just as soon as DNG becomes and ISO standard it will be the safest
raw format available. In other words it will be the most future proof raw
format we will have. Once your files are converted to DNG you can then load
them in to the ACR that comes with CS2.
Myself, I think the mistake Adobe made was not making the camera support a
plug-in for ACR. By doing this they could have simply updated ACR as they
wished giving you the new version with each new version of Photoshop, but
allowed people with the old versions to use new cameras because you would
only have to download new profile plug-ins for new cameras. I don't see new
cameras as being a major reason to upgrade ACR. I see the new features and
improvements made to each new version of ACR more of an upgrade draw than
new camera support. I think Adobe would have lost very little income by
designing ACR to support new cameras by doing plug-ins. I would still have
upgraded from CS2 to CS3.
Of course there is also the new upgrade policy. Photoshop 7 is the oldest
version you can now use to upgrade to Photoshop CS3. If you have a version
older than 7 you have to buy the full Photoshop package, you can't upgrade.
When Photoshop CS4 comes out then CS1 will be the oldest version you can use
to upgrade. So sooner rather than later unless you like to buy full packages
instead of upgrades one is going to have to upgrade anyways.
Myself I would use the DNG converter now and then upgrade Photoshop when CS4
comes out. I figure CS4 is less than a year away.

HELP: I was told to uninstall my photoshop cs2 and now I can't reinstall it- also cannot access my adobe account and there is NO CS in the US anymore.

I was told to uninstall my photoshop cs2. My macbook pro went in for repair and I had to restore it from a backup, after which I got this error message when trying to use photoshop: licensing for this product has stopped working: restart computer and try again blah blah blah error code 150:30. I stupidily uninstalled the program at the advice of someone in adobe CS in India and now I can't get it to reinstall. Can anyone please help me? I'm not interested in purchasing a newer versioin of adobe cs photoshop or cloud or ANY of that. I'm quite happy with this one, I just want it back on my laptop. I also run this on my desktop. I also wasn't able to log into my original account due to being told I had to change my password. An email was sent to the email associated with that account but I no longer have access to that email. I'm VERY DISSAPOINTED WITH ADOBE AND THEIR LOUSY SUPPORT. We spend hundreds and this is the support we get???
I oringinalyspent around $4-500 on this program and I would like someone to tell me how to get this back up and running without licensing issues and spending thousands more please. The original CS agent I spoke with after waiting on hold for over 1/2 hour was immediately rude to me and told me I was tyring to understand something, when in actuality he was not listening to a word I told him about my issues. I'm beyond disappointed, I'm DISGUSTED. I really wish I hadn't uninstalled this because I now fear, as I suspected, that I may never be able to get it back and I will be FORCED to spend more money. This is ridiculous. I wish I had never sent my laptop out for repair. I took them several days to figure out that bulb and some wires were damaged and there was no real reason to wipe my whole computer. I wouldn't be dealing with any of this if I hadn't and the original problem is still there, when I open the laptop, the screen blanks out and it takes a minute or so to start functioning, but that is another matter.
I have tried to access the 24 hour chat again but that is not working anymore either.
Can someone please help me? Thanks!

you have a ps cs4 license for mac and you have some way of finding your serial number.
if yes, download an install the installation file. if you already have the installation file, what is its name and file extension? (eg, if it's one file, it should be a dmg file.)
if you need the installation file,
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How do I install Photoshop CS2 on a new Mac desktop ?

I have not used my Photoshop CS2 for a few years; I used to have it on my PC and It loaded and worked fine- But I had a lot of trouble between PC and viruses, and so now, I have chosen an Apple Mac desktop. I have had it for about a week now. The prolem however is that the programme does not seam to load , do I need to go back to using a PC ? Or is there a way that I can install CS2 on my new Mac? When I put the disc in the Drive the CS2Disk appears; when I double click on it ; the window showing the folders opens; and that is where I am stuck. ps the software is original. I am A pensioner and a Fine artist can you help me. also the photoshop logo does not appear on the desktop.

No way.
a) PC software doesn't run on Macs.
b) that being the case, you would have to switch paltforms but
c) Adobe only offers it for current versions (Order an Adobe product platform swap or language swap)
d) even if it were possible, CS2 doesn't run on any modern Mac because Apple have long removed PPC code as used by that version
This is not going anywhere for a number of reasons as you see. You will have to come up with something else like getting a current version of PS Elements, signing up for Creative Cloud or using free software like GIMP, if you realyl don't want to spend any money.
Mylenium

Can't Access Supplementary Editing with Photoshop CS2

I was a user of Elements3 for a long time mainly because I liked that the catalog's "edit with" feature worked with Photoshop CS2. I recently got a new PC with Windows 7 so I could not install PSE 3. I downloaded PSE9 trial version to see if all worked well and it was worth the purchase. The problem I am having is that I cannot seem to get my Photoshop (CS2) as a supplementary editing option. When I try it tells me this
But if I don't add it like it says, there is not a Photoshop option when I go to the "edit with" list.
I don't know if this is right, but from the little bit of research I did it thinks I am trying to add Elements again because the Elements program exe file starts with "Photoshop" so when it reads the Photoshop.exe file it thinks it is a duplicate. I tried creating a copy and renaming the Photoshop.exe file which almost worked. Elements allowed me to select it as a supplementary editor and afterwards Photoshop was an edit option. I tried to edit a photo with it and while the program opened, it then got an error message and ended up closing before the photo came up for editing.
Can someone give me a fix to use Photoshop as my editor. I really liked how I could edit in PS and keep a neat catalog of edited versions with the Elements versioning capability. If I can't do it I probably won't end up purchasing the PSE9 program.

I have the identical problem trying to use Photoshop as the editor from Photoshop Elements 11.
Please can some-one let us in on the secret of how to get PSE to recognise that a full Photoshop is installed.
Thanks
Dave

Significant problem saving files in Photoshop CS2

I am running Photoshop CS2, with Windows Vista Home Edition.
My problem is a new one, as Ive been running the program the exact same way since I bought it several years ago. Two weeks ago I bought an Intuos 3 tablet, and installed the software that came with it (including Corel Painter Essentials), and updated the drivers for Vista. After doing so, the appearance of my save menu changed in photoshop, but everything still ran properly.
Yesterday when I tried to save a file that I had opened and modified (a photoshop file, not .jpg), Photoshop stopped responding. I did not receive any error message, the program simply froze, and refused to respond. I gave it more than five minutes before shutting it down. This has happened three consecutive times. I can save a new file, (using the save as function), but anytime I attempt to merely save (either using control-s, or by selecting save from the file menu) Photoshop stops responding.
I have not edited any preferences or settings.
I have lost a great deal of time and work over this, and am beyond frustrated. Any help would be very truly appreciated!

Thanks for the suggestions guys, unfortunately I'm still experiencing the same problem.
There was nothing off screen, escape did not help. I don't usually get a box when all I'm doing is saving (unlike using 'save as'). I haven't had any messages from Windows Error Reporting, and don't see anything in the System Event Log, but don't know exactly what I'm looking for as I don't access it regularly.
I've ordered the CS4 upgrade. Should arrive this week.
My new question is, should I uninstall my current configuration, install Photoshop Elements 6.0 (which came with my tablet), and upgrade that? Or should I leave it as is, and install the upgrade on my current configuration?
Will CS4 fix my problem? Or will the problem merely transfer onto it?
Any help greatly appreciated!

Photoshop CS2: Zwei Fragen

Hallo *!
Ich habe seit gestern auf CS2 upgegradet. Es haben sich für mich zwei Fragen ergeben:
1) Ich wollte die aktuelle Camera Raw Version einstellen und bin, wie auf der Adobe HP beschrieben, vorgegangen. Entgegen der Beschreibung befand sich in meinem CS2 Installationsverzeichnis (und auch in KEINEM der Unterordner, wie bspw. "Adobe Photoshop CS2\Zusatzmodule\Dateiformat") eine Datei "Camera Raw.8bi". Ich habe die neue Version dennoch in das Verzeichnis "Adobe Photoshop CS2\Zusatzmodule\Dateiformat" kopiert. Um zu überprüfen, ob dennoch alles funktioniert hat, habe ich dann unter "Hilfe->Über Zusatzmodul->Camera Raw" nachschauen wollen. Hier habe ich jetzt zwei Einträge "Camera Raw". Woher weiss ich, welches CS2 jetzt verwendet?
2) Ich hatte zuvor neben Photoshop CS auch Photoshop Elements 3.0. Da gab es das angenehme Feature, dass sobald ich meine Canon 20D angesteckt habe, ein Importfenster erschien, dass sowohl JPG- als auch CR2-Dateien angezeigt hat und diese nach PS Elements importiert hat. Gibt es so eine Funktionalität in PS CS2 oder irgeneine andere Möglichkeit direkt auf die CR2-Dateien meiner Kamera zuzugreifen (der Import über WIA hat nicht funktioniert - CR2 wird nicht angezeigt)?
Danke für etwaige Hilfe
Ulrich Scheper

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Photoshop CS2 vs Lightroom 2

I'm using Photoshop CS2. Is Lightroom just a packaged product for the photographer demographic? Can I do everything LightRoom can do within my Photoshop CS2? What are the advantages of having it?

Creo que una manera mas simple de explicarte las diferencias es que Photoshop CS2 es un programa profesional y Elements es un programa mas que nada de organizacion, de retoque mas automatizado, con el podras tener mucho control de tus arhcivos de una manera mas de "hogar" por asi decirlo. Desde ya, si querés un programa para trabajar de manera profesional, Photoshop es el ideal y mas utilizado del mundo, pero si eres un usuario "normal" sacarás mas provecho del elements, con el cual no necesitaras grandes conocimientos para poder usarlo.
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Problem using Epson V600 scanner in Photoshop CS2

The scanner opens its dialogue window, no problem. I can do a Preview scan without any problem, but when I request a Scan, this progresses properly, but the resultant scan is presented in the Photoshop workspace on top of the Epson dialogue windows. At this point all of the Photoshop features are greyed-out so that I cannot move the scanned image to close down the Epson windows. The only way I can make progress is to minimise Photoshop, close the Epson windows and then maximise Photoshop again.
Previously I had an Epson Perfection 3200 scanner which always maintained the scanner windows on top - and so could be closed with a click.
Is there any way to keep the Epson Scanner windows on-top and automatically send the scanned image to the back on Photoshop CS2? This should be simple, but I have tried most things.

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After updating iPhoto to 9.2 Photoshop CS2 doesn't display the photo I have opened. The photo shows in the Navigator on the side panel, but not on the screen. MFF

After updating iPhoto to 9.2, Photoshop CS2 doesn't display the photo on the desktop screen, even though the image is shown in the Navigator pallet well to the right.

No, that is the problem. I don't see how it should be, but that is what happened after I did the upgrade, which was for iPhoto 9.2. The upgrade then required that the Library be upgraded. Then CS2 stopped showing the photo when I opened CS2. Maybe there was a system upgrade for the whole system, that went along with 9.2. Before the upgrade CS2 worked. I even tried photos that I had on backup disks, and they wouldn't show in CS2 even though I had draged them to the PS icon in the dock. These photos were not on my computer when the Library was upgraded. I even tried photos fresh from the camera. Elements 9 does work to open the photos.

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